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Posted: 7/11/2012 9:51:49 PM

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This happened today to my MKlll with Remington Subsonics. I've never seen a 22 case do this before, had to pull it out with needle nose pliers.

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Posted: 7/11/2012 9:59:07 PM
Thats a first for me.
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Posted: 7/11/2012 10:00:13 PM
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I've had quite a few remington 22's do that...that's why I no longer use them/ Remington 22's seem to have the thinnest brass which can cause the splits in the cases and/or extraction problems in certain guns.

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Posted: 7/11/2012 10:59:24 PM
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....
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Posted: 7/11/2012 11:02:42 PM
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....


Yeop, Remington makes shitty 22 ammo.
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Posted: 7/11/2012 11:20:46 PM
Yup a few Remington have done the same to me.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 7:14:21 AM
Originally Posted By Hawcer:
I've had quite a few remington 22's do that...that's why I no longer use them/ Remington 22's seem to have the thinnest brass which can cause the splits in the cases and/or extraction problems in certain guns.



This has most frequently happened to me with Remington cases as well.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 11:55:13 AM
I understand that Remington may not make the best ammo for 22LR, but what about the fact that it was a Sub-Sonic? Wouldn't that mean that it should be down-loaded compared to regular 22LR? If that's the case, then how can a low-power round split a case like that?
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Posted: 7/12/2012 12:03:36 PM
My guess is just a metallurgical failure due to impure brass. I've had that happen on one or more of my rimfires (don't recall the brand) as well as the entire rim coming off the case body.

I wouldn't stress over it, I'd just keep away from Remington as everyone suggests, IMO.

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Posted: 7/12/2012 12:35:29 PM
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Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
I understand that Remington may not make the best ammo for 22LR, but what about the fact that it was a Sub-Sonic? Wouldn't that mean that it should be down-loaded compared to regular 22LR? If that's the case, then how can a low-power round split a case like that?


Subsonic doesn't necessarily always mean reduced pressure...many factors can be changed to produce a subsonic round....powder type, case length, bullet weight,etc.

Chambers on the larger size or that have more "feed ramp" will more often have this issue since it allows the case to expand that much more....probably not so much in a tighter,match chamber.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 12:38:45 PM
Originally Posted By Hawcer:
Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
I understand that Remington may not make the best ammo for 22LR, but what about the fact that it was a Sub-Sonic? Wouldn't that mean that it should be down-loaded compared to regular 22LR? If that's the case, then how can a low-power round split a case like that?


Subsonic doesn't necessarily always mean reduced pressure...many factors can be changed to produce a subsonic round....powder type, case length, bullet weight,etc.


Exactly. Sub sonic just means the projectile is going around the mid 1000 fps mark. Its not like sub sonic loads are like Super Colibri rounds.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 1:13:09 PM
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....


Yeop, Remington makes shitty 22 ammo.


No doubt about that.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 3:22:39 PM
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....


Yeop, Remington makes shitty 22 ammo.


+1

Never have used more fucked up ammo in my life.

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Posted: 7/12/2012 10:03:33 PM
It could have been worse. I kept having case rims on Remington .22 blow out - about 1/3 of the case just above the rim would fail. Finally one of them did a complete case head separation and left the rest of the casing stuck in the chamber.

Like others have said, Remington .22 ammo is problematic.
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Posted: 7/15/2012 8:26:49 PM
Had it happen once, many years ago, with a Winchester 190. Case looked identical to that and lots of powder in the receiver area. Scared the shite out of me.
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Posted: 7/15/2012 11:23:41 PM
I had a guy give me 4 bricks of Remington Thunderbolts once at the range, said his rifle just didnt like them. The first four out of the box were all misfires, grabbed another box and got a couple to shoot, one sounded like a squib load, checked the barrel to make sure it made it out the barrel, the third round it split the case and I had to get it out with my pocket knife. The guy that gave them to me was gone so I turned around and gave the rest to two guys shooting down the bench from me and wished them luck!
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Posted: 7/16/2012 12:25:45 AM
Had two in the last year, one was like yours with the cracked case side. The other was a blowout of the rim. Both Remington.

Never had another .22 case like that.
I did recently have a .30-40 Krag neck delaminate, almost like the neck was a wound flat sheet of metal unwinding off a dowel. Also made by you guessed it, Remington! The defect was not visible or felt on loading the bullet into the case. It was obvious after firing.

Frankly I think all the makers are making a cheaper product to keep their margins up. AA shotgun hulls are no where near what they were 15-20 years ago. The UMC brass in .30-40 Krag from the 50's weighed about 40 grains more than the new RP brass. That's a huge loss of metal in my book.
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Posted: 7/16/2012 12:27:33 AM
Originally Posted By ShootnNut:
I had a guy give me 4 bricks of Remington Thunderbolts once at the range, said his rifle just didnt like them. The first four out of the box were all misfires, grabbed another box and got a couple to shoot, one sounded like a squib load, checked the barrel to make sure it made it out the barrel, the third round it split the case and I had to get it out with my pocket knife. The guy that gave them to me was gone so I turned around and gave the rest to two guys shooting down the bench from me and wished them luck!


Is this the human version of putting peanut butter inside a kong ball and giving it to the dog. Total frustration.
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Posted: 7/16/2012 1:57:47 AM
I suspected Remington ammo from the thread title, the picture confirmed it, all before I read the post to see he mentioned the ammo. I've had this happen quite a few times in my 10/22 and Marlin XT22TR, I had the ammo laying around and was going plinking so I decided to get rid of what I had left. I have no intentions of ever buying remington ammo again, I'll stick with CCI for my 22's.
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Posted: 8/19/2012 8:25:54 PM
I have had several split cases in .22lr. All old worse for wear remington golden el cheapo bullets. They've only caused an issue in my heritage rough rider revolver, required much more force on the ejection rod to remove the casing.
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Posted: 8/19/2012 11:32:16 PM
Originally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....


Yeop, Remington makes shitty 22 ammo.


+1

Never have used more fucked up ammo in my life.



Yep, it was garbage 40 years ago when my father taught me to shoot and it hasn't improved. You'd think that after DECADES of having a reputation for producing the worst rimfire ammo available, Remington might at least make an attempt at pulling their heads out of their asses and get with the program, but I suppose not.
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Posted: 8/20/2012 5:59:03 PM
I'll never buy Remington 22LR ammo again. I had a brick of Thunderbolts that were absolutely nasty. They threw powder out of the ejection port that was still burning about 60% of the time. Had little speckles of powder burns all over my right hand.
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Posted: 8/20/2012 7:57:48 PM
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Another reason to support why I have a brick of thunderbolt and ~300rd GB that I don't plan on ever shooting unless I'm doing failure drills in a crappy gun.

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Posted: 8/23/2012 12:09:16 AM
Seen this a few times before. Obviously didnt notice until after the fact. No damage resulted from.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 8:54:08 AM
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Another Remington .22 round failure? Honestly, I saw this thread and said to myself "Oh another Remington .22lr round messed up" before I even opened it.



This is my shocked face....


Yeop, Remington makes shitty 22 ammo.


THIS!!!!!
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Posted: 8/24/2012 5:02:12 PM
Guess this is why so many gun makers tell you, 'Do not shoot Remington ammunition in this firearm".
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