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Posted: 4/7/2014 8:52:58 PM EDT
Picked up a K98 Russian capture
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Posted: 4/8/2014 4:20:59 AM EDT
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker?
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Posted: 4/8/2014 5:48:28 AM EDT
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Nice find! Also I love your table.
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Posted: 4/8/2014 2:56:45 PM EDT
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? It's been totally refinished. |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 3:35:45 PM EDT
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It's been totally refinished. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? It's been totally refinished. The metal sure doesn't appear to be. |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 3:39:05 PM EDT
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welcome to the club. get some 8mm and shoot it now!
Also, that M1 coffee table is awesome btw. Kinda funny to see the K98 next to the garand. If only those rifles could talk right? |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 4:00:44 PM EDT
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The metal sure doesn't appear to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? It's been totally refinished. The metal sure doesn't appear to be. It has, you see German blue in comparison to Russian blue/paint you will know what i am talking about. |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 4:11:02 PM EDT
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It's been totally refinished. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? It's been totally refinished. Yeah by the Russians the shitty blue and the damn ugly shellac 
I know some purists condemn me for this, but the first thing I did with all my RC's was to strip the shellac 
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Posted: 4/8/2014 4:17:54 PM EDT
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Well, to my eye, that doesn't look like the typical Russian blue job, or the usual shellac. I've been wrong before, though. It almost looks like the Russian finish was stripped from the metal and poly added to the stock. Could be the flash, though.
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Posted: 4/8/2014 5:28:27 PM EDT
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Some folks remove the Russian finish to reveal the original phosphate underneath. But that only works with rifles with that type of finish. And that type was only used on certain rifles /years.
As for the finish, it does have a poly look to it.. but like AK said it could be because of the flash. Any chance for some pictures in natural light? |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 7:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. I stripped the gun down when I got it and found several areas that were filled with cosmoline, the bore was cloudy and took a while to clean, it looks a whole lot better and with 20 rounds put through it, it shined up real nice, The flash does washout the very dark metal. this rifle looks awesome and it shoots well, I picked up some Egyptian 1961 ammo and shot it the other day, real smooth. |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 7:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: welcome to the club. get some 8mm and shoot it now! Also, that M1 coffee table is awesome btw. Kinda funny to see the K98 next to the garand. If only those rifles could talk right? I built the Case Table, I had to make it smaller that a normal gun crate since my office is small and the crate would take up to much room. The Table case also contains a Mosin Nagant 1943 DDR (Deutsche Demokratische Republik), Sino-Soviet 1956 SKS (Soviet Parts/Chinese Built) M1 Garand Winchester Oct 8th 1943 |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 7:57:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some folks remove the Russian finish to reveal the original phosphate underneath. But that only works with rifles with that type of finish. And that type was only used on certain rifles /years. As for the finish, it does have a poly look to it.. but like AK said it could be because of the flash. Any chance for some pictures in natural light? |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 8:39:13 PM EDT
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. 
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Posted: 4/8/2014 9:18:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. I bought a Tin of Yugo 900 rounds 1980's 8mm ammo for 400, a bit pricey but thats all I can find,except for some crappy Samco Iranian 8mm that had a 50% Hang fire and 50% fail to fire. sent it back since the hang fires were lasting over 3 seconds and the range officer pulled me off the line. The Yugo Ammo should be in by friday.. |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 9:52:36 AM EDT
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Got it.. I bought a Tin of Yugo 900 rounds 1980's 8mm ammo for 400, a bit pricey but thats all I can find,except for some crappy Samco Iranian 8mm that had a 50% Hang fire and 50% fail to fire. sent it back since the hang fires were lasting over 3 seconds and the range officer pulled me off the line. The Yugo Ammo should be in by friday.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. since the hang fires were lasting over 3 seconds and the range officer pulled me off the line. The Yugo Ammo should be in by friday.. Hopefully not from wideners. They have CC leak issues with their credit card system. |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 1:00:19 PM EDT
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Gustloff-Werke, Weimar (bcd) The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. I stripped the gun down when I got it and found several areas that were filled with cosmoline, the bore was cloudy and took a while to clean, it looks a whole lot better and with 20 rounds put through it, it shined up real nice, The flash does washout the very dark metal. this rifle looks awesome and it shoots well, I picked up some Egyptian 1961 ammo and shot it the other day, real smooth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. I stripped the gun down when I got it and found several areas that were filled with cosmoline, the bore was cloudy and took a while to clean, it looks a whole lot better and with 20 rounds put through it, it shined up real nice, The flash does washout the very dark metal. this rifle looks awesome and it shoots well, I picked up some Egyptian 1961 ammo and shot it the other day, real smooth. WAT No, you are contradicting yourself. You yourself refinished it, so how the hell can it be original or you even think it's original? |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 1:01:51 PM EDT
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That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. Yes, it's the refinishing that the OP did. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 1:07:22 PM EDT
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The metal sure doesn't appear to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice! Looks to be mostly original finish, too. What maker? It's been totally refinished. The metal sure doesn't appear to be. The buttplate and takedown disk are blued on R/C 98k's. They have clearly been stripped. The metal on the barreled receiver is generally dip-blued. hard to tell if that's still there, but it does look awfully not very dark. Anyway, the rifle's stock is clearly a bubba job at least. This rifle is not really representative of anything WW2 original. It's a fantasy piece made by the OP because he was unable to obtain an actually original piece, so he created a reproduction which merely looks like a WW2 piece. He also overdid it with the BLO, but whatever. |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 1:13:12 PM EDT
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Yes, it's the refinishing that the OP did. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. Yes, it's the refinishing that the OP did. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL exactly, Germany never used BLO on 98ks. |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Ok, now I understand what your referring too..
