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Posted: 4/2/2017 12:57:10 PM EDT
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Tagging for info.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 4:46:16 PM EDT
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Cheapest option for UV-5R is a trucker mic, a 3.5 male-to-male cord, and a set of Howard Leigh Impact Sports
Gucchi option is a PTT that connects to either Peltors or Sordins |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 6:41:52 PM EDT
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Ugh, comms are the last piece of expensive kit I need and I'm done. I need everything from the radio to wires to those expensive ass muffs that mount to bump helmets. Man I wish there was an option that wasn't so expensive.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 7:53:51 PM EDT
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Ugh, comms are the last piece of expensive kit I need and I'm done. I need everything from the radio to wires to those expensive ass muffs that mount to bump helmets. Man I wish there was an option that wasn't so expensive. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 8:49:45 PM EDT
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What I posted, radio included, would come in under $100. License fee for the test is around $20-30 IIRC |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 8:50:55 PM EDT
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I have a Baofeng UV5R and a Yaesu FT-60R, but I haven't nailed down peripheral gear for either yet.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 9:13:42 PM EDT
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Marine, GMRS and weather at 1/2.5/5 watts with removable antenna.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 9:31:59 PM EDT
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What I posted, radio included, would come in under $100. License fee for the test is around $20-30 IIRC |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 9:40:11 PM EDT
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Yeah the radio can be cheap and license. But I'm looking at used Peltors and Sordins and they are hundreds of dollars. Plus wires. Plus bump helmet mounts. Plus mic if I choose. unless you just gotta go Gucci start small till you fully figure out your needs. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 9:45:28 PM EDT
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I have two different setups depending on what I need and what I have.
Both use the Baofeng BF-F9V2+ (Tri-Power) Setup #1 is a simple and cheap option and has two variations Equipment - Radio, Remote Speaker Mic with 3.5mm Out, 3.5mm Listen Only Acoustic Tube, 3.5mm - 3.5mm Cable (90 degree angle), Electronic Ear Pro with 3.5mm In (The links here are ones I put in, not randomly for advertising) (DAMNIT, the link on Radio snuck in there!!!) 
This picture is without Ear Pro. If you are using Ear Pro plug the 3.5mm - 3.5mm in the Remote Speaker Mic and then into the headset. Either way you are using the Mic to speak and the Acoustic Tube or Electronic Ear Pro to listen Setup #2 is just as simple but much more expensive Equipment - Radio, Amped Push To Talk Switch (Very Important that it is amped), Peltor Comtac's or MSA Sordin Ear Pro 
Here the Amped Push To Talk is connected to the Radio and the Ear Pro (Comtac III Dual PTT). The PTT must be Amped or it will not work with Baofengs. Baofeng uses the same connection as Kenwood but the internals of the Baofeng jack up audio on non-amped PTT's. I purchased mine on a Facebook page. Search Amped PTT for the page and request access. I have two sets, they work great. I have had no issues with them, Jeff does great work. I have used this on chest rigs and plate carriers with no issues. Upgrade your antenna to the NA-771 or ExpertPower XP-669-C, these will help a bunch over the stock antenna. (These links I put in as well) Hope this helps |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 9:51:32 PM EDT
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On the frequency side, I am certified as a HAM Tech. I also have my own UHF frequencies for my business, 4 Simplex and a Repeater Pair on Nationwide Itinerant Frequencies. I can use my MotoTRBO 7550 (Analog or Digital) with these frequencies with either of the setups above and do Dual Radios with the Comtac's.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:00:32 PM EDT
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I tried the FB Search, but couldn't find a link to request access.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:04:46 PM EDT
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Try - Amped ptt for real sordins, comtacs and tci headsets
or here is the link, I think - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1443722339200376/ |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:06:55 PM EDT
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I have had this conversation with my buddies like 2 dozen times. IMO, the best, cheap, way to go about it is with a UV-5R and a lapel mic/ear tube run under your earpro. This way, when you ultimately don't use your comms, it doesn't put you out a bunch of money.
