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Posted: 7/8/2015 6:05:04 PM EDT
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FVSR and without any hesitation. There are 5 between me and my friends and no regrets. Very accurate, reliable, and the accutrigger is acceptable.
You will need to get a stock pack so you can have the right height for a scoped rifle, unless you are replacing the stock. The stock pack I use has zippered compartment for storing extra mags as well. Depending on the height of your mount you may need extra shims. The stock really is the worst part of the rifle because the drop on it is for iron sights, which clearly this rifle does not have. This is the one I use. Triad Stock Pack Cons If you must have a butter smooth bolt you will not like the Savage. It feeds every time so it does not bother me. If you like to sling it and move around a lot in it the mag will drive you crazy cutting up your back and side. It seems every edge is sharp or pointed. I have taken a dremel to some and rigged up a neoprene sleeve as well. I rarely have mine on a sling so it was not a deal breaker for me. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:37:09 PM EDT
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I used to have the Savage FVSR. I now have a Ruger American Rimfire. I like the Ruger better. Fit and finish on the Ruger is better and the mag design is leaps and bounds ahead of the Savage. The Savage edges out the Ruger in the trigger department and MAY be a little more accurate, but I haven't shot the Ruger as much yet. The factory Ruger polymer stock is WAAAY better than the factory Savage polymer stock but you can get a Boyd's (great South Dakota company) for either.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 8:25:52 AM EDT
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If you want to shoot paper or some such then the Savage as it's a tad more accurate.
If you want to hunt or just be out and about with a moderated .22 rifle then the Ruger win hands-down. The Savage has a mag and mag release that pokes at you in the field and holds fewer rounds. Savage mags are also much more prone to feed lip damage. I squirrel hunted with the Savage for a season then sold the Savage after a season of squirrel hunting with the Ruger. It was not even a contest. I only wish the Ruger would have been available for a host before the Savage. 
I bought the RAR carbine and had it threaded/recrowned. I bought before the threaded version was available. 
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Posted: 7/9/2015 9:35:12 AM EDT
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I have the following Savage rifles- two of the standard MK II's, two FVSR's and a Mk II BTVS. I also have a pair of the Ruger All Americans. The Savages shoot a little better but the Ruger is a much friendlier rifle to shoot...the Ruger magazines are superior and the general feel of the rifle is much better, the Savages feel cheap and clunky by comparison. I prefer the Rugers over the Savages.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 10:52:02 AM EDT
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I've had both, and while the Savage is a nice rifle, the Ruger is a better buy. Most bought the Savage as a host because it was cheap, and there was almost nothing else available at the time. Now that Ruger has a threaded bolt gun, it's a simple choice. The Ruger is more refined, it's still inexpensive, and the magazine alone makes it a no brainer.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:54:56 AM EDT
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Went with ruger
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Posted: 7/9/2015 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Faced with the same choice, I bought the Savage, and was not disappointed.
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Posted: 7/12/2015 8:19:09 AM EDT
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I want a bolt action 22 and have narrowed it down to these two. Which one should I fo one and why The Savage is much cheaper Just realized the one I want, fv-sr, is the same price as the American so I am leaning towards the Mark II... Is the american worth the extra 100 bucks I would prefer a gun with a bull barrel What model would you use ? Thanks in advanced guys Here are a couple of videos I did looking at the differences. They are both excellent choices, but very different guns. I try to show the differences and similarities. Hope this helps you decide which one is right for you. mbell556 https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk https://youtu.be/VsascbSRK20 |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 9:47:24 AM EDT
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I just bought one of each. The Savage was much cheaper, considering the threaded muzzle. Don't care for the magazine, though.
Lgs had a sale on the Mark II for $224 yesterday, while it cost me $100 for the gunsmith to thread my RAR ($300 or so). |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 9:52:07 AM EDT
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I just bought one of each. The Savage was much cheaper, considering the threaded muzzle. Don't care for the magazine, though. Lgs had a sale on the Mark II for $224 yesterday, while it cost me $100 for the gunsmith to thread my RAR ($300 or so). I got my RAR 8334, has a better bolt knob,threaded and, slightly thicker barrel for 270… so I think I did well But it definitely was a challenge to track down |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 9:55:34 AM EDT
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Here are a couple of videos I did looking at the differences. They are both excellent choices, but very different guns. I try to show the differences and similarities. Hope this helps you decide which one is right for you. mbell556 https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk https://youtu.be/VsascbSRK20 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want a bolt action 22 and have narrowed it down to these two. Which one should I fo one and why The Savage is much cheaper Just realized the one I want, fv-sr, is the same price as the American so I am leaning towards the Mark II... Is the american worth the extra 100 bucks I would prefer a gun with a bull barrel What model would you use ? Thanks in advanced guys Here are a couple of videos I did looking at the differences. They are both excellent choices, but very different guns. I try to show the differences and similarities. Hope this helps you decide which one is right for you. mbell556 https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk https://youtu.be/VsascbSRK20 Thanks mbell, You videos are great, after watching them I chose the ruger for the stock and magazine The acuracy seemed very similar with the savage having a slight edge… close enough for me as this is my first bolt gun I'll eventually fall into the arfcom trap of "get both" and pick up a savage next year |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:08:11 AM EDT
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OP you misspelled CZ 452.
