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I am definitely subscribing to this post. I would like to see the project progress and how it turns out
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This could be good.
I have been interested in these for a while, but I haven't picked one up yet. Let's see if elcope can convince me to finally do it. |
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Quoted: This could be good. I have been interested in these for a while, but I haven't picked one up yet. Let's see if elcope can convince me to finally do it. Do it. Trust me. I've got more antiques, via IMA, than I do modern weapons. 3 Martinis, 3 Snider-Enfields, 1 p53 Enfield, 1 1843ish EIC Musket, 1 Gahendra and one Brunswick. Most of them are shootable, too. PS: I'm a bad influence. |
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Quoted: I want to cover the restoration of collectible firearms without diminishing the value or collectability of them. If you google the subject you will encounter many different methods, many of which are destructive and harm their value and collectability. You will NOT see discussed in this thread the use of oven cleaner, wire brush wheels, bead blasting or other destructive methods of "restoration", only methods which preserve the value of an antique firearm will be presented by me. Import stamped milsurp M48 Mausers, SKS's & Mosins may be easily should never be cleaned by running them through the dishwasher, but the value of an antique Martini or P53 Enfield needs to be preserved. FIFY. |
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Nuts, those are available fairly inexpensively.
This thread is going to SO cost me money...... Looking good so far! |
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Nuts, those are available fairly inexpensively. This thread is going to SO cost me money...... Looking good so far! I should receive a commission from IMA-USA, I've sold 3 that I know of in addition to mine. |
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Quoted: Quoted: This could be good. I have been interested in these for a while, but I haven't picked one up yet. Let's see if elcope can convince me to finally do it. Do it. Trust me. I've got more antiques, via IMA, than I do modern weapons. 3 Martinis, 3 Snider-Enfields, 1 p53 Enfield, 1 1843ish EIC Musket, 1 Gahendra and one Brunswick. Most of them are shootable, too. PS: I'm a bad influence. yes you are...... fucker edit for the evidence: they clean up VERY nicely if you take your time on them.... Mine is a shooter also (tons of fun) I need to finish cleaning up my .577
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Nuts, those are available fairly inexpensively. This thread is going to SO cost me money...... Looking good so far! +1 Sounds like a fun project for cheap |
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I've always thought about buying one for the fun of cleaning it up. Only reason why I haven't is the pain of finding and loading ammo. I just don't want to invest in all the stuff required, as i don't have any reloading equipment, and I'm not planning on it any time soon, just don't have the room.
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Nuts, those are available fairly inexpensively. This thread is going to SO cost me money...... Looking good so far! I should receive a commission from IMA-USA, I've sold 3 that I know of in addition to mine. I'm going to go ahead and say I'm willing to bet the number is much larger. I'll let you know when and if I order one. |
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That is awesome...One of the reasons I love C-R is the clean-up of the cosmoline and what-not...The only time i've use stuff like brake cleaner is on my SKS.....because it's a Yugo, and a piece of shit, lol. But thanks, had no idea a site like this existed, probably going to pick one up for myself.
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That is awesome...One of the reasons I love C-R is the clean-up of the cosmoline and what-not...The only time i've use stuff like brake cleaner is on my SKS.....because it's a Yugo, and a piece of shit, lol. But thanks, had no idea a site like this existed, probably going to pick one up for myself. Link not safe for wallet. |
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...do they have these in their store in Easton??? I'm going back to PA this weekend and I could easily see myself dropping some coin on a few of these to restore with my dad.