This is what we have used tucked under Howard Lieghts with good enough results. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K1W7C58?tag=vglnk-c102-20 I am not big on interfacing with headsets unless you are ready to pony up for Comtac's or comms enabled Sordins. With the ear tube under your earpro, you can take your head set off and keep your comms up. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:07:14 PM EDT
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Try - Amped ptt for real sordins, comtacs and tci headsets or here is the link, I think - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1443722339200376/ |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 11:06:35 PM EDT
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I have had this conversation with my buddies like 2 dozen times. IMO, the best, cheap, way to go about it is with a UV-5R and a lapel mic/ear tube run under your earpro. This way, when you ultimately don't use your comms, it doesn't put you out a bunch of money. This is what we have used tucked under Howard Lieghts with good enough results. https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Acoustic-Earpiece-Headset-Kenwood/dp/B00K1W7C58?tag=vglnk-c102-20 I am not big on interfacing with headsets unless you are ready to pony up for Comtac's or comms enabled Sordins. With the ear tube under your earpro, you can take your head set off and keep your comms up. My problem is I don't like.....shallow (best way I can describe the feeling) muffs. I like muffs that have a lot of room for my big ass ears. I hate muffs that sit on top of my ears instead of engulfing them. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 11:23:03 PM EDT
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My problem is I don't like.....shallow (best way I can describe the feeling) muffs. I like muffs that have a lot of room for my big ass ears. I hate muffs that sit on top of my ears instead of engulfing them. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:44:30 AM EDT
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I use Peltor Comtac III, a Peltor PTT that interfaces with my Motorola APX radio, and my work radio is APX 6000. I also have a UV5R with aftermarket antenna.
I have found I don't always use my helmet (it's hot and a little over the top for many scenarios) and I am looking for an in ear option I can plug into my PTT, which is set up for interfacing my work radio (Motorola APX 6000) with my peltor headset. So, a military connection for an impedance mismatched headset, compatible earpiece that is fairly waterproof. I also have Sordin Supreme Pro and an add on boom mic kit from SRS Tactical with Iron Forged Concepts adapters and do not recommend that route at all. I have handout UVR5, 3.5 cables, and speaker mic, but the 3.5mm jack on most aftermarket headsets is far from as secure as the dual plug on non mic Peltor (regular TacSport, Comtac, etc.) and the speaker mic is not warerproof. Love to hear about ear pieces for my needs or waterproof speaker-mics for Ham radios. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:45:20 AM EDT
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I have handout UVR5, 3.5 cables, and speaker mic, but the 3.5mm jack on most aftermarket headsets is far from as secure as the dual plug on non mic Peltor (regular TacSport, Comtac, etc.) and the speaker mic is not warerproof. Love to hear about ear pieces for my needs or waterproof speaker-mics for Ham radios. For the 3.5mm side I don't think there will be too much waterproof. I have worn a waterproof speaker mic with a 3.5mm acoustic tube in a good rain before without any issue. I have not seen any speaker mics with a secure 3.5mm connection. If it is a huge concern you could try some electrical tape cut into skinny strips and wrapped around the 3.5mm cord and then around the speaker mic. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:01:10 AM EDT
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That speaker mic looks awesome. Will definitely buy one! Since a speaker mic is not having to work with my Peltor it's not an issue with impedance. My PTT I have for my work radio to work with my COMTAC III is my issue.
For most people the above speaker mic and a Peltor 3.5mm plug is a perfect solution for a civilian radio. The Peltor 3.5 plugs have a dual plug on the headset end that won't pull loose. They are fairly rugged with good electronics, swappable colored ear covers and use the gel ear cups for COMTAC. The SportTac/Tactial Sport headset also is compatibe with the 3M Peltor ARC rail adapters directly but it may only fit high cut helmets due to thickness. The COMTAC III fits mid cut helmets via the ARC rail as well (not tried it with mid cut yet on tactical sport). Really the only negative is the level of waterproof/dust proof resistance and extra bulk when compared directly to COMTAC III costing twice to three times as much. Is my earpiece gonna cost me an arm and leg? A Nato plug on one end and in the ear speaker/mic on the other that will go into an impedance correcting PTT? Sounds like something not frequently purchased. Do they havery military in ear pieces that act as speaker and mic with a NATO plug? I have a Motorola Bluetooth in ear piece with mini PTT from work, but it is always out of battery charge and the earpiece falls out all the time. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:36:41 PM EDT
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Is my earpiece gonna cost me an arm and leg? A Nato plug on one end and in the ear speaker/mic on the other that will go into an impedance correcting PTT? Sounds like something not frequently purchased. Do they havery military in ear pieces that act as speaker and mic with a NATO plug? I have a Motorola Bluetooth in ear piece with mini PTT from work, but it is always out of battery charge and the earpiece falls out all the time. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 10:30:31 AM EDT
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My plate carrier sits in my storage locker in the back of my police vehicle. The PTT is routed in a pretty complex fashion down the back and through the cummerbund to tie into a radio holder on my belt. Being in CID, I wear my plate carrier for anything that requires armor. It would be a major pain to swap PTT and I need it ready at a moments notice.
Many times, I don't need a full on helmet set up. If it's not a violent felony offender arrest or active shooter, the helmet is too hot and too off putting when dealing with the public. Currently, I have to use a handheld, but would sure like a reliable earpiece. I have an encrypted Bluetooth, but like I said... always dead and only lasts about 2-4 hours, plus I'd like to have muscle memory using the PTT that goes with my helmet. Honestly, the shoulder speaker/mic would make more sense if I had not dropped $700 plus on my COMTAC and dedicated PTT. It leaves me with no intermediate options and there are tons of ear pieces for the Motorola shoulder mics. If any other police officers are considering a comms option for anything other than SWAT work, I'd look at an earpiece to a shoulder mic and a Peltor Tactical Sport to the shoulder mic on high cut helmets. Would have saved me $500. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 12:28:47 AM EDT
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We switch back and forth between vertex team UHF radios and other motorola UHF site radios.
A speaker mic with an audio ear bud works fine under helmet ear pro. That makes it a little easier to talk into, finding the mic on your shoulder with a big button. The more comfortable route is a regular surveillance type mic/bud, which also fits well under ear pro if you need it. The only problem with that is sometimes routing it is a pain in the ass on armor, or switching from armor to regular shirts, and it likes to get snagged on things. It's not worth dumping a bunch of your own money into these military PTT setups. If you had a need for them, somebody would be issuing you one. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 9:05:22 AM EDT
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We switch back and forth between vertex team UHF radios and other motorola UHF site radios. A speaker mic with an audio ear bud works fine under helmet ear pro. That makes it a little easier to talk into, finding the mic on your shoulder with a big button. The more comfortable route is a regular surveillance type mic/bud, which also fits well under ear pro if you need it. The only problem with that is sometimes routing it is a pain in the ass on armor, or switching from armor to regular shirts, and it likes to get snagged on things. It's not worth dumping a bunch of your own money into these military PTT setups. If you had a need for them, somebody would be issuing you one. |
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Posted: 4/10/2017 10:44:31 PM EDT
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I don't know about that last part. I've been in several situations where a good comm headset would've saved me a lot of asspain, but the air force is very stingy if you're not in a cool-guy unit so I had nothing but the 152 itself. |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 11:09:46 AM EDT
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I have a Baofeng UV5R and a Yaesu FT-60R, but I haven't nailed down peripheral gear for either yet. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 7:25:46 AM EDT
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Who are you planning to talk to with your comms?
ETA: Keep in mind a HAM license doesn't cover GMRS. Also a lot of "fancy" cheap radios (like the UV-5R) have a minimum power output that exceeds the legal limit on FRS channels, and no license will currently let you legally use that much power on the FRS-only channels. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:01:13 PM EