looking at the cva break open jobbers - thinking that I want one in stainless.

Do you realy gain anything from the lower end models to the high end?

What does the barrel lengths do?

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Red

What useage are you looking for? Is it just to be able to hunt during blackpowder season, or do you have any interest in historic rifles/patterns like the the Kentucky and Pennsylvania Long Rifles. If it is the latter option, take a look at the Lyman Great Plains Rifle. It is available with a 1-66 twist round ball, or a 1-48 twist better suited for Maxi-ball, conical, and sabots. It is pretty damn accurate as replicas go, and they shoot very well. They have a terrific coolness factor as well. The double set trigger is a great piece of gear too. Buy once, cry once, but you won't regret the quality of the piece.


I know, off topic in re the OP, but not into in-lines so I thought I'd offer an alternative.

no dog in the fight but I did find this startling cva inlines

Not CVA but I am lusting after one of the Traditions ones.  Like This.

I saw one for $200 last week end.  I was sorely tempted.
I have a TC Firehawk now in .54 and it is a proven killer!  (not my picture but mine looks just like this)

If there is no dog in the fight then why continue slinging shit about a company that took ownership of their mistake and fixed it.
Read up op I think you will find this has been addressed by cva.
I have an Accura V2 stainless, it is accurate and a pleasure to shoot and own.
There are a lot of options for bp, pick what you like replicas or inlines. I looked a long time and became convinced that for MY purpose
Cva offered the best deal for the money.
YMMV.

when I went to research bp inlines I came upon this and it resounded with me.  Please purchase what you want, it is of no concern of mine

I own 2 CVA Wolfs. Definatly CVA's entry level inline, but for my needs they fit the bill. Short barrels as I hunt heavy timber, light cause I do walk a bit trying to get the deer moving for my wife, And with 2 50grain 777 pellets and a 295 Power belt I have put a hell of a lot of venison in the freezer.

As a side note, I have to wonder how many of those CVA accidents were caused by shooter error and not the fault of the manufacturer,

I am a little more old school, i have  CVA hawken .45 percussion rifle, & yes i do get some funny looks taking this old duck out hunting, powder horn & all, however it has proved itself many times over for taking deer, & as those of you who have been to New Zealand can confirm our bush is very thick.

   .445 lead round ball (hand cast with lee mould)
     60gn fffg
    .10 patch with beeswax, olive oil &  tallow lube

Past CVA issues aside, for future reference I wouldn't pay attention to anything Randy Wakeman has to say, or Toby Bridges. Get your muzzleloader purchasing advice anywhere except from those two.

Randy Wakeman's sponsorships seem to play a strong part in his conclusions.  He does offer reasonable observations in a general sense, but when it comes down to a specific review of a specifica brand, I don't find him to be impartial.

I own a cva wolf and it does everything I need. I am in upstate NY so I am hunting in woodlands. Short barrel is good for hiking through the hills. I got mine probably 7 or 8 years ago. I think it was $279 shipped to my desk at work with a 3x9 scope. I put it together and haven't touched it since. Scope is decent, not great. But do you really need a high end scope on a muzzleloader? Probably not. Dollar for dollar I don't think the wolf can be beat. 100 grains of powder and a 250gr sabot and you are good to go. No need to run 150 in the shorter barrel guns. Make sure to get some never sieze and put gobs of it on your breech plug. Much easier to clean it off your fingers rather than have to air hammer your breech plug out a year from now.

I own 2 .50 CVA wolf's, and 1 .45 CVA Kodiak, all have been excellent and can compete with any MZLDR I have ever came across.

I much prefer the Kodiak, mine is nickel plated and has stood up to many hunts and hikes. Most of my family and a few friends have the CVA Optima and they also love them and are happy with the purchase.