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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:30:47 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT My question is... The MP-40 magazine is curved instead of straight. I've never seen an MP-40 with a curved magazine before. Did they put in the wrong magazine meant for an MP5 into this MP-40??? I'm not sure if this forum is the right one to post this but I thought that MP-40 might be considered C&R and you guys might be more familiar with it than anyone else. Moderator, please move if not appropriate in this forum. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:38:08 AM
That MP40 looks very strange the barrel is different the whole profile of the weapon looks wrong from the video. Might just be the video but that weapon looks somewhat different from most MP40s. Looks strange I have seen a few curved mags before but they were not for the MP-40 they were modified mags from another weapon can't remember off the top of my head what that weapon was.
Strange looking MP-40. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:40:38 AM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 10:48:18 AM by Lone-Wolf]
Its an M56 clone of the MP-40 not a true MP-40 thats why it looks so wrong and the mag is curved. The M56 in 9mm was not the best weapon when compared to the MP-40 in 9mm.
Thats not an MP-40 its an M56 clone and some of the rougher made ones had problems. The M56 submachine gun is a Yugoslavian submachine gun chambered in 7.62x25mm Tokarev, designed for use with the Yugoslav People's Army. Initially a state-funded product, it was later produced by Zastava Arms and saw use in a number of conflicts following the breakup of former Yugoslavia. The M56 is a clone of the MP 40 submachine gun used by Nazi Germany, easily distinguished from the MP 40 by its increased length and curved magazine.[1] While inexpensive to produce and easy to maintain, the M56 proved to be quite effective at range over its German counterpart; its 7.62mm cartridge providing significantly more penetration over the 9x19mm round found in the MP 40, although lacking the same stopping power |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:43:17 AM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 10:47:25 AM by Lone-Wolf]
Whoever told you that was an MP-40 lied to you.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:45:24 AM
for having a round blow up in your face, i am impressed with you trigger dicipline and handling the weapon after the malfunction.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:49:26 AM
Originally Posted By impostor71:
OP having grown up watching thousands of WWII movies how could you not see that was not a true MP-40 it looks so different.
So I was at OFASTS this past weekend. I wanted to shoot an MP-40. So I rented one at a vendor, and upon pulling the trigger, the 9mm round blew up inside the gun sending the disintegrated casing into my forehead right above my left eyebrow. A piece of broken casing embedded in cut and might have cauterized it bc there's no blood where normally a cut at that spot would be gushing blood. The tail part of 9mm casing including the primer (where the markings are usually found) fell out of gun when the magazine was removed. After that, I didn't want to shoot the MP-40 any more. They took the MP-40 away. The owner of this place was very apologetic. He gave me an extra mag to shoot thru an MP5 and then another in an MP5K, as well as a free 100 rnd belt thru the 240 Bravo mounted in the Fox armored vehicle they have there. My question is... The MP-40 magazine is curved instead of straight. I've never seen an MP-40 with a curved magazine before. Did they put in the wrong magazine meant for an MP5 into this MP-40??? I'm not sure if this forum is the right one to post this but I thought that MP-40 might be considered C&R and you guys might be more familiar with it than anyone else. Moderator, please move if not appropriate in this forum.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X778ELKVlZY
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Posted: 6/27/2012 10:58:36 AM
Thanks for the info Lone-Wolf. I'm not sure what was up with that vendor. I asked for an MP-40, they looked at their inventory sheet with some confusion and then said they have an MP-40 which they handed to me to shoot. Thinking about it now, they were probably confused bc their inventory sheet probably indicated MP-56 instead of MP-40. Now I wonder what kind of ammo they loaded into that magazine...
Frankly, I was pretty excited to get to shoot a real MP-40 so when they handed the firearm to me, I was too geeked to notice that the magazine was curved. Not until later when I reviewed the video did I notice that the magazine is not a straight mag. It was a bit scary to have the round exploded right there. I felt a big impact on my forehead and was a little bit dazed. I'm glad I'm ok too. :) |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:03:39 AM
OOWWW!!!
 Seriously, glad you were not hurt. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:06:11 AM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 11:09:06 AM by Lone-Wolf]
Originally Posted By impostor71:
Where the fucked you is that is the 9mm conversion of the M-56. The original m56 was in 7.62 i believe they used a conversion kit and the gun was not really up to it. I have read a few accounts now of 9mm rounds blowing up in some of the conversions that were not done right. They gave you a turd and thats why it blew up in your face. The m-56s in 7.62 were beasts that ate rounds and spit lead with the best of them its when it gets fucked with a badly done 9mm conversion is where you get problems.
Thanks for the info Lone-Wolf. I'm not sure what was up with that vendor. I asked for an MP-40, they looked at their inventory sheet with some confusion and then said they have an MP-40 which they handed to me to shoot. Thinking about it now, they were probably confused bc their inventory sheet probably indicated MP-56 instead of MP-40. Now I wonder what kind of ammo they loaded into that magazine... Frankly, I was pretty excited to get to shoot a real MP-40 so when they handed the firearm to me, I was too geeked to notice that the magazine was curved. Not until later when I reviewed the video did I notice that the magazine is not a straight mag. It was a bit scary to have the round exploded right there. I felt a big impact on my forehead and was a little bit dazed. I'm glad I'm ok too. :) |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:07:37 AM
it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:11:00 AM
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
There are conversion kits made for 9mm. If you don't put the kit in right or the weapon is too rough for the kit you get problems. It was not designed to fire 9mm making it do so and not knowing what you are doing is going to cause problems and I bet dollers to donuts thats what happened with that weapon.
it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:35:33 AM
Originally Posted By Lone-Wolf:
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
There are conversion kits made for 9mm. If you don't put the kit in right or the weapon is too rough for the kit you get problems. It was not designed to fire 9mm making it do so and not knowing what you are doing is going to cause problems and I bet dollers to donuts thats what happened with that weapon.
it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon This sucks! It was definitely a 9mm as I looked at the ammo and it wasn't 7.62x25 as those look pretty distinctive. Next year, I'll be smarter and look closer when I go find another MP-40 to shoot. Thanks a bunch for info guys! Tom |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:42:41 AM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 11:43:31 AM by Lone-Wolf]
Originally Posted By impostor71:
Stay safe guy sorry about the injury. Hope you get your chance to fire an MP-40. I have got to shoot everything WWII German except for a real STG-44 thats my next weapon I have to get a chance to shoot before I die. MG-42 was the best out of the bunch so far to fire.
Originally Posted By Lone-Wolf:
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
There are conversion kits made for 9mm. If you don't put the kit in right or the weapon is too rough for the kit you get problems. It was not designed to fire 9mm making it do so and not knowing what you are doing is going to cause problems and I bet dollers to donuts thats what happened with that weapon.
it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon This sucks! It was definitely a 9mm as I looked at the ammo and it wasn't 7.62x25 as those look pretty distinctive. Next year, I'll be smarter and look closer when I go find another MP-40 to shoot. Thanks a bunch for info guys! Tom I observed and finger fucked a real STG-44 in a Bosnian-Serb weapons storage facility in 1999 but they had no ammo for it. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 12:21:27 PM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 12:22:29 PM by Villafuego]
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon We have a winner........have never seen a 9mm conversion for an M-56......wrong ammo in mag..... |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 1:17:40 PM
Originally Posted By Spaxspore:
for having a round blow up in your face, i am impressed with you trigger dicipline and handling the weapon after the malfunction. Glad your ok He's obviously not a little sissy like the people who jump around just because they have a hot piece of 5.56 burning their neck during a carbine class. I can't stand those people who can't handle a little pain and cut everyone's course of fire short because the instructor has to grab their muzzle because they are dancing around. The OP has proper discipline and doesn't forget he has a firearm in his hand just because something didn't go as planned. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 1:25:41 PM
Originally Posted By Lone-Wolf: Originally Posted By impostor71: Stay safe guy sorry about the injury. Hope you get your chance to fire an MP-40. I have got to shoot everything WWII German except for a real STG-44 thats my next weapon I have to get a chance to shoot before I die. MG-42 was the best out of the bunch so far to fire.Originally Posted By Lone-Wolf: Originally Posted By MTNmyMag: There are conversion kits made for 9mm. If you don't put the kit in right or the weapon is too rough for the kit you get problems. It was not designed to fire 9mm making it do so and not knowing what you are doing is going to cause problems and I bet dollers to donuts thats what happened with that weapon.it probably had an OOB due to them loading 9mm in a 7.62x25 caliber weapon This sucks! It was definitely a 9mm as I looked at the ammo and it wasn't 7.62x25 as those look pretty distinctive. Next year, I'll be smarter and look closer when I go find another MP-40 to shoot. Thanks a bunch for info guys! Tom I observed and finger fucked a real STG-44 in a Bosnian-Serb weapons storage facility in 1999 but they had no ammo for it. If you get the chance to fire one...DO IT. (My friends have cool toys...)  |
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