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...do they have these in their store in Easton??? I'm going back to PA this weekend and I could easily see myself dropping some coin on a few of these to restore with my dad. They do and I'm glad that I live far away, because I could envision myself hand selecting one of each, MKII short lever, P53, Brunswick, Snider, Etc. |
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Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why?
http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html |
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Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Nuts, those are available fairly inexpensively. This thread is going to SO cost me money...... Looking good so far! +1 Sounds like a fun project for cheap |
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Quoted: ...do they have these in their store in Easton??? I'm going back to PA this weekend and I could easily see myself dropping some coin on a few of these to restore with my dad. They have them by the pallet. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. Eh... The Gahendras are hit and miss. They have a lap-welded barrel and, like mine, many have what appear to be cracks, inclusions, imperfect welds. Also, if you break a part, you'll have to fit one since they weren't made with mass produced parts. Go for an uncleaned Mk IV if you want an inexpensive Martini that'll be safe to shoot. The Snider-Enfield rifles tend to be in pretty good shape, too. They're also made in Nepal but seem to have been made after they had a taste for industrial production and tend to be shooters. ETA: The Gahendras, while cheap now, WILL go back up in price once they dry up. They didn't make a whole lot of them to begin with and, as such, they used to bring north of $1,000 on the open market. I imagine the same for the Francottes, Sniders and other Nepali made weapons. |
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Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. Eh... The Gahendras are hit and miss. They have a lap-welded barrel and, like mine, many have what appear to be cracks, inclusions, imperfect welds. Also, if you break a part, you'll have to fit one since they weren't made with mass produced parts. Go for an uncleaned Mk IV if you want an inexpensive Martini that'll be safe to shoot. The Snider-Enfield rifles tend to be in pretty good shape, too. They're also made in Nepal but seem to have been made after they had a taste for industrial production and tend to be shooters. ETA: The Gahendras, while cheap now, WILL go back up in price once they dry up. They didn't make a whole lot of them to begin with and, as such, they used to bring north of $1,000 on the open market. I imagine the same for the Francottes, Sniders and other Nepali made weapons. Yes, I've determined the Martini isn't a sufficient enough winter project so a P53 Nepali Enfield is in route. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. Eh... The Gahendras are hit and miss. They have a lap-welded barrel and, like mine, many have what appear to be cracks, inclusions, imperfect welds. Also, if you break a part, you'll have to fit one since they weren't made with mass produced parts. Go for an uncleaned Mk IV if you want an inexpensive Martini that'll be safe to shoot. The Snider-Enfield rifles tend to be in pretty good shape, too. They're also made in Nepal but seem to have been made after they had a taste for industrial production and tend to be shooters. ETA: The Gahendras, while cheap now, WILL go back up in price once they dry up. They didn't make a whole lot of them to begin with and, as such, they used to bring north of $1,000 on the open market. I imagine the same for the Francottes, Sniders and other Nepali made weapons. Yes, I've determined the Martini isn't a sufficient enough winter project so a P53 Nepali Enfield is in route. Shit. If you want a real project, get a Brunswick. Mine was a freak find, mind you. The stock was in solidly in one piece! |
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Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. Eh... The Gahendras are hit and miss. They have a lap-welded barrel and, like mine, many have what appear to be cracks, inclusions, imperfect welds. Also, if you break a part, you'll have to fit one since they weren't made with mass produced parts. Go for an uncleaned Mk IV if you want an inexpensive Martini that'll be safe to shoot. The Snider-Enfield rifles tend to be in pretty good shape, too. They're also made in Nepal but seem to have been made after they had a taste for industrial production and tend to be shooters. ETA: The Gahendras, while cheap now, WILL go back up in price once they dry up. They didn't make a whole lot of them to begin with and, as such, they used to bring north of $1,000 on the open market. I imagine the same for the Francottes, Sniders and other Nepali made weapons. Yeah I can probably afford to get a sub-$200 gun to fix up but the $450 MK IV will be a little too much for me right now. Its really down between the Gahendra and the Francotte. I'd like to be able to shoot whatever one I get. What would you guess the chances are that a Gahendra I would order would be shootable? |
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tag Hey, how's it going man. Been meaning to call you, just been traveling a lot lately. |
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I've considered the 1853 enfield, as I have the stuff to shoot those, but afraid of the work to get it going
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Shit. If you want a real project, get a Brunswick. Mine was a freak find, mind you. The stock was in solidly in one piece! I've looked at some Brunswick restorations, I don't know that I'm up to the challenge yet. Post a pic of yours. |
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if their store is open on Black Friday and they have them there...lets just say I'll be coming back with a half dozen rifles. Pics will follow of course.