I think of refinishing as sanding, staining and so on, The rifle was nasty with cosmo, dirt and stuff I could not identify so I cleaned with 50% rubbing alcohol/water. And wiped with a soft rag with a coat of BLO, I never thought of this as refinishing Sorry, I will remove the BLO tonight with rubbing alcohol. What should be correct for 1943 to protect the finish? |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 4:03:38 PM EDT
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Ok, now I understand what your referring too.. I think of refinishing as sanding, staining and so on, The rifle was nasty with cosmo, dirt and stuff I could not identify so I cleaned with 50% rubbing alcohol/water. And wiped with a soft rag with a coat of BLO, I never thought of this as refinishing Sorry, I will remove the BLO tonight with rubbing alcohol. What should be correct for 1943 to protect the finish? Howard's feed n wax. The only way to travel. 
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Posted: 4/9/2014 4:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Howard's feed n wax. The only way to travel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/11911923536_4ddd696097_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/11911928206_2b26db9f34_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/11911045215_723dcb4906_b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok, now I understand what your referring too.. I think of refinishing as sanding, staining and so on, The rifle was nasty with cosmo, dirt and stuff I could not identify so I cleaned with 50% rubbing alcohol/water. And wiped with a soft rag with a coat of BLO, I never thought of this as refinishing Sorry, I will remove the BLO tonight with rubbing alcohol. What should be correct for 1943 to protect the finish? Howard's feed n wax. The only way to travel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/11911923536_4ddd696097_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/11911928206_2b26db9f34_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/11911045215_723dcb4906_b.jpg Do you mean this stuff? http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=34191556&KPID=18212477&pla=pla_18212477 I will pick some up tomorrow |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 4:15:40 PM EDT
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Do you mean this stuff? http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=34191556&KPID=18212477&pla=pla_18212477 I will pick some up tomorrow Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, now I understand what your referring too.. I think of refinishing as sanding, staining and so on, The rifle was nasty with cosmo, dirt and stuff I could not identify so I cleaned with 50% rubbing alcohol/water. And wiped with a soft rag with a coat of BLO, I never thought of this as refinishing Sorry, I will remove the BLO tonight with rubbing alcohol. What should be correct for 1943 to protect the finish? Howard's feed n wax. The only way to travel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/11911923536_4ddd696097_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/11911928206_2b26db9f34_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/11911045215_723dcb4906_b.jpg Do you mean this stuff? http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=34191556&KPID=18212477&pla=pla_18212477 I will pick some up tomorrow Correct, its the preferred method of preserving the original finish without harming or altering it. Also helps keep moisture in the grain to help prevent cracks. Rub it on, wait 20min (or longer) and wipe it off. Its pretty much made of orange oil and beeswax. Here is a Spainish mauser that was dry as a bone and filthy. Howards brought the color back out of the finish: 
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?355082-Preserving-K98-Stock |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 7:07:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully not from wideners. They have CC leak issues with their credit card system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. since the hang fires were lasting over 3 seconds and the range officer pulled me off the line. The Yugo Ammo should be in by friday.. Hopefully not from wideners. They have CC leak issues with their credit card system. |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 3:24:23 AM EDT
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nope a personal purchase from a forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. since the hang fires were lasting over 3 seconds and the range officer pulled me off the line. The Yugo Ammo should be in by friday.. Hopefully not from wideners. They have CC leak issues with their credit card system. That explains why I had to have my card canceled a couple weeks ago. 
