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Posted: 6/11/2017 2:25:26 AM EDT
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Here's my Spyderco Paramilitary that I finally got in the mail. I like it a lot so far but I heard a good amount of them on the market are Chinese knockoffs. Hopefully this one is the real deal.
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Posted: 6/11/2017 4:43:25 AM EDT
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did they ditch the KDH plate carrier outright? all the joes I've seen in pictures from theater recently are wearing IOTVs.
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Posted: 6/11/2017 5:07:37 AM EDT
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did they ditch the KDH plate carrier outright? all the joes I've seen in pictures from theater recently are wearing IOTVs. Criticism of the KDH |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 7:25:49 AM EDT
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yeah, I had one and it was pretty shit. poor side plate system, poor load carriage system (barely any real estate for pouches and there was no rigs at the time that facilitated the breakaway system), poor coverage, poor shoulder pads, etc etc etc. It was however lighter than anything else the Army was giving out, but that was all it had going for it. Army should have went with a releasable MBAV.
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Posted: 6/11/2017 7:36:31 AM EDT
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Looks solid!
Thanks for your service, OP. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 7:45:18 AM EDT
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Army should have went with a releasable MBAV. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 8:00:14 AM EDT
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Anything crye is probably a bit too expensive for a force wide issue though
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Posted: 6/11/2017 8:07:17 AM EDT
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Anything crye is probably a bit too expensive for a force wide issue though |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 8:49:44 AM EDT
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Hey Brother, reading some news out of your A/O. Hope all is well.
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Posted: 6/11/2017 9:51:34 AM EDT
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A neck cooling wrap helps to keep your core cooler. Keep an eye out for heat exhaustion. I know you get the class. Only takes one time and then you get hot easier. I pushed it in Texas before we got there and had a tough time there trying to stay hydrated. Get good inserts for your boots also. God bless. Hope you are close to Bagram. Cooler than Kandahar and safer relatively.
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Posted: 6/11/2017 10:08:47 AM EDT
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Hey Brother, reading some news out of your A/O. Hope all is well. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 12:04:19 PM EDT
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From what I hear, yes. According to dudes who have used them they sucked. When I went to RFI to get issued my shit they didn't have the option to get one. Criticism of the KDH |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 1:37:54 PM EDT
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OP,
i totally see the need for knee pads, how long can you wear that particular band before they drive you nuts? do they bind on the back of your leg if you neal much? you ever feel the need for elbow pads? is going prone not a reality in combat? thanks for any insight there. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 2:13:35 PM EDT
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OP, i totally see the need for knee pads, how long can you wear that particular band before they drive you nuts? do they bind on the back of your leg if you neal much? you ever feel the need for elbow pads? is going prone not a reality in combat? thanks for any insight there. So I tried the regular issued knee pads and they suck dick. Totally cut off circulation. My PSG wears the arcteryx kneepads and suggested them so I bought a pair. They don't really cut off circulation because due to the design they dont have to be worn tight. The bottom band attaches around the top of your calf and the top band attaches around the bottom of your thigh. I can wear them for hours and yeah they get a little annoying but they arent bad at all and my shins arent all fucked up after mission. I do not wear elbow pads. I do lay prone often, almost every mission. I just dont really need them. If my elbows a little sore it doesnt bother me like if my knees hurt. It would be different if I was in recon or a sniper section |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 2:37:51 PM EDT
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I was suspicious because of the cleanliness of the gear.
Head on a swivel brother, stay safe. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 2:47:12 PM EDT
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I was suspicious because of the cleanliness of the gear. Head on a swivel brother, stay safe. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 3:07:29 PM EDT
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-OP
Knee pads look a lot nicer than the ones we got... what's up with that magazine? M855A1? (What we were issued, but with standard magazines, 2011) |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 4:05:41 PM EDT
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I was suspicious because of the cleanliness of the gear. Head on a swivel brother, stay safe. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 4:13:01 PM EDT
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Stay safe OP, hopefully you won't need to dial get 911, but if you do my boy is a PJ out there and he will come running to you!!!