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if their store is open on Black Friday and they have them there...lets just say I'll be coming back with a half dozen rifles. Pics will follow of course. Please do. You might mention where the interest and sudden activity came from. |
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Damn that's cool!
I just got a US Krag last month and holding something that's been around for a 100 years or more with a BTDT air about it is pretty cool. |
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...do they have these in their store in Easton??? I'm going back to PA this weekend and I could easily see myself dropping some coin on a few of these to restore with my dad. They do and I'm glad that I live far away, because I could envision myself hand selecting one of each, MKII short lever, P53, Brunswick, Snider, Etc. Awww fuck ya just doomed me into getting one........... |
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Which exact one did you get for this project? I see there are several variations.
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Damn that's cool! I just got a US Krag last month and holding something that's been around for a 100 years or more with a BTDT air about it is pretty cool. It is indeed cool and one of the reasons I want to make the rifle speak as every man who has THAT rifle is dead. (most likely) I just loaded up some ammo for my Krag the other day, no bolt smoother than a Krag. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which one of these should I get if I can only get one and why? http://www.ima-usa.com/m-1878-martini-henry-francotte-pattern-short-lever-infantry-rifle-untouched.html http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html Keep in mind that I am learning Martini rifles as I go. But from what I have read, if you're looking for one to restore and shoot, go for the Gahendra. The Francotte has a damascus barrel and should not be shot. The British Militaria Forum has pages and pages of info on all of the guns at IMA. Eh... The Gahendras are hit and miss. They have a lap-welded barrel and, like mine, many have what appear to be cracks, inclusions, imperfect welds. Also, if you break a part, you'll have to fit one since they weren't made with mass produced parts. Go for an uncleaned Mk IV if you want an inexpensive Martini that'll be safe to shoot. The Snider-Enfield rifles tend to be in pretty good shape, too. They're also made in Nepal but seem to have been made after they had a taste for industrial production and tend to be shooters. ETA: The Gahendras, while cheap now, WILL go back up in price once they dry up. They didn't make a whole lot of them to begin with and, as such, they used to bring north of $1,000 on the open market. I imagine the same for the Francottes, Sniders and other Nepali made weapons. Yeah I can probably afford to get a sub-$200 gun to fix up but the $450 MK IV will be a little too much for me right now. Its really down between the Gahendra and the Francotte. I'd like to be able to shoot whatever one I get. What would you guess the chances are that a Gahendra I would order would be shootable? Get a Gahendra. That'll be your best bet for a shooter at that price. The Francottes are regarded as pipebombs, not rifles. |
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Which exact one did you get for this project? I see there are several variations. British P-1885 MK-IV Long Lever Martini Henry: Untouched. |
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Quoted: Damn that's cool! I just got a US Krag last month and holding something that's been around for a 100 years or more with a BTDT air about it is pretty cool. I've got one of the East India Company muskets. It was made in the early 1840s. They came to Nepal during/after the Sepoy Rebellion in the 1850s. I've shot it. There's nothing like shooting a weapon that's 170 years old. |
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Quoted: Quoted: if their store is open on Black Friday and they have them there...lets just say I'll be coming back with a half dozen rifles. Pics will follow of course. Please do. You might mention where the interest and sudden activity came from. Will do. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: if their store is open on Black Friday and they have them there...lets just say I'll be coming back with a half dozen rifles. Pics will follow of course. Please do. You might mention where the interest and sudden activity came from. Will do. It's even worse when you're on a first-name basis with the guys working at the store. (I live about an hour from Easton... for 12 more hours.) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: if their store is open on Black Friday and they have them there...lets just say I'll be coming back with a half dozen rifles. Pics will follow of course. Please do. You might mention where the interest and sudden activity came from. Will do. It's even worse when you're on a first-name basis with the guys working at the store. (I live about an hour from Easton... for 12 more hours.) ...my folks are 15min away |
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