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:02:06 AM EDT
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Yep apparently they thought they got a fix, until they were getting reports as early as 3 days ago about people still getting their CC info used. As of yesterday they are no longer taking online orders - its that bad. |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 7:20:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct, its the preferred method of preserving the original finish without harming or altering it. Also helps keep moisture in the grain to help prevent cracks. Rub it on, wait 20min (or longer) and wipe it off. Its pretty much made of orange oil and beeswax. Here is a Spainish mauser that was dry as a bone and filthy. Howards brought the color back out of the finish: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3767/12309194584_632ea57a92_b.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2820/12308916183_e04660c5e9_b.jpg http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?355082-Preserving-K98-Stock Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, now I understand what your referring too.. I think of refinishing as sanding, staining and so on, The rifle was nasty with cosmo, dirt and stuff I could not identify so I cleaned with 50% rubbing alcohol/water. And wiped with a soft rag with a coat of BLO, I never thought of this as refinishing Sorry, I will remove the BLO tonight with rubbing alcohol. What should be correct for 1943 to protect the finish? Howard's feed n wax. The only way to travel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/11911923536_4ddd696097_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/11911928206_2b26db9f34_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/11911045215_723dcb4906_b.jpg Do you mean this stuff? http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=34191556&KPID=18212477&pla=pla_18212477 I will pick some up tomorrow Correct, its the preferred method of preserving the original finish without harming or altering it. Also helps keep moisture in the grain to help prevent cracks. Rub it on, wait 20min (or longer) and wipe it off. Its pretty much made of orange oil and beeswax. Here is a Spainish mauser that was dry as a bone and filthy. Howards brought the color back out of the finish: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3767/12309194584_632ea57a92_b.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2820/12308916183_e04660c5e9_b.jpg http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?355082-Preserving-K98-Stock I cleaned the BLO off using a hair dryer and 50% Alcohol/Distilled water. Using a clean paper towel keeping it wet you can see the BLO come off (its got a gold color) the stock started to look like it did when I got it. you can feel the BLO coming off because the alcohol softens and starts to break it down causing it to get sticky and the heat is drawing it out of the grain. Then I applied the Howard's I have got to thank you for suggesting this product, great stuff, looks good and the wife is not yelling about the smell. I will take better pictures this weekend  I was wondering if the sling is real or a replica, how can you tell I found this mark on it.  |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 4:37:53 PM EDT
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Here are a few outdoors Natural Light Pictures after I cleaned the stock and returned it original. the Howards put's a temporary protective coating that did not add any un-natural shine.     |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 2:23:01 AM EDT
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Sling is a repro for sure. Not seen a original look that good, and still be on a rifle!
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Posted: 4/12/2014 6:55:16 AM EDT
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Sling is a repro for sure. Not seen a original look that good, and still be on a rifle! Yup it's gotta be a repro. That stock looks wayyyy better now. Nice job. |
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Posted: 4/12/2014 4:28:51 PM EDT
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Beautiful, nothing like a good K98. They're my favorite rifle for sure. Nice pick up.
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Posted: 4/12/2014 7:50:25 PM EDT
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That is a great looking rifle
I've heard the 70s-80s Yugo 8mm is the best available |
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Posted: 4/16/2014 7:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a great looking rifle I've heard the 70s-80s Yugo 8mm is the best available |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 7:16:04 AM EDT
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The Finish is original, I cleaned it and put a coat of Boiled Linseed Oil on it. That's the "shiny" we're seeing on the stock. Good grab - it'll be a nice shooter OP. Yes, it's the refinishing that the OP did. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL Understood. As I stated - "nice shooter." I'm a - keep it original - kind of guy as well - but it's the OP's rifle - not mine (or yours). |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 7:36:37 AM EDT
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Howards saved it! You guys wonder why i am such a believer. This rifle is a prime example.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:13:15 AM EDT
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90% of the people who Bitch and complain about Howard Feed & wax have never used it. Try it.
BTW nice walnut stock. 
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Posted: 4/17/2014 8:19:44 AM EDT
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90% of the people who Bitch and complain about Howard Feed & wax have never used it. Try it. BTW nice walnut stock.
HDH. Exactly. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 6:17:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Howards saved it! You guys wonder why i am such a believer. This rifle is a prime example. I am glad I only did one coat of BLO it was easy to remove. how good it looked so I gave my other rifles the same treatment and I love it.. Here is the M1 Garand with HFW I also noticed the HFW removed some of the dirt that was ground in on the bottom of the grip,  My SKS with it, this one really brought out the grain in the wood, it's hard to tell in the pictures  Impressive because this is what it looked like when I got it  |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:42:44 AM EDT
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+1
Howards F&W saved my dry-as-a-bone M41 Carcano. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:07:23 AM EDT
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curious if anyone who complains about howards ACTUALLY used it and still didn't like it?
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Posted: 4/30/2014 10:08:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: curious if anyone who complains about howards ACTUALLY used it and still didn't like it? |
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Posted: 4/30/2014 10:24:22 PM EDT
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Digging that gun coffee table...very cool.
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Posted: 5/1/2014 4:53:15 PM EDT
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I just put a new Timney 24 LB firing pin spring in my 1943 Mauser. I was at 50% failure to fire last time to the range. Hope to give it a go this weekend.
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Posted: 5/5/2014 8:00:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Digging that gun coffee table...very cool. I built it from scratch, I was going to use a empty Mosing Nagant Crate but it was too large to use in my small office, so I picked up some wood and hardware at home depot, had some paint made to match my 7.62x54R Spam Can and put it together. the top is 1/4 inch thick polycarbonate that I inset 1/2 inch into the 3/4 inch Hemlock wood top that I enforced with steel angle brackets. you could stand on top and jump on the glass and it will pop out or break. Here are a couple pictures   |
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