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Posted: 5/8/2017 12:22:57 AM EDT
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I have this works well for its purpose
https://www.botach.com/pt-a-bravo-helmets-w-dual-rail-mount/ and yes I know its Botact. Maybe I have been lucky and no issues |
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Posted: 5/8/2017 12:30:34 AM EDT
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PT Bravo from TNVC is the answer. USA made, only about $70 or $80, depending on which version you get. Both versions support rails and NVG mounts, plus they have goggle retention bungees. Also light and ventilated.
PT Bravo half shell (linky). PT Bravo full shell (linky). |
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Posted: 5/8/2017 3:57:40 AM EDT
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Pro-tec classic.
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Posted: 5/9/2017 2:07:57 AM EDT
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Pro-tec classic. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 4:39:24 PM EDT
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PT Bravo from TNVC is the answer. USA made, only about $70 or $80, depending on which version you get. Both versions support rails and NVG mounts, plus they have goggle retention bungees. Also light and ventilated. PT Bravo half shell (linky). PT Bravo full shell (linky). Realistically, what's the difference/benefit of one cut over the other? |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:44:13 PM EDT
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I'm leaning this way now. Realistically, what's the difference/benefit of one cut over the other? After hearing a few thundbee grenades in an enclosed area (plus one field promoter that liked firing 30-06 blanks in the staging area), I wear actual hearing protection for airsoft. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:46:18 PM EDT
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The half shell is for use with ear protection/comms. The full shell provides more coverage if that isn't a concern.
Edit: Iram beat me to the punch |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 6:02:59 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you guys.
Not to add another layer to it, but... My son & I have also been screwing around at an indoor climbing club & he's wanting to do some basic rappelling outside. Would a half cut helmet provide sufficient protection for that? |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 7:16:38 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you guys. Not to add another layer to it, but... My son & I have also been screwing around at an indoor climbing club & he's wanting to do some basic rappelling outside. Would a half cut helmet provide sufficient protection for that? If you will not be wearing any comms gear or the aforementioned hearing protection with the helemts I would get the full cut. If you do want to be able to have easy comms/earpro interface get the half cut. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 7:19:34 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you guys. Not to add another layer to it, but... My son & I have also been screwing around at an indoor climbing club & he's wanting to do some basic rappelling outside. Would a half cut helmet provide sufficient protection for that? Assuming "indoor" means "above a flat floor", you'll probably be fine with a half-cut helmet. About the only place it would make a difference is if you fall, ear-first, onto something that's going to penetrate into your ear without touching the parts of the helmet around your ear. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 7:45:57 PM EDT
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Thanks again guys.
Looks like I'll be putting together a TNVC order here in a bit. 
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Posted: 5/13/2017 9:04:38 PM EDT
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Thanks again guys. Looks like I'll be putting together a TNVC order here in a bit. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 10:41:04 PM EDT
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If you think you might ever want NVGs, get the helmet pre-drilled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks again guys. Looks like I'll be putting together a TNVC order here in a bit. "NVG drill pattern includes Norotos/Wilcox/VAS shroud types (rectangular and triangular)." Does that mean that all of their helmets are predrilled or is this something I need to specifically request? @TNVC - are you around to answer this question? |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 2:34:36 PM EDT
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I've slowly been saving for NVGs, so I should check on it. On TNVC's site, part of the description reads: "NVG drill pattern includes Norotos/Wilcox/VAS shroud types (rectangular and triangular)." Does that mean that all of their helmets are predrilled or is this something I need to specifically request? @TNVC - are you around to answer this question? According to the manufacturer, you can drill a single hole and use a surplus ACH NVG mount without modifying the mount. I've tried, couldn't get it working. Had to add a bunch of spacers just to get the mount tight, and even then the angle's funky. Manufacturer also claims that a PASGT NVG mount will also work, but that requires holes to be drilled AND modification to the mount. I haven't tried that. There's a lot of manufacturer options on those protec helmets if you're willing to order direct. Their Customer Service are a bunch of liars that like to sit on pineapples, so I'd recommend going through a dealer like TNVC. I think the TNVC helmets have most of the optional add-ons, but you want to check on the NVG mount; if it's important to you, I'd order it with the mount. Only possible issue with the offerings from TNVC is they don't (last time I looked) carry a size 2XL. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 5:03:53 PM EDT
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Got my helmet today. FYI - apparently TNVC is not going to stock these any more because all they have left is XL grey helmets.
 Attached FileWhen I see pictures of people wearing these things they all look so high speed, low drag. I put mine on & look like I have Down syndrome. Oh well, it can be adjusted to fit my son & serves its purpose. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 6:54:24 PM EDT
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Got my helmet today. FYI - apparently TNVC is not going to stock these any more because all they have left is XL grey helmets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/266317/image-214052.JPG When I see pictures of people wearing these things they all look so high speed, low drag. I put mine on & look like I have Down syndrome. Oh well, it can be adjusted to fit my son & serves its purpose. 
