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Posted: 4/23/2012 3:27:19 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022BLK 
Best of all.... Not made by red jacket 
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/23/2012 6:19:26 PM
I just got off the phone with High Tower, I will be getting one of their kits as well as the RJ one. I haven't been this excited for .22 in quite some time.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 6:34:29 PM
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
I just got off the phone with High Tower, I will be getting one of their kits as well as the RJ one. I haven't been this excited for .22 in quite some time. You are the man! A comparison is a must. What is the timeframe for the High Tower? |
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/23/2012 6:56:11 PM
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
I just got off the phone with High Tower, I will be getting one of their kits as well as the RJ one. I haven't been this excited for .22 in quite some time. You are the man! A comparison is a must. What is the timeframe for the High Tower? Still up in the air. I asked to be a tester but they are past that stage. He's thinking a month or two. |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 10:22:49 AM
"The HTA 90/22 also features a CNC machined monolithic aluminum Picatinny optics rail and aluminum bedding block"
This looks like an improvement. I believe the RJF stock has a plastic rail? I wouldn't buy from RJF so it's nice to have a better choice for the same/cheaper price. |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 1:55:28 PM
Hey Guys!
Thanks for your interest and kindness! Every litlle bit helps! We certainly don't have the marketing and star power that Red Jacket has, so you guys are awesome! Please keep it up! If you have any questions at all, please don't hestitate to email or call! We'd be happy to answer any questions. Thanks again! |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 2:24:57 PM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Hey Guys! Thanks for your interest and kindness! Every litlle bit helps! We certainly don't have the marketing and star power that Red Jacket has, so you guys are awesome! Please keep it up! If you have any questions at all, please don't hestitate to email or call! We'd be happy to answer any questions. Thanks again! When do you expect to release them? Do you have any videos? |
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/24/2012 2:34:20 PM
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Hey Guys! Thanks for your interest and kindness! Every litlle bit helps! We certainly don't have the marketing and star power that Red Jacket has, so you guys are awesome! Please keep it up! If you have any questions at all, please don't hestitate to email or call! We'd be happy to answer any questions. Thanks again! When do you expect to release them? Do you have any videos? Or other pics |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 4:09:30 PM
We are probably about 1-2 months from shipping but if everything goes right, maybe under 4 weeks. As far as pics go or vids, any speciic things you would like to cover? Thanks!
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/24/2012 4:11:47 PM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
We are probably about 1-2 months from shipping but if everything goes right, maybe under 4 weeks. As far as pics go or vids, any speciic things you would like to cover? Thanks! Pics of both sides, maybe one of the inside showing how everything fits in there. As far as video maybe one with the shell open showing how the trigger linkage works, maybe shoot a mag and do a mag change and shoot another mag. |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 4:46:49 PM
I'll have pics up soon- on our site and some on bullpupforum.com. I'll have images of both sides, and one with the dummy suppressor on and a BX-25 mag in the well.
A good quality video will take some time but I'll do my best to have you guys something soon. We also want just a little more of a time buffer too, before we get really specific on design... Don't want to go handing out the Colonel's recipe before the chicken is fried so to speak. Keep checking our site. More images soon! Thanks a ton guys! |
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/24/2012 4:53:08 PM
Dont worry about pics and vids if its going to slow down production!!!!
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Posted: 4/24/2012 5:45:03 PM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
I'll have pics up soon- on our site and some on bullpupforum.com. I'll have images of both sides, and one with the dummy suppressor on and a BX-25 mag in the well. A good quality video will take some time but I'll do my best to have you guys something soon. We also want just a little more of a time buffer too, before we get really specific on design... Don't want to go handing out the Colonel's recipe before the chicken is fried so to speak. Keep checking our site. More images soon! Thanks a ton guys! How does the trigger work? Can you use a stock 10/22 trigger? Aftermarket? |
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/24/2012 5:51:14 PM
[Last Edit: 4/24/2012 6:00:12 PM by jeffco55]
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
I'll have pics up soon- on our site and some on bullpupforum.com. I'll have images of both sides, and one with the dummy suppressor on and a BX-25 mag in the well. A good quality video will take some time but I'll do my best to have you guys something soon. We also want just a little more of a time buffer too, before we get really specific on design... Don't want to go handing out the Colonel's recipe before the chicken is fried so to speak. Keep checking our site. More images soon! Thanks a ton guys! How does the trigger work? Can you use a stock 10/22 trigger? Aftermarket? Im just going to replace what I wrote with their description from another site Our trigger linkage is also steel for minimal flex and features a selector that allows for 5 different amounts of trigger "take-up". That is to say, each 10/22 and each 90/22 trigger rod has slightly different lengths (which may result in a gap between link and ruger trigger), so we include another part that allows that difference to be minimized, or eliminated. The end result is that when you pull the trigger, you are immediately putting pressure on the actual 10/22 trigger, instead of just pushing the rod until it contacts the real 10/22 trigger. |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 6:38:26 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself Jeff!
 That's exactly right, the trigger is connected with a steel rod and a take-up selector which helps keep a nice crisp feel. It should work with virtually every single trigger on the market. Keep the questions coming guys, we love it! Thanks again Jeff! |
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jeffco55
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Posted: 4/24/2012 8:03:11 PM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Couldn't have said it better myself Jeff! That's exactly right, the trigger is connected with a steel rod and a take-up selector which helps keep a nice crisp feel. It should work with virtually every single trigger on the market. Keep the questions coming guys, we love it! Thanks again Jeff!Put me at the front of the line!!  |
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Posted: 4/24/2012 8:41:22 PM
Now this I will shellout for. Red jackets Meh.
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Posted: 4/25/2012 5:12:38 AM
Well, dangit. I knew I shouldn't of opened this thread.
I've been thinking of selling my 10/22 ever since I bought an M&P15/22....I just might hold onto it now.  |
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Posted: 4/25/2012 4:56:54 PM
Hmmm interesting. I could buy one and put my leftover fake suppressor from my Archangel Nomad kit on a standard barrel 18" 10/22. Hmmm
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Posted: 4/26/2012 12:38:07 AM
Looks great, except for those 25 round mags, which look strange and out of place.
But does your conversion work?? As in 100%, zero issues with performance, no jams. And no troublesome fitting/filling to make the gun fit the stock, or stock being too loose. Also very curious about your trigger quality, that seems to be Achilles heel of most bullpups, If you can pull it all off that would be impressive. Waiting for reviews. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:03:02 AM
Thanks for the great compliment and questions!
Yes, it is true the ps90 doesn't use bottom loading banana mags, but when you're firing it, you don't see it anyway
This stock kit is fully functioning, designed from the ground up for use with the 10/22 rifle so fit is perfect. To give a good tight fit, aside from being designed to house the 10/22, our kit comes complete with a machined aluminum bedding block to anchor the 10/22 via the takedown screw to the stock. Any performance issues or jams will boil down to the condition of your 10/22 and the quality of mags you intend to use. The stock will have no bearing on how ammunition feeds, or doesn't feed if using poor quality equipment in the guts of your gun. Trigger linkage is solid steel. Virtually zero flex. The result is great power transmission from front to rear, unlike the plastic links that have destroyed so many other reputations. Our link is also adjustable to remove any take-up caused by a gap between linkage and trigger. Let me know if you have any other concerns/comments! Thanks! |
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TheTacticalCoyote
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:19:11 AM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Trigger linkage is solid steel. Virtually zero flex. The result is great power transmission from front to rear, unlike the plastic links that have destroyed so many other reputations. Our link is also adjustable to remove any take-up caused by a gap between linkage and trigger. Let me know if you have any other concerns/comments! Thanks! Are there any issues with this causing bump firing? |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:30:35 AM
Great safety question! No bump firing isn't an issue at all, this take up selector will not put pressure on the trigger, it merely eliminates any gap between the two.
Some inferior bullpups will not bring that extension as tight as possible to the real trigger, resulting in a small (or large) amount of "space" you must pull the trigger through to make contact with the real trigger. Our design simply eliminates that space, creating a consistent, fluid trigger pull. To bump fire, you need the trigger to "reset", that is the trigger must return to home position before being depressed and fired again. So at the end of the day, a bump fire is just as improbable on the 90/22 as any stand alone 10/22. Safety was among our most primary concerns and we went to great lengths to ensure all our users have a safe and enjoyable shooting session. Great question- I hope that answers it for you! Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:33:53 AM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Great safety question! No bump firing isn't an issue at all, this take up selector will not put pressure on the trigger, it merely eliminates any gap between the two. Some inferior bullpups will not bring that extension as tight as possible to the real trigger, resulting in a small (or large) amount of "space" you must pull the trigger through to make contact with the real trigger. Our design simply eliminates that space, creating a consistent, fluid trigger pull. To bump fire, you need the trigger to "reset", that is the trigger must return to home position before being depressed and fired again. So at the end of the day, a bump fire is just as improbable on the 90/22 as any stand alone 10/22. Safety was among our most primary concerns and we went to great lengths to ensure all our users have a safe and enjoyable shooting session. Great question- I hope that answers it for you! Thanks! It sure does, thanks! |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:45:35 AM
Originally Posted By HighTowerArmory:
Great safety question! No bump firing isn't an issue at all, this take up selector will not put pressure on the trigger, it merely eliminates any gap between the two. Some inferior bullpups will not bring that extension as tight as possible to the real trigger, resulting in a small (or large) amount of "space" you must pull the trigger through to make contact with the real trigger. Our design simply eliminates that space, creating a consistent, fluid trigger pull. To bump fire, you need the trigger to "reset", that is the trigger must return to home position before being depressed and fired again. So at the end of the day, a bump fire is just as improbable on the 90/22 as any stand alone 10/22. Safety was among our most primary concerns and we went to great lengths to ensure all our users have a safe and enjoyable shooting session. Great question- I hope that answers it for you! Thanks! I asked in another 90/22 thread but I figure I'll ask here too. I was curious if you could make a 13" barrel with a 5" perm attached shroud like this one here http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/category/ruger-rifles/ruger-rifle-accessories/ruger-rifle-barrel-upgrades But at 18" OAL instead of 16" That way your suppressor could fit inside without adding length. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 9:20:04 AM
Hey jh1990,
Sorry we missed your earlier question. Ok here's the deal: Because our stock has an extension to allow the attachment of the dummy suppressor, your fake can would be just a hair shy of making it into the stock. But there's good news! I think we could do something in our custom shop for you. We'd simply machine off that front suppressor mounting area for you before we ship it (you won't need to use our dummy suppressor with a fake suppressor anyhow). Then, a 13" barrel with a 5" perm can will fit great and look even better. If this is something you'd want to do, or anyone who reads this post, please send us an email BEFORE purchasing a stock. We'll then reply with instructions on what to do next. Depending on how much machining it takes to get a nice finished look, and how much demand there is for them, we may be able to offer custom services like this at a very ompetitive price. For all your help in generating buzz jh1990, if you were to order just the regular stock and one ot these custom stocks happens to accidentally get packed in your box, we'd have to let you keep it.... Let me know what you want to do! Thanks! |
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