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 CS223
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Posted: 5/18/2007 7:13:46 PM
[Last Edit: 6/21/2007 3:54:32 PM by tony_k]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Apparently when ATF Updated the Form 1, they put their approval signature block on the back. This of course could allow someone to xerox that back of the form with falsified information on the front of the form. The electronic version of the From 4 on the ATF website is also a SNAFU. I have contacted them about it, they replied weeks ago but the wheels of .gov grind incredibly slow. --C UPDATE The Electronic version of the Form 1 that has the DC addy should be fine since it has the ATF approval signature on the front, the front signature block is the key. The new printed versions do have the WV addy. Continue to use the electronic version located at this link. www.titleii.com/pdf/010205-Form1.pdf Do not use the html to pdf version. |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 9:12:57 PM
I just found out that the Form 1 mailed to your door from the ATF is also backordered.
Seems to me if they could just fix the link things would be fine. Guess that's the ATF.  |
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ProfGAB101
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Posted: 5/18/2007 9:22:12 PM
They just don't want to sell any stamps.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 9:58:45 PM
[Last Edit: 5/18/2007 10:01:00 PM by SMPrider112]
Has anyone used the old Form 1 with the old address and had it go through? or is it sort of hit and miss?
Also is there anyway to edit the old form to reflect the new address?? |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 10:15:23 PM
Hit and miss. It depends on the examiner.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 10:55:49 PM
My most recent From 4 which was approved April 19th had the Chicago address on it. Most recent From 1 approved March 5th had the Washington DC address on it.
It's hard for me to believe(well maybe not to hard) that they would be kicking back forms where all the information is the same except for the address. Pure silly assed bureaucracy if that is the case, which I'm sure it is. How hard could it be to put the correct forms up on the website? |
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CS223
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Posted: 5/19/2007 7:16:51 AM
I know of two at this moment bounced for that very reason.
Apparently it's pretty difficult, I contacted them over a month ago about the problems with the on-line Form 4, it took them a couple of weeks to reply. Probably take them a year to fix it.  Also, the owner of the TitleII.com website had been on their case. |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 3:03:28 PM
[Last Edit: 5/19/2007 3:10:27 PM by johnnyrebel]
so the form 1 i sent off yesterday will probally bounce back, what can i do to get it going again? resubmit it? can i just scan a old approved form 1 and remove the info and add for the new info? print it and be GTG?
also the form 1 atf E-form 1 (5320.1) was revised july 2004, good until 7-31-2007 does this have any complications to the other form 1's that were approved in my name? |
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M4-TUNA
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Posted: 5/19/2007 6:17:53 PM
Damn this is just great. I have a $480 Ak receiver just waiting on it to become a $680 AK receiver.
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JPratt06
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Posted: 5/19/2007 7:04:09 PM
Anyone know when they'll have the new version online?
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Posted: 5/19/2007 8:45:49 PM
The version with the signature box on the back, is "probably" going to become the permanent version, due to some new software ATF is using for their "E-Forms".
I don't fell like going in to too much detail, but the forms with the signature on the back SHOULD NOT be getting rejected. I tried to address this when the last thread about it popped up a couple of weeks ago, but it apparently didn't work. I'll try to get this fixed next week.  If you know who has sent one of these back recently, please post who it was. |
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RenegadeX
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Posted: 5/19/2007 8:53:04 PM
[Last Edit: 7/31/2007 12:21:05 PM by RenegadeX]
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M4-TUNA
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Posted: 5/19/2007 9:20:52 PM
I fill out the info from Title II and when I downloaded and try to open the file nothing is there. Damn I cant win. LOL
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Posted: 5/20/2007 2:44:29 AM
[Last Edit: 5/20/2007 2:47:30 AM by MtDew69]
So does this mean the four form 1's I currently have cooking (DC addy) will be kicked back to me? |
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Posted: 5/22/2007 9:50:12 AM
[Last Edit: 5/22/2007 9:51:10 AM by 50bmg50]
I have been looking at these "wrong Form 1" posts for sometime now and I figured that I would weigh in. I had a Form 1 approved on April 20th with the signature on the back. I have another Form 1 pending that has the signature on the back. It went pending on May 17th. I have post up at the end of the week if I hear anything.
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GHPorter
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Posted: 5/22/2007 11:27:55 AM
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Posted: 5/22/2007 1:32:37 PM
Thats good to hear. |
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Posted: 5/23/2007 12:32:55 AM
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Posted: 5/29/2007 5:11:11 PM
Well I received my Form 1 with a stamp on it today and,,,, it had the sig on the back. Approved May 24th, 2007. Looks like they are taking both, at least for now...
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Posted: 5/31/2007 1:45:16 PM
They kicked my Form 1 back to me about 2 months ago, I had sent the one in with the signature block on the back. The examinor told me it was all but approved, just needed the updated form and she would kick it thru quickly once she received it. She did so, got the stamp about a week after I sent in the new form. Maybe now they are just accepting them since they got so many in with the block on the back...
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Bhart89
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Posted: 6/4/2007 7:40:29 PM
I just sent off a form 1 today that I printed from the TitleII site. I sent it to the Martinsburg, WV address. What are my odds of this being accepted?
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Posted: 6/5/2007 7:38:57 PM
Got my "your forms are backordered" letter in the mail today.
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Posted: 6/6/2007 1:21:50 PM
I used the Form 1 located at http://www.titleii.com/pdf/010205-Form1.pdf. The old form, with the signature on the front. Sent it off to Martinsburg, West Virginia on May 2, 2007. Received back approved June 4, 2007.
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Posted: 6/6/2007 10:25:29 PM
Update! ATF sent me 12 new form 1s in the mail today!
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AEROX711
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Posted: 6/7/2007 10:12:46 PM
I just printed out the form from your link. Any reason why it won't work for me guys? |
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Posted: 6/11/2007 10:53:06 AM
The form 1 I sent had the signature block on the front and listed the address as NFA BATF with the only address as Washington DC 20226. Here is is www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf
I sent it there and according to the online tracking It is undeliverable there. This sucks......I now see other forms with 244 Needy Road, Martinsburg, WV 25401? When my form comes back from DC can I send it to the WV address even if the form itself will have DC on it? I have determined that the information and this whole process is nothing but red tape. Hopfully it is worth it. What's with all the conflicting addresses and information. WHERE DOES IT GO? |
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