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Posted: 3/22/2015 9:25:18 PM EDT
Update: I added three new pictures. The barrel is ~39" long and has a smooth bore. There are no markings on the barrel, just the worn name on the lock. The buttstock is symmetrical on both sides, so there isn't any type of cheekpiece. I'm not sure about the caliber/gauge, but the muzzle measures .75" wide.
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Posted: 3/22/2015 11:09:27 PM EDT
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It would be helpful to have an overall view to get an idea of the general shape of the rifle.
American longrifles is on of the better sites for these types of firearms. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 10:40:59 AM EDT
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Post 1800 gun. The style of the stock is very much like that of a 1830-1850s gun. Is there even a hint of a cheekpiece on it?
Is that a rifled bore? If so, the barrel is possibly salvaged from an 1803 rifle. The buttplate is very much like a Brown Bess, only that this one is steel and not brass. It may have been from a fowler. Is there a sideplate that is opposite of the lock? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 11:14:10 AM EDT
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Kind of looks half-stocked, indicating it's post 1830 or so. Maybe an english fowler. As the prior poster suggested, look to see if it's rifled, and to see whether there is a cheek piece.
ETA: the engraving on the lock doesn't necessarily have the maker's name. Probably is the lock-maker. Look for a signature or markings on top of the barrel. |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 7:19:12 PM EDT
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The brass touch hole liner puzzles me. I wonder when that was installed?
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Posted: 3/23/2015 8:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Post 1800 gun. The style of the stock is very much like that of a 1830-1850s gun. Is there even a hint of a cheekpiece on it? Is that a rifled bore? If so, the barrel is possibly salvaged from an 1803 rifle. The buttplate is very much like a Brown Bess, only that this one is steel and not brass. It may have been from a fowler. Is there a sideplate that is opposite of the lock? I'll be out of town until Friday, so I'll take a look at it again then. If I remember correctly, it was a smooth bore. What would the cheek piece look like? A raised part in the stock? |
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Posted: 3/23/2015 9:24:51 PM EDT
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If it's smoothbore it's likely a fowler rather than a rifle, also argued by the lack of sights. Although military smoothbore muskets were sans rear sight as well this doesn't look like it was a conversion of such. The shape of the stock, long barrel underlug, ramrod tip all make me think it's a fowling piece. I'd say late English or French manufacture given the half-octagon barrel and steel furniture.
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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:39:35 AM EDT
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Post here and ask: http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?board=3.0
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Posted: 3/24/2015 7:58:02 PM EDT
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It probably is a fowler then. The half-octagon and then round barrel was common among them (but the 1803 Harper's Ferry rifle had a similar barrel, but rifled). Fowlers were very popular guns because you could take both waterfowl, upland game and if needed, with buck 'n ball, big game. The buttplate is flat like many fowlers were too.
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:32:10 PM EDT
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I added a few more pictures. Thanks for the help guys.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:32:44 AM EDT
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Looks like you've got a good reply over there!
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:44:41 PM EDT
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My guess is some sort of English trade musket that has been modded over the years. The the gooseneck lock screams english. Trade muskets were made cheap and often didn't have much for markings.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 11:28:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
My guess is some sort of English trade musket that has been modded over the years. The the gooseneck lock screams english. Trade muskets were made cheap and often didn't have much for markings. My thoughts as well. The iron furniture is a giveaway. |
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