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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:37:17 AM
[Last Edit: 6/15/2012 1:15:46 PM by 1srelluc]

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I found this well worn 1863 type II Springfield musket at a yard sale this morning for $100.00.

Sadly the stock had been cut-back but thankfully not the barrel. There is some strong rifleing present but there is cleaning rod damage at the muzzle. A ferrule for the cleaning rod was soldered on and a wood plug stuck down in the cleang rod slot so it would stick out past the muzzle. I guess so it could be grabbed quick or after I thought about it to keep from hitting the barrel.. The lock is in good shape but the nipple is worn down to a nub. The bands are U marked.

The lady that had it (she looked to be in her 80s) said it had been in her family for as long as she could remember and that her Great Granddad had found it behind their house after the battle of Cedar Creek. The Battlefield butts up against the back of her property and the house is antibellum so it might be true.

I asked her if the initials HWR cut into the stock were her GGD's and she said no and guessed they had been on there when he found it. Meh....Who knows for sure but it's a nice story.

I plan to keep it the way it is as the old muskets left behind after the war served for a time to put meat on the table, defend hearth & home, and it is part of my area's heritage.





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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:41:26 AM
As my wife said "that is simply fucking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!"
Congrats...I know it will be well taken care of.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:48:30 AM
That is cool. Like you, I would leave it exactly as is.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:50:58 AM
Good call on leaving it like it is. Going to shoot it and is there a charge in there right now?
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:52:41 AM
Good score. That would be going over my mantle.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 12:08:30 PM
Very cool. I like that you are going to keep it the way you found it.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 12:09:17 PM
Originally Posted By SS109:
Good call on leaving it like it is. Going to shoot it and is there a charge in there right now?


I ran a bullet puller (screw type) down in it and it does not feel like there was anything in there but a cob-web I pulled out.

It's shooting days are long over but it will be well taken care of. The old altered muskets are highy regarded in my area but not much of a much to collectors except for parts. Heck just the lock will fetch darn near twice what I paid for the musket.

This one is a bit odd in that the barrel was not bobbed as most I've seen that have come from around here have been. Even with the 40" barrel the musket comes to the shoulder very well and weighs a hair under 8 pounds.




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Posted: 6/15/2012 12:09:38 PM
Impressive find!
I agree, leave it as is. Maybe do some research into the units that would have been in that area of the battlefield and see if you could track down anyone with those intiials that was in a unit that was in that area of the battlefield.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:54:29 PM
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Interesting find, last year I found one that was sporterized almost the same identical way. However the front ramrod pipe is a quite a bit more crude.. However the lock is smooth as glass. Paid the same price for it too

Will try to get pics later.






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Posted: 6/16/2012 7:54:50 PM
Great find
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Posted: 6/16/2012 8:28:52 PM
Thats pretty fucking cool, Especially with the initials carved into the stock.
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Posted: 6/16/2012 8:32:39 PM
I would argue for not leaveing it as found.








I would have to put a new nipple on it and shoot it some
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Posted: 6/17/2012 9:51:46 AM
Neat find. Go back and ask the lady to sign a paper attesting that her GGF (his name spelled out with DoB) found it by Cedar Creek. Also put the address of the house there. You may ask the rangers what unit was there.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 10:41:02 AM
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Neat find. Go back and ask the lady to sign a paper attesting that her GGF (his name spelled out with DoB) found it by Cedar Creek. Also put the address of the house there. You may ask the rangers what unit was there.


LOL....I un-assed that place as fast as I could before she changed her mind and I damn sure ain't going back.

I did write down what she said and put it under the BP sort of like the tags under the BPs on K31s. Nice story but it might be just that. I bought the musket, not the story.

I took it to a local "Valley Gun expert" and he told me (and showed me a couple of his examples) of bobbed muskets that were used post-war in my area and he suspects it was the same guy doing the work on them as the ram-rod ferrels are almost identical in the way they were made/soldered. The metal is not tube stock but a piece of metal that was hammered-out then formed and soldered on. One of his examples also had the wood plug in the cleaning rod channal so it would stick out some.

BTW....The Cedar Creek Battlefield is not a Nationl Battlefield Park and is held by the Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation. Sort of like how the New Market Battlefield is owned/managed by VMI. Hupp's Hill Battlefield just south of Strasburg, Va is also held by Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation and just opened a couple years back.



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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:08:29 AM
Wherever you are in VA, your yard sales are much, much better than the ones around me! $100. Holy crap, that's a beautiful find.