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:08:34 AM EDT
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OP you misspelled CZ 452. Lol |
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Posted: 7/12/2015 12:09:42 PM EDT
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I went with the RAR Sports South Exclusive (model 8334) also.. Decent trigger, comes with a threaded barrel and I have a ton of 10/22 mags already.
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Posted: 7/12/2015 12:10:14 PM EDT
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DT....
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:00:57 PM EDT
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Can one of you confirm the threads on the RAR 8305/8306/8334 models are .400" long? I thought I read that somewhere but can't find it, and figured those that had them in hand could verify.
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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:56:44 PM EDT
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Can one of you confirm the threads on the RAR 8305/8306/8334 models are .400" long? I thought I read that somewhere but can't find it, and figured those that had them in hand could verify. Thanks. It should be .4 as ruger changed all there threads for 22 to .4 a year or so ago There is a guy in this thread that said his RAR is .4 http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-552951.html Maybe someone can verify |
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Posted: 7/14/2015 2:24:57 AM EDT
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I really don't see any contest here. Other than MAYBE a slight accuracy edge to the Savage I'd go Ruger. No need to change the stock. I can't believe Savage sells these with those stocks.
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Posted: 7/14/2015 8:02:01 AM EDT
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Can one of you confirm the threads on the RAR 8305/8306/8334 models are .400" long? I thought I read that somewhere but can't find it, and figured those that had them in hand could verify. Thanks. Confirmed - mine is .4" long, unlike my slightly older 10/22 TD that has the .6" threads. Bob S. |
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Posted: 7/14/2015 10:25:57 PM EDT
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel?
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Posted: 7/14/2015 10:28:36 PM EDT
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? Unfortunately No |
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Posted: 7/15/2015 6:37:31 PM EDT
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Hmm now that they make the Ruger with a threaded barrel I might end up buying that instead of a FV-SR. How good/bad are the stock sights on the Ruger? It's been 10 years since I shot a 10/22 and I don't remember much about it other than I didn't really care for it.
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Posted: 7/16/2015 12:27:44 AM EDT
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Hmm now that they make the Ruger with a threaded barrel I might end up buying that instead of a FV-SR. How good/bad are the stock sights on the Ruger? It's been 10 years since I shot a 10/22 and I don't remember much about it other than I didn't really care for it. The Williams fiber optic front sight is pretty good. A little big but definitely usable. I prefer it over the stock front sight on the 10/22. The rear sight is the same as on the 10/22, but is adjustable for windage and elevation supposedly. |
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Posted: 7/16/2015 12:47:19 AM EDT
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I bought the savage a while back in anticipation of running suppressed down the road. All this time it sits in the closet and then the Ruger comes out. I will be selling it and getting a ruger. My main reason is the mags but the overall feel and specifically the stock feel better to me on the ruger.
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Posted: 7/16/2015 12:48:43 AM EDT
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? You can come pretty close price wise if you buy a unthreaded gun and have it threaded. It is tempting for sure but my cheap ass will probably just buy the 18" |
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Posted: 7/16/2015 7:28:56 AM EDT
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You can come pretty close price wise if you buy a unthreaded gun and have it threaded. It is tempting for sure but my cheap ass will probably just buy the 18" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? You can come pretty close price wise if you buy a unthreaded gun and have it threaded. It is tempting for sure but my cheap ass will probably just buy the 18" I know... I just want to buy a gun ready to use for once. I customize just about every gun I own, a lot of them even before I fire a round. |
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Posted: 7/16/2015 8:48:31 AM EDT
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That's ok I customize them and then Don't shoot them
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Posted: 7/16/2015 9:41:34 AM EDT
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First world problems...