God Bless! |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 5:57:58 PM EDT
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Suspicious of what? |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 6:36:17 PM EDT
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i believe he may be calling you a pogue |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 8:42:34 PM EDT
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i noticed that too. looks cleaner than my civi gear but he does have the happy hole and pin on the rifle so.... There are some real faggots on this site. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 8:45:32 PM EDT
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-OP Knee pads look a lot nicer than the ones we got... what's up with that magazine? M855A1? (What we were issued, but with standard magazines, 2011) |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 11:21:47 PM EDT
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Hey there everyone. I just wanted to update on some of my everyday kit I wear over here and was wondering if anyone had any comments or questions or possibly critiques. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o599/Jkbulldogg/20170530_081426_zpsui8ia0cy.jpg It is a Gen IV IOTV with: -Tyr Tactical triple mag shingle -Tyr Tactical single mag shingle -Tyr Tactical improved SOF IFAK -Crye General Purpose pouch for NODs -Source 3L hydro carrier -Crye 152 Harris pouch -2 general issue m4 mag pouches Also some nice knee pads. And obviously my M4 with PEQ15 and, yes, an Eotech EXPS (which has performed FLAWLESSLY in the mountains and extreme heat of Afghanistan). Not pictured is a Arcteryx H150 Rigger's Belt. Also not pictured: a Crye Modular Rigger's Belt holding a Velocity Systems dump pouch, my NODs pouch from my vest, my IFAK from my vest, a Crye frag pouch, and a Tyr tactical 9mm pistol mag pouch for my Spyderco Paramilitary 2 folder. I am ordering 4D Tactical Zero G helmet pads for my helmet. I hear they are nice. Let me know what you think, John I didn't read thru all the posts,,, but one question. If you were sent out into no mans land, where you may not able to get a quick resupply in the field, would you dump something and carry more ammo? |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 11:45:41 PM EDT
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I didn't read thru all the posts,,, but one question. If you were sent out into no mans land, where you may not able to get a quick resupply in the field, would you dump something and carry more ammo? In your opinion, out of what he showed you he carries, what exactly would he dump? Night vision? Water? Radio? IFAK? Maybe his body armor? Thats literally all he has mentioned carrying aside from the weapons he is bringing said ammo for. Spoiler alert, all of that is going with him. The second part of your question is a bit more complicated, on carrying more ammo. Short answer on carrying more ammo/stuff...yes. Long answer...upon learning you are going to "no mans land", first you get a brief describing the conditions, expectations, and desired outcome of said mission including primary and alternate COAs as well as a threat brief on estimated enemy contact best and worst case. You then use that to plan out how you are getting there and how long you are going. A day, a week, 3 months? Truck enfil, dismounted patrol, helo enfil? Kind of important. Then you bounce that off your job and role on said mission and figure out a realistic loadout. In a junior position a lot of this will be spoon fed to you by your leadership. Then, when all that is said and done and you are packed and ready to go, you start figuring out how to pack up all the extra stuff that just got divided up between all of you. Ultimately the reality is that outside of a combat load plus maybe a little bit extra, you are going to have to have a resupply plan, especially for water. There is no way to carry enough water for more than a couple days if that. With water can come ammo, batteries, and food. The only way there wont be one for more than a day or two is if you physically bring the extra with you either on vehicles or even speedballs kicked out of a helicopter as you arrive. |
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Posted: 6/11/2017 11:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryEdited, see below. HS 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 12:34:39 AM EDT
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A lot of the stuff posted in this thread is pretty odd. Shows me what a huge disconnect there actually is from reality regarding the military and everyone else. I'm not the OP, but I feel like I can field this one fairly easily. In your opinion, out of what he showed you he carries, what exactly would he dump? Night vision? Water? Radio? IFAK? Maybe his body armor? Thats literally all he has mentioned carrying aside from the weapons he is bringing said ammo for. Spoiler alert, all of that is going with him. The second part of your question is a bit more complicated, on carrying more ammo. Short answer on carrying more ammo/stuff...yes. Long answer...upon learning you are going to "no mans land", first you get a brief describing the conditions, expectations, and desired outcome of said mission including primary and alternate COAs as well as a threat brief on estimated enemy contact best and worst case. You then use that to plan out how you are getting there and how long you are going. A day, a week, 3 months? Truck enfil, dismounted patrol, helo enfil? Kind of important. Then you bounce that off your job and role on said mission and figure out a realistic loadout. In a junior position a lot of this will be spoon fed to you by your leadership. Then, when all that is said and done and you are packed and ready to go, you start figuring out how to pack up all the extra stuff that just got divided up between all of you. Ultimately the reality is that outside of a combat load plus maybe a little bit extra, you are going to have to have a resupply plan, especially for water. There is no way to carry enough water for more than a couple days if that. With water can come ammo, batteries, and food. The only way there wont be one for more than a day or two is if you physically bring the extra with you either on vehicles or even speedballs kicked out of a helicopter as you arrive. 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 1:44:01 AM EDT
[#28]
Holy smoly batman..
