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Posted: 9/14/2016 10:12:02 AM EDT
The cricket .22 didn't last long for her. With its crappy peep sight and gritty action etc. she can aim and shoot decent for what it is. I want to get her something nicer and put a red dot on it. Maybe the mnp .22lr?  I want her to be able to make hits easier for now and work on safety etc. then when she gets a little older go back to iron sights etc.
   Any other recommendations for a light weight semi auto rifle that would work with a red dot?

Thanks
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 10:24:51 AM EDT
[#1]
If you want strictly a fundamentals-trainer: 10/22 (or Marlin 795) set-up for Appleseed.





You didn't mention her age so those might be a little big for her now, but she'll grow into it and it can stay with her for a lifetime.



EDIT: Eventually, an M&P 15/22 would be a fantastic AR-trainer.





 
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 10:36:13 AM EDT
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If you want strictly a fundamentals-trainer: 10/22 (or Marlin 795) set-up for Appleseed.

You didn't mention her age so those might be a little big for her now, but she'll grow into it and it can stay with her for a lifetime.

EDIT: Eventually, an M&P 15/22 would be a fantastic AR-trainer.

 
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This is great advice.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 11:08:08 AM EDT
[#3]
10/22 with a better trigger installed.   Let her learn the open sites on the 10/22.  Then maybe put on some Tech Sights.  You can go so many places with this to fit it to what she wants.  Different stock, different barrel, etc etc.  

M&P22 is going to be great also, but I'd start with the 10/22, then as she gets into black rifles, do the M&P to start that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 11:40:47 AM EDT
[#4]
10-22 or CZ if she wants to stay with a bolt action.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 11:56:44 AM EDT
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I would second this.... The other poster also had a good point about size but the good thing about the 10/22 is that it has soooooo  many options.

 





At this point i would let her try out a few things to see what she likes






a good base in the fundamentals is key and great job teaching the next generation

 
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 12:00:16 PM EDT
[#6]
10/22 is your answer
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 12:05:31 PM EDT
[#7]
My experience with 10/22s is minimal, but the one I shot had a terrible trigger.

ETA: It was probably 10-15 years old.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 12:10:20 PM EDT
[#8]
Go to your local gun show and pick up a nice Savage Model 6 or Springfield/Stevens Model 87 for $125.  Will kick the living shit out of any modern production 22 rifle.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 1:08:43 PM EDT
[#9]
rossi singleshot, or 10-22. the rossi stock length seems to be a good step in-between a cricket and a 10-22.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 1:24:39 PM EDT
[#10]
CZ Scout.

You can get a bigger stock for the Scout as she grows as well.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 1:32:29 PM EDT
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10-22 or CZ if she wants to stay with a bolt action.
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That's what I'd do, or a Ruger American .22 if you want to grab her a 10/22 later you can use the same mags. ( I believe.)
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 1:40:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks!! I have  a few 10/22s already but they are set up with bull barrels. She loves my ar's that's what made me think of the ar style .22 that and the collapsible stock!   She is only 6 years old!  That's why I thought maybe work on safety and trigger control etc. but let her use a red dot just to get more hits that way it is more fun also! Then when a little bigger I can teach iron sights and it will make more sense.
She has been shooting her cricket with help since 4years old.
Last night all by herself she shot a soda can at 10 yds on the 2 nd try!!! I was impressed. Because the crickets peep sight is very hard to use I think.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 1:44:34 PM EDT
[#13]
I MUCH prefer my m&p 15-22 to my 10/22, both suppressed and unsuppressed.

I would skip the 10-22 and go straight to a 15-22 if it was me.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 2:04:04 PM EDT
[#14]
My son fits his Crickett well now, but it is frustrating for him to load.  I set up a 10/22 that he fits well.   The standard stock and Magpul stock didn't work.  The grip was too far back from the trigger for his little hands.  I went with an aluminum chassis that uses a more vertical AR grip.  The adjustable stock is perfect for him all the way closed and works for me when I open it.  I am looking at a trigger upgrade for it as well.  There is room for improvement there.



I'm going to build another one for me when I get a chance.  



CHRIS
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 2:41:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Lightweight AR with adjustable stock that grows with her and a 22LR conversion.
Did this for my nephew at 10 years and 8 years latter it's still his favorite and he can make it sing.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 2:45:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Savage fv-sr?
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 5:26:24 PM EDT
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If you want strictly a fundamentals-trainer: 10/22 (or Marlin 795) set-up for Appleseed.

You didn't mention her age so those might be a little big for her now, but she'll grow into it and it can stay with her for a lifetime.

EDIT: Eventually, an M&P 15/22 would be a fantastic AR-trainer.

 
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I agree, my son started with a Chipmunk.22 and has graduated to an M&P15/22
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 6:00:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Get her a CZ. It will last forever. Got one for each of my boys and plan on getting a few more for myself.

Link Posted: 9/14/2016 6:33:50 PM EDT
[#19]
17hmr.  If you want a semi, A17
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 6:36:50 PM EDT
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If you want strictly a fundamentals-trainer: 10/22 (or Marlin 795) set-up for Appleseed.

You didn't mention her age so those might be a little big for her now, but she'll grow into it and it can stay with her for a lifetime.

EDIT: Eventually, an M&P 15/22 would be a fantastic AR-trainer.

 
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10-22 with an after market youth stock. Save the adult stock for when she is grown.
Get her to an Appleseed.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 6:43:19 PM EDT
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You want a plinker that will need upgrades to give her the joys of accuracy a 10/22 or 795 will do.

You want her to learn to love accuracy and quality and beauty in a fire arm get her a CZ bolt action.

I own a 10/22 and it shoot pretty good, but nothing like my old Win. M52 B or my Win. M67.

If I was in the market for a .22 these days I'd be looking at CZ bolt action guns.  Beautiful wood on some of those.
Link Posted: 9/15/2016 8:01:16 AM EDT
[#22]
I'd suggest the 10/22 and get the "cheap" trigger job from Brimstone. It's a great improvement and includes the auto bolt release mod, which is tough for kids to manage. Brimstone is cheaper than Ruger BX trigger and much better. I have used a Bushnell trs 25 red dot and its cheap and very good for the money. Simple to use, and very durable. Available for about 70$. Is small and light too.
Link Posted: 9/15/2016 9:47:11 PM EDT
[#23]
When my Daughter outgrew Her Cricket.


I got Her a Marlin 70 Papoose that she loves.



Link Posted: 9/15/2016 10:39:52 PM EDT
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Marlin is running a $25 rebate this month, and I have seen the 795 at $159. You might be able to do better in your area.
Link Posted: 9/17/2016 10:02:37 AM EDT
[#25]
When mine outgrew her Cricket, I put her behind my Marlin 25, with a fixed 4x scope.



Years later, it's still one of her favorite .22s and will sit at the end of the range, shooting mag after mag through it, while declining to shoot more "high-speed" guns.




If you'd prefer a semi, get the 10/22. It's solid, dependable, and reasonably accurate, right out of the box. I do here some complaining about the trigger, but I've never seen the need to replace mine. With the Ruger BX and other aftermarket trigger out there, it's probably a non-issue, really.
Link Posted: 9/17/2016 10:54:04 AM EDT
[#26]
I have a Pink Platinum S&W MP15/22 for my daughters when they outgrow the Cricket. I have several 10/22s but the 15/22 is lighter, has better sights and has an adjustable stock.
Link Posted: 9/17/2016 11:12:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2016 11:29:23 AM EDT
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Marlin 795 or model 60. i have about 4 of them now All are great shooters. The 7000t is a discontinued model to find but it has the heavy barrel and a nice wood laminate adjustable stock great for small kids.
Link Posted: 9/17/2016 4:43:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Not a semi but here is my oldest daughters CZ Scout with a red dot.







