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Radiopat
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Posted: 2/15/2012 8:29:14 PM
I saw a YouTube where a Slide Fire stock was fitted to a M&P 15/22 and it worked perfectly in the video.
The presenter said he had replaced the stock trigger group with a CMC trigger. Well I thought this would
be good for shits and giggles so I ordered the parts.

I really like the rifle but I just spent all day trying to master this sliding stock. The most I could get it to run was
3 or 4 rounds at a time. I estimate that I shot a couple of bricks worth of shells today trying to make it work. I tried all kinds of various brands and velocities and I've come to the conclusion that this does not work on the .22. At least the one I've got doesn't.

I'm sure the recoil of a 5.56 is sufficient to operate this thing but the rimfire just doesn't cut it.

I tried it open as well as suppressed and it was no different.

If anyone has tried this and figured out how to run it please reply. If not, I'm going to shit can this thing and
order a Magpul as I destroyed the damn stock that came with the rifle in getting it off.

By the way I wasn't impressed with the CMC trigger either. Rock River Arms kicks their ass for about the same money.

So all I have to show for this day is raw fingers from loading magazines.
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Posted: 2/16/2012 2:31:33 PM
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Yeah sorry to hear that but when I read the title of your post I said "no way that would work".

Maybe if the gun weighed 3 lbs or less, the 22 recoil might work in a slide fire application.

Have a link to the vid?
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Posted: 2/16/2012 5:12:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F8Z5ooMZpY


Haven't figured out how to hotlink.
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Posted: 2/16/2012 5:19:27 PM


You just have to click the film thing by the picture and weblink buttons.
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Posted: 2/16/2012 6:15:59 PM
Ah...so he lightened up the trigger to 2-3 lbs....
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Posted: 2/16/2012 6:23:24 PM
Yes but the CMC trigger is supposed to be 3.2 lbs. I think I've been duped and feel pretty
stupid about it. Oh well, it isn't the first time.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 5:46:51 AM
I put a Slide Fire stock and a CMC trigger on mine It workes great I am using CCI AR Tactical ammunition. My Smith does not have a threaded barrel.
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Posted: 2/17/2012 8:58:17 AM
That sucks. I was thinking of getting a slide fire and a M& P15/22 just for that purpose.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 1:57:56 AM
I saw that EXACT video and was going to blow the $ and collect the parts. . . . OP this might be one of the most beneficial posts I've ever read on ARF. I usually have to figure these things out the hard way.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 2:01:21 PM
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Yes but the CMC trigger is supposed to be 3.2 lbs. I think I've been duped and feel pretty
stupid about it. Oh well, it isn't the first time.



What ammo were you running? Any chance you need to put a lil less/more forward pressure on the forearm?
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Posted: 2/19/2012 1:12:41 AM
I used a Geiselle S3G trigger and VERY LIGHTLY sanded the buffer tube with 1200 grit sanding sponge. It works great.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 1:55:47 AM
After thinking about it for a couple of days I remember that every time it stopped
the trigger had failed to reset. I believe my problem may be this CMC trigger.
I checked my invoice and realized that I paid $200+ for this thing. Serves me right
for taking advice off a YouTube. I should've bought a Timney which have served me
well in other guns. At least I could've adjusted it.

To answer another post I used a variety of ammo including CCI minimags, Winchester Super X
high velocity, bulk Winchester white box, some Aguila, CCI standard velocity, some Eley, and
a few Win. wildcats. I also cleaned the baffles in the suppressor pryor to shooting as they were
severely leaded up from months of fun. I also tried a dry lubricant on the buffer tube (magazine
lube). Nothing I tried worked any better than anything else.

I spent all afternoon trying various degrees of pressure on the forearm, holding the butt tight to
my shoulder as well as loosely, and tilting the stock up and down (it moves a little because it's a
loose fit. I'm a pretty handy guy but as hard as I worked at it I couldn't do any better than a few
rounds at a time. Pretty much a giant FAIL.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 10:36:47 AM
Did you hold the gun lightly by the magazine? That's how most of the vids show the guys shooting theirs. I've got a SlideFire that I've used on my 5.45x39mm S&W M&P15. That works great. But I'm going to try it on my 15-22 when I can come up with enough discretionary funds to buy a 3# trigger. ($200?)
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Posted: 2/19/2012 11:54:56 AM
Well I didn't try holding the magazine. Habit I guess. I'll try that today and
report back. Also I'm confident that a 5.56 rifle would have the recoil to
operate this contraption even with the trigger I'm using.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 3:26:14 PM
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Well I didn't try holding the magazine. Habit I guess. I'll try that today and
report back. Also I'm confident that a 5.56 rifle would have the recoil to
operate this contraption even with the trigger I'm using.


I watched a half dozen youtube videos of guys using the slidefire successfully on the 15-22. One guy tested his using 6 or 7 different ammos, and it worked great on all of them. Even the Federal bulk. Watch a few more vids before you try it again. Most of them gently hold pressure using the magazine.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 4:08:00 PM
Well I've been trying it holding the magazine (not the well but the mag itself) and I'm
pleased to say it's doing somewhat better. I can go through a 25 round magazine now
with about 3-4 bursts. Thanks for the guidance and I'll continue to practice and hope
that I can eventually achieve a full mag dump.

Thanks All!

*this is going to make my favorite ammo supplier very happy too.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:14:31 AM
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My brother in law bought a 15-22 last week along with a Slidefire and a CMC trigger group. He brought it over to the house yesterday and we ran 700+ rnds through it. It ran great. We could hold on the magazine or on the forearm and still get full mag dumps. It did not matter. The only issues we had was that every once in a while, one of the rounds would not go bang. Almost looked like a light primer strike. Not really an issue. We ran CCI and Federal Champions through it and out of all the rounds we shot, I could count on one hand the number that didn't go bang the first time. Put the round back in and it would shoot.

Overall I am pleased with his gun and as a matter of fact, I have my dealer buddy getting me a price on one today.

If I think about it, I will try to post a video of it.

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Posted: 2/27/2012 11:33:29 PM
I hate all of you now i want a m&p 15 22 even more.
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Posted: 2/29/2012 5:48:42 PM
A local guy got his to work with the stock trigger. He said the main trick is getting the reset on the trigger to be shorter. He add epoxy to it somehow , im not familar with it to know.
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Posted: 3/1/2012 12:21:19 AM
you guys saved $11k on a slide fire vs. a registered lower. Splurge a little and run 5.56mm through it...
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Posted: 3/1/2012 1:42:06 AM
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
you guys saved $11k on a slide fire vs. a registered lower. Splurge a little and run 5.56mm through it...


Oh I intend to very soon!
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Posted: 3/1/2012 6:18:15 AM
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
you guys saved $11k on a slide fire vs. a registered lower. Splurge a little and run 5.56mm through it...


Must be nice to have money you can burn! Some of us are not so fortunate.
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Posted: 3/2/2012 11:01:53 AM
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there is a slide fire stock out there for the 10/22 now that works pretty great
the only downside is that it is expensive
the main reason for that expense is that it includes a KIDD trigger group

check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxCX3UtqnJQ
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Posted: 3/2/2012 11:12:32 AM
I wonder if this will work on my dedicated Spikes conversion.
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Posted: 3/16/2012 11:15:27 PM
Tempting...But then I'd put it on my AR15 and watch the $$$ disappear downrange.
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Posted: 3/27/2012 12:26:46 PM
Did not work real well with my SSA. I could get bursts, but not dump a full mag.

Trigger failed to reset.

I have heard that the RRA two stage works well..... wonder why the SSA doesn't....
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