reading your A/O .......and stuff..... 
Holy smoly...
Stay safe and soft.... former FObbit here 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 3:19:44 AM EDT
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Couldn't of said it better myself. When on mission our QRF is another platoon in MRAPs. They carry in their trucks at all times spare water, MREs, and ammo, both inside the vehicle and in little compartments on the outside for quick access. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o599/Jkbulldogg/20170306_161054_zpszpgbuoar.jpg |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:24:35 AM EDT
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And if you have a dirty kit, this is what you need:
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:39:30 AM EDT
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This whole gear cleaning topic just brought back a fond memory.
I had a terp in Iraq who kept his IBA compulsively clean and would scrub it down in our shower trailer after every patrol. I remember one time he was cleaning it up and I came in to wash out my fleshlight insert, which I would do by wrapping the back of it around the faucet and cranking the pressure up to full blast, letting it blow up like a water balloon, then cutting the water off and letting gravity handle the rest. He asked what it was and I explained it to him and his face was like   
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:59:37 AM EDT
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This whole gear cleaning topic just brought back a fond memory. I had a terp in Iraq who kept his IBA compulsively clean and would scrub it down in our shower trailer after every patrol. I remember one time he was cleaning it up and I came in to wash out my fleshlight insert, which I would do by wrapping the back of it around the faucet and cranking the pressure up to full blast, letting it blow up like a water balloon, then cutting the water off and letting gravity handle the rest. He asked what it was and I explained it to him and his face was like
And I dont blame him, I keep my stuff clean as well. It's one thing to be on the COP and just sucking dick and embracing it, but if you have access to water and oxyclean and a brush...shit why not? My whole team does the same thing. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 11:22:10 AM EDT
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I wish we had TErps when I was there.
We had a bird who complained if our stuff wasn't dirty, it means we weren't worming hard enough. Weird guy anyways... Thanks for sharing and being out there. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 11:22:31 AM EDT
[#34]
I wish we had TErps when I was there.
