There was an old man with a table selling a pre-ban Norinco AK at a gun show I was at. The AK had the extra hole with a rivet through it. I explained to the guy that the gun was illegal due to this, but I think he thought I was trying to scare him into lowering the price and letting me have it or something because he looked at me like I was an asshole and basically told me to get lost. Oh well.

Another time I was at a gun shop and they were selling a Tec-9 with a factory VFG on it. I explained to the owner that it was legally considered an AOW, but he told me that "it came like that from the factory" and wasn't listening, so I just said "Alright" and walked off.

I was at a pawn shop I used to frequent and they had a GSG-5 .22 pistol that they bought off a customer. One of the managers thought it'd be a good idea to order a collapsible stock and install it to help it sell better. I came in and saw it and went straight to the lead manager that I knew pretty well and discreetly informed him that it was legally an SBR. He took my advice and removed the stock and gave me a couple boxes of ammo for free. They were about to have ATF inspectors come and audit them that day since they had just moved to a new location following a fire and were still trying to get all the firearms accounted for. He dodged a bullet.

*edit* I went to a gun show in Columbus right after I graduated from jump school and there was a guy walking around trying to sell a Streetsweeper. He was actually asking a really fair price for it and I've always wanted one, but he had no papers and no idea what the NFA even was when I tried to inform him.

I shot a Jager m16 .22 from a relative who acquired it through a trade and never fired it or for all I know never looked at it. Through further inspection on my part the sear had been filed down to allow it to flop back and fourth. So I took it out to shoot behind the house and sure enough it was a full auto, had a crazy rate of fire. I had a little fun and took it back to him and told him he needs to check on his firearm trades from now on. He just took it to a local gun shop and had a new sear made and it was good to go after that. But if he would've traded it or been caught with it before it was repaired he would still be in prison probably.

Does the Jager have normal AR parts? I thought their .22 was a good bit different then a normal AR.

Was at a show 2 years ago in GA. Talking to an older guy who served in Vietnam. Told me he had his rifle to sell. Brought it in wrapped in a blanket. Turns out is was his M16 Colt he brought back in pieces. Nice Colt M16 receiver complete. No paperwork so I thanked him but told him I had to pass on it without the paperwork as I wiped off my prints.

Guy in my dad's old neighborhood modified some semi auto m1a's to full auto, pretty sure he didn't register them(they were modified before the 86 ban). I've seen people assemble ar-15 sbrs without paperwork as well.

I've also seen a few street sweepers which are illegal in Va(pretty much the only thing we ban).

Noob question, Is a vfg on a S&W M&P 15-22p pistol considered AOW or illegal in any way? My dads buddy has one, and if he's unintentionally got something that could get him fined I'd like to let him know

Yes, that would make it an AOW.

A. There is lots of widows like that. I wish we could get another amnesty. There are thousands of them that could be registered.

B. Its NJ. I'd expect nothing less.

In 2004 the CA DOJ dropped off several firarms in my store.
One of the firarms was a rossi single shot .357. Only this Rossi was cut down to a pistol.
The famous DOJ guy sets this thng on my counter and I push it back to him and ask "WTF?"
He says 'I't's OK it came back registered as a pistol." I look it up for him and show him it was never made as a pistol.
He shrugs and says it's mine now.

I left the evidence tag on it and showed it to every ATF inspector that stepped foot in my store for more than 3 years before I could get someone to take the damn thing away.

Had two AR-15's come in that had extra parts, and such... Not a good look with no paperwork.

Some of these stories are really just ignorant gun owners who didn't take the time to read and understand the NFA laws. Ignorance is not an excuse but certainly the fact that they are harmless 'criminals' has to weigh in an ATF decision.

How strict is the ATF towards these people vs real bad guys intentionally converting a large number of machineguns?

I somehow doubt that granny with an unregistered bring back SMG will spend time in prison.

what year was this? wow!!! really like to know where he get that one from. you could have had him cut it into a parts kit, i mean that really sucks but at least you get a real semi russian AK in the end. minus the FA parts though

also just found this.....
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read about something like that.... Doc in Cali brought back a few of them and was ok till his loud mouth GF was at a gun shop or something running her suck about all the AKs he had. he is in jail now.