 
Link Posted: 9/18/2016 5:09:36 PM EDT
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I'm going with a Browning BL-22 Micro Midas for my 8-year-old. She's shot my Marlin 39A quite a bit and liked it, but the lever throw is a little rough on her still - the Browning has a VERY short throw, which is perfect.

The only problem I have now is that my dad heard about my plan and bought her an older BL-22 that isn't a Micro, and it's damned-near impossible to find the small stock set for it.
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 7:56:58 PM EDT
[#31]
My daughter was in the same boat a couple of years ago, so I handed her my Marlin 795........ I never got it back :).
We all consider it hers now, even though it lives in my safe. The Cricket is tucked WAAAAAAY in the back. It led to her wanting a 22 pistol, so I got her a Walther P22 last year............ Lots of options out there!
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 9:57:39 PM EDT
[#32]
I would do the 10/22 if you want the accuracy. The 15/22 is a fun plinker but was never designed for driving tacks. If I get 1.5-2" groups out of mine at 50 I'm happy. My 10/22 did 1/2" groups at 50 right out of the box. Plus, there is no limit to the mods you can do to it. Or, like many would say on here, get both!
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:32:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Went with the mnp 15/22 already have a few 10/22s. So far she loves it!
Thanks for the replies!
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 2:14:03 PM EDT
[#34]
I got my girls Browning .22 semiautos.  The bottom eject is nice for both right and left handed folks.

The Browning is a bit Fuddish, but it is a nice rifle.
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 2:38:07 PM EDT
[#35]
I would go with one of those 10/22 anniversary models with the adjustable stock and the receiver sights. You'll be able to get the short LOP stock piece and it already has a good set of irons.

Or skip and get an Mp15-22.
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 6:15:18 PM EDT
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I am not fond of 10/22's.  The trigger is poor, plus I would prefer not t teach kids to shot with a semiautomatic.  It is difficult at best to get a kid to take their time and make every shot count.  Just give up if it is a semi...  I have 3, the only one with a good trigger is so customized that the only thing Rugar is the magazine.



The CZ cadet is not created equal to other cz's.  I like cz a lot.  The cadet not so much.  I think I have 5 cz's, the cadet is the only one I don't like.




The Savage target rifle is great for the price, but not the right size for a 10 year old girl.  14-15 maybe.




I have a small 9 year old son, and have little clue what to have him shoot.  Was going to get a Stevens Model 30 for fun, but they are 5 years out of production.  Might get a savage little rifle, accutrigger is generally good.  Wish Anshultz still made the Achiever.  They are rarer than hens teeth now.
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 6:53:30 PM EDT
[#37]
50 cal.... or 5.56 with lighter loads?
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 8:37:42 PM EDT
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Lightweight AR with adjustable stock that grows with her and a 22LR conversion.
Did this for my nephew at 10 years and 8 years latter it's still his favorite and he can make it sing.
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This is what I would suggest or if you built a dedicated 22lr, PSA has complete 5.56 uppers you could put a side for the future...
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 11:44:40 PM EDT
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Depends what you are after.  I have an sbr with a 22 upper.  I can not imagine it out shooting a good traditional rifle in an unsupported possition.  Off a bag, it might do as well.  It might even have a better trigger.  But barrel length and weight gives a traditional rifle an and vantage due to physics.  Long and heavie wobbles slower.
 





The issue I have with the CZ cadet is the trigger is not as nice as the full sized CZ 22 triggers, and it has an odd front sight slot.  Probably going to play arround with a savage cub next.  I think (not sure) that the newer rascal comes tapped for a scope base rather than slotted for a 3/8 tilt on mount.


 
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Looked at a Rascal today, maybe a Lyman 1" receiver base would let me put a decent apature on it, but as it is, no 3/8" will fit.  




Small bore Gods smiled on me, came home with an Anshultz Achiever.  Possible best (reasonably priced) target rifle for the next size up (10-14 year olds) ever made.  So It cost 2x blue book. I have been wanting one for 10 years and 2 kids, still have 3 to go for it.
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