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Posted: 7/17/2015 9:31:06 AM EDT
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? The threaded Ruger barrel is 18" but I was surprised that the velocities were slower in the longer barrel of the Ruger compared to the Savage. So if that is the concern it is not a problem. I does make it slightly less compact. https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk |
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Posted: 7/17/2015 4:57:17 PM EDT
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The threaded Ruger barrel is 18" but I was surprised that the velocities were slower in the longer barrel of the Ruger compared to the Savage. So if that is the concern it is not a problem. I does make it slightly less compact. https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? The threaded Ruger barrel is 18" but I was surprised that the velocities were slower in the longer barrel of the Ruger compared to the Savage. So if that is the concern it is not a problem. I does make it slightly less compact. https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk Yeah most 22 maxes out right in that 14-18" range. I just wanted 16" because it is more compact. |
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Posted: 7/17/2015 8:50:28 PM EDT
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Yeah most 22 maxes out right in that 14-18" range. I just wanted 16" because it is more compact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? The threaded Ruger barrel is 18" but I was surprised that the velocities were slower in the longer barrel of the Ruger compared to the Savage. So if that is the concern it is not a problem. I does make it slightly less compact. https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk Yeah most 22 maxes out right in that 14-18" range. I just wanted 16" because it is more compact. Me too... |
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Posted: 7/23/2015 7:16:48 PM EDT
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Can the ruger be cut/threaded to 16" and still use the iron sights if the sights are relocated?
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Posted: 7/23/2015 7:20:30 PM EDT
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I'm sure any good gunsmith can do this for you but is it worth the $150-$200 to have this done on a $300 rifle? Keep the Ruger and use the extra $$$ to buy the Savage too!
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Can the ruger be cut/threaded to 16" and still use the iron sights if the sights are relocated? |
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Posted: 7/23/2015 11:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately No Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? No But TBA does (and others). Integrally-suppressed...  On the 77/22:  |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:55:12 AM EDT
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But TBA does (and others). Integrally-suppressed... http://www.tbasuppressors.com/assets/images/blog/ruger22suppressor.png On the 77/22:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLzm38vuOQ
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Does Ruger make the American with a 16" threaded barrel? No But TBA does (and others). Integrally-suppressed... http://www.tbasuppressors.com/assets/images/blog/ruger22suppressor.png On the 77/22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLzm38vuOQ
That's pretty nifty. I never thought I'd want a integral but a dedicated gun is making more and more sense to me. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 5:11:26 PM EDT
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I have been looking at the GemTec Mistic...
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:21:45 AM EDT
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I have been looking at the GemTec Mistic... I have one in jail right now. I's going to be installed on a PWS T3 Summit receiver / trigger package that is on order. The T3 has a backlog of about 2-3 months right now. I shot a Mist on my SOT's personal 10-22. Extremely quite. Action noise is louder that the shot.
Back on topic But I have a Savage MKII with factory laminated stock. Great trigger. I've had this around 4 or 5 years now. Back when I bought this, they didn't have factory threaded barrels. (Or I didn't know if they did) I had JP Grips in Pelican Rapids , Minnesota thread it for suppressor use. This rifle is a tack driver at 50yds or less. Normal ranges I use it at around the house for vermin control. . I know nothing about the RAR, but Ruger's magazine is a better choice over my Savage's. Picture of Savage to follow. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:25:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:53:05 AM EDT
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I have been looking at the GemTec Mistic... Waiting on the damned government to let me have mine... Actually shouldn't be too much longer, inshallah. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Here are a couple of videos I did looking at the differences. They are both excellent choices, but very different guns. I try to show the differences and similarities. Hope this helps you decide which one is right for you. mbell556 https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk https://youtu.be/VsascbSRK20 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want a bolt action 22 and have narrowed it down to these two. Which one should I fo one and why The Savage is much cheaper Just realized the one I want, fv-sr, is the same price as the American so I am leaning towards the Mark II... Is the american worth the extra 100 bucks I would prefer a gun with a bull barrel What model would you use ? Thanks in advanced guys Here are a couple of videos I did looking at the differences. They are both excellent choices, but very different guns. I try to show the differences and similarities. Hope this helps you decide which one is right for you. mbell556 https://youtu.be/kLNC2TVFMxk https://youtu.be/VsascbSRK20 mbell, I like your videos. Very informative and well done. I have had the Savage FV-SR for a couple of years and I am very happy with it. I do like the fluted barrel, the scope rail and the bolt handle. After watching your videos, showing the features of the Ruger, I like the stock and the 10/22 style magazine. I have a couple of 10/22's, so I already have a bunch of mags for them and I do like that I could use the same mags for the Ruger American. |
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