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Posted: 5/8/2016 4:18:25 PM EDT


I have an 1866 Trapdoor Springfield in .50-70 Government
that I want to shoot at the Single Action Shooting Society’s End of Trail match
this June.
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I have not shot this before and want to load black power
cartridges, I ordered some cartridge cases
and a Lyman mold (.515 diameter and 450gr).
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I’ll be filling the case with enough powder (2Fg) to
compress it about 1/16 to 1/8th of an inch, will use a wad, and will lube the bullet
with SPG.
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My question is: without spending lots of time on the range
does anyone know what the original ballistics were?  I know I won’t duplicate the round exactly as
I won’t get a full 70 grains of powder in the case but I’m hoping knowing the
original ballistics will be a good starting point in finding out where this
thing shoots at various ranges.
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If anyone knows what the modern ballistics with black powder
and the Lyman bullet are that would be even better.
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I may be able to chronograph the round; if I can do that
does anyone know of software that models the Lyman bullet?
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Thanks
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Link Posted: 5/8/2016 7:34:15 PM EDT
[#1]
If you can't get 70 grains in, what makes you think they could?

Seems to me that you are duplicating the original load, assuming the same bullet.

What am I missing?



Link Posted: 5/8/2016 8:19:38 PM EDT
[#2]
The original cases were made differently and had greater volume.  
Link Posted: 5/8/2016 10:56:10 PM EDT
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Oh, OK.

Thinner, and balloon head?

Offhand, I would say that you are simply going to have to chronograph them, and run the results through a ballistic calculator.

Link Posted: 5/9/2016 11:37:42 AM EDT
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My Shiloh sharps is in .50-70.  I'm able to use a drop tube and a compression die to get a full 70 gr. in a Starline case with lots of compression and no wad under the bullet.  I've also shot 65 gr. w/ a little less compression. My rifle likes the 70 grain load so that's what I use exclusively now.  I lube the bullet with a 50/50 mix by volume of peanut oil and beeswax.  My load chronographs right at 1250 fps.  The Lyman 515142 bullet theoretically has a BC of .250.  Use JBM Ballistics to run the numbers to get you close.  The problem with long range and black powder trajectories is any small deviation in the data or distance equals a big shift on the target.  Good luck.
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