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Posted: 7/8/2012 11:42:52 AM

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Thinking of getting one as it's the only one I can find around here that has the features I like. Straightline stock. 30" octagonal barrel with no taper to the muzzle, casehardened reciever and crescent buttplate. Its also chambered in .45-120.
Is the quality as good as a pedersoli or other top end companies making reproductions?

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Posted: 7/9/2012 2:09:05 AM
Everything on the internet seems to be positive about this company an their guns, fit an finish are said to be good, the only negative I found was about the wood not having any grain an not being walnut, I know that for the Italian made sharps that Pedersolli is at the top an it goes down in quality after that, that being said, I use to own an IAB sharps in 45/70 which shot an functioned fine but fit an finish had a lot to be desired but it wasn't a total pig, I sold it to a friend who is very happy with it, I bought a Taylors Sharps in 45/70 an I'd put it up against any Pedersolli"s I've looked at, wood is beautiful, case hardening an bluing is excellent on it, I love it my only negative about it is on the rear ladder site the little slide bar is a loose fit an will slide down while shooting if you have the ladder raised. I didn't see an offering on Chapparalls web site for a 45/120. If its priced right then just check it out, if wood to metal fit is good an finish is good an it functions smooth you should be fine, don't know about a crescent buttplate with 45/120 though, every sharps I've seen has more of a shotgun styled buttplate. (don't open the falling block with out first putting on half cock, could break firing pin) I know I didn't help much, but best advice is just look it over good, they all will shoot.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 1:34:32 PM
Off your original topic, but... If you are shooting black powder, it can be a bit difficult to get consistent results with the .45-120. It has some reloading rules particular to the large case. Folks on the BPCR forums can get you going if you follow what they've found to work. For smokeless, the cartridge really has too much capacity. My preference is toward the smaller cartridges such as the .45-70.

FWIW What we call the .45-120 today was never an original Sharps cartridge. It was developed by Winchester after Sharps went out of business.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 4:25:51 PM
Thats interesting about the 45-120, I can't even imagine shooting that with modern powder, I didn't think about that but you would get more of a response to your question over on the BPCR forum or Shiloh Forum.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 10:46:40 PM
Thanks guys. My options are narrowed down a bit. One of the only ones under $2000 in my area is the chapparal sharps in .45-120. I'll just have to get dies and brass for her when I get it. It's not as easy to load for smokeless as .45-70 but I like the idea of using compressed BP/BP substitute loads and cast leads in a shell that's 4.16 inches long when loaded. That should get a few looks when I'm on the range or hunting. I may only load it with BP but a 500+gr. lead at 1600fps should take care of anything Im going to come up against.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 11:55:58 PM
I couldn't find any on gunbroker so no ideal what they cost but if your budget is under $2000 that leaves the door open for a nice one like this

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=295242135
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Posted: 7/10/2012 2:21:11 PM
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If your budget goes up to $2000 keep an eye out for a real American made work of art... A used Shiloh. I just checked Gunbroker and there are 3 for sale under $2k. None of them are quite what you're looking at now, but one might come up in the future

Just one note on BP substitutes: They suck in BPCR. They are no where near as consistent as real BP. I'm getting single digit standard deviations in my .50-70 and most folks do with real BP. The BP subs give you no where near as low std. deviations. Low std. dev. is critical for long range shooting with BPCR since the starting velocity is so low.

Secondly, BP subs are more corrosive than real black.

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