We had a bird who complained if our stuff wasn't dirty, it means we weren't worming hard enough. Weird guy anyways... Thanks for sharing and being out there. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 11:24:24 AM EDT
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We had a bird who complained if our stuff wasn't dirty, it means we weren't worming hard enough. "If your kit isn't caked in dirt and feces you arent real infantry, hooah?" |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 1:24:45 PM EDT
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Couldn't of said it better myself. When on mission our QRF is another platoon in MRAPs. They carry in their trucks at all times spare water, MREs, and ammo, both inside the vehicle and in little compartments on the outside for quick access. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o599/Jkbulldogg/20170306_161054_zpszpgbuoar.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A lot of the stuff posted in this thread is pretty odd. Shows me what a huge disconnect there actually is from reality regarding the military and everyone else. I'm not the OP, but I feel like I can field this one fairly easily. In your opinion, out of what he showed you he carries, what exactly would he dump? Night vision? Water? Radio? IFAK? Maybe his body armor? Thats literally all he has mentioned carrying aside from the weapons he is bringing said ammo for. Spoiler alert, all of that is going with him. The second part of your question is a bit more complicated, on carrying more ammo. Short answer on carrying more ammo/stuff...yes. Long answer...upon learning you are going to "no mans land", first you get a brief describing the conditions, expectations, and desired outcome of said mission including primary and alternate COAs as well as a threat brief on estimated enemy contact best and worst case. You then use that to plan out how you are getting there and how long you are going. A day, a week, 3 months? Truck enfil, dismounted patrol, helo enfil? Kind of important. Then you bounce that off your job and role on said mission and figure out a realistic loadout. In a junior position a lot of this will be spoon fed to you by your leadership. Then, when all that is said and done and you are packed and ready to go, you start figuring out how to pack up all the extra stuff that just got divided up between all of you. Ultimately the reality is that outside of a combat load plus maybe a little bit extra, you are going to have to have a resupply plan, especially for water. There is no way to carry enough water for more than a couple days if that. With water can come ammo, batteries, and food. The only way there wont be one for more than a day or two is if you physically bring the extra with you either on vehicles or even speedballs kicked out of a helicopter as you arrive. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o599/Jkbulldogg/20170306_161054_zpszpgbuoar.jpg Plus , how quick is it to grab a handful of magazines while TIC vs. reach in and grab a few straps that pulle out 2-3 bandoleers for the Fire team/Squad/Plt. Run this past your TL/SL... 
That's My Inner Plt Sgt talking.... |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 2:00:55 PM EDT
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The 6 mag banddolier is an individual OCIE item, I don't see anyone giving up theirs to sit in a QRF truck ready box. We usually put all our resupply stuff like that in ammo cans marked accordingly, like 5.56 mags, pyro, demo, etc.
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:18:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Well maybe someone should rethink that...
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:37:26 PM EDT
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How air tight is that compartment? I would think you would want those magazines in the MOLLE 6 mag Bandoleer pouch with strap (Which seems like what it was designed for) vs. loose inside that compartment, left to rattle around and let all kinds of dirt/Debris from the road start making it's way into those loaded magazines. Plus , how quick is it to grab a handful of magazines while TIC vs. reach in and grab a few straps that pulle out 2-3 bandoleers for the Fire team/Squad/Plt. Run this past your TL/SL...
That's My Inner Plt Sgt talking....
But seriously, that rubber seal around the compartment keeps most shit out, but dust gets everywhere over here. Even in bandoleers they'd get dusty. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:42:18 PM EDT
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I'll bring it up to 1SG next time and let him know Harv said to unfuck yourself
But seriously, that rubber seal around the compartment keeps most shit out, but dust gets everywhere over here. Even in bandoleers they'd get dusty. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 11:46:43 PM EDT
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Do you have to pay for a G33 magnifier out-of-pocket, or can you order one using NSN?
1240-01-616-8655 1240-01-617-9721 |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:01:35 AM EDT
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Got a bayonet...does that make up for it?? http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o599/Jkbulldogg/20170520_151437_zpsa4sxug4q.jpg |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:04:22 AM EDT
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Edited, see below. HS
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:40:22 AM EDT
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What ammo are you using? |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 12:47:07 AM EDT
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Do you have to pay for a G33 magnifier out-of-pocket, or can you order one using NSN? 1240-01-616-8655 1240-01-617-9721 |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:03:04 AM EDT
[#46]
Edited, see below. HS
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:16:59 AM EDT
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Edited, see below. HS
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Posted: 6/13/2017 4:02:24 AM EDT
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Edited, see below. HS 
You guys crack me up...I appreciate the feedback |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 6:37:35 AM EDT
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Edited, see below. HS
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Posted: 6/13/2017 9:14:52 AM EDT
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Worst haiku ever. I bet the dudes at lightfighter are super jelly of your civi gear too, at least thats probably how you think it goes down in your head. Wanna know how I know you have no idea what you are talking about? What special internet is he supposed to use? WTF is a "general internet"?
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