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Posted: 5/24/2017 5:17:57 PM EDT
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Just order direct from Pro-Tec, looks like they have a Maritime Ops Core style bump for $70
https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14 |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 11:49:48 PM EDT
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Just order direct from Pro-Tec, looks like they have a Maritime Ops Core style bump for $70 https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14 |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:44:22 AM EDT
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Just order direct from Pro-Tec, looks like they have a Maritime Ops Core style bump for $70 https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14 Not sure it matters much for a light use bump helmet, but I wouldn't want to go rock climbing with it. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:03:33 AM EDT
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When I see "one size fits all", a high-cut helmet with rails and an NVG mount for $70, and it's a blatant knock-off of someone else's design, it just screams "airsoft clone". Not sure it matters much for a light use bump helmet, but I wouldn't want to go rock climbing with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just order direct from Pro-Tec, looks like they have a Maritime Ops Core style bump for $70 https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14 Not sure it matters much for a light use bump helmet, but I wouldn't want to go rock climbing with it. 
Someone else's design? The Delta guys in Somalia were using Protec hockey helmets. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:58:46 AM EDT
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Someone else's design? The Delta guys in Somalia were using Protec hockey helmets. Look at the top three helmets in the link I quoted. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:29:26 AM EDT
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We're not talking about the same helmets. Look at the top three helmets in the link I quoted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Someone else's design? The Delta guys in Somalia were using Protec hockey helmets. Look at the top three helmets in the link I quoted. Regardless I'd be leery just because of their questionable service. If I really wanted one I'd order from TNVC if they have them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:53:49 AM EDT
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Care to do a quick review when you get it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just order direct from Pro-Tec, looks like they have a Maritime Ops Core style bump for $70 https://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14 
Do you want me to do a review of the Bravo I bought or stoner63 to do a review of the ones he linked to? |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:01:19 AM EDT
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Oh, I see what you mean. Well, they're using Ops-Core parts afaik so I don't know if I'd call them a clone, but they do look similar. Regardless I'd be leery just because of their questionable service. If I really wanted one I'd order from TNVC if they have them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:13:04 AM EDT
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Where do you see them say it uses genuine Ops-Core parts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, I see what you mean. Well, they're using Ops-Core parts afaik so I don't know if I'd call them a clone, but they do look similar. Regardless I'd be leery just because of their questionable service. If I really wanted one I'd order from TNVC if they have them. Might be worth an email regardless. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:41:22 PM EDT
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I'm not 100%, but they're calling them Arc rails and that's an OpsCore trademark and patent. It would be pretty risky for a large and well known company to rip something off that blatantly. Might be worth an email regardless. I just checked a couple airsoft websites, and sure enough, none of the knock-offs have "arc" in the rail description. A few items tagged with "arc" as a keyword (mostly helmets around $70 that were obviously OpsCore knock-offs) and a few "arc compatible" accessories, but that's it. Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:28:33 PM EDT
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The Emerson clone helmets are actually quite nice for a knock off piece of gear. One of the downsides is they only come in one size instead of two like the actual OpsCore units. They do take all OpsCore accessories though. And the padding and impact protection pieces seem to be as good as other helmets I've looked at. Here's mine. Didn't need a Ballastic helmet just a simple bump unit for some of the stuff I do and didn't see the point in big bucks.
Also the Pro Tech "advanced tactical helmets" are just Emerson airsoft clone helmets. Nothing wrong with them but you can get them cheaper elsewhere. I've used mine for mine exploring when I was still stationed in SOCAL and it helped protect me from more than a few head knocks, used it alot recently for rappelling duty after comparing it to something like a Petzel climbing helmet and just wasn't impressed with the suspension/impact pieces in the Petzel helmets even compared to the Emerson clones. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 7:46:45 AM EDT
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It's your head and all but realize that real climbing helmets are rated as such. Unlike Emerson, etc. . |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 8:01:25 AM EDT
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Just order from someone aside from Pro-Tec themselves. They had lousy CS when I needed new foam for mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pro-tec classic. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 8:02:46 AM EDT
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Got my helmet today. FYI - apparently TNVC is not going to stock these any more because all they have left is XL grey helmets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/266317/image-214052.JPG When I see pictures of people wearing these things they all look so high speed, low drag. I put mine on & look like I have Down syndrome. Oh well, it can be adjusted to fit my son & serves its purpose. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:00:28 AM EDT
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Wouldn't you have to deal with CS for new foam regardless of the seller? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pro-tec classic. 
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:16:38 AM EDT
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I bought direct from Pro-Tec and got the wrong size of foam... they said they'd replace it and then stopped responding. I ended up just ordering another set |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 11:43:20 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you guys. Not to add another layer to it, but... My son & I have also been screwing around at an indoor climbing club & he's wanting to do some basic rappelling outside. Would a half cut helmet provide sufficient protection for that? That said, I've never seen an indoor climbing gym require helmets. |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 3:09:37 AM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you guys. Not to add another layer to it, but... My son & I have also been screwing around at an indoor climbing club & he's wanting to do some basic rappelling outside. Would a half cut helmet provide sufficient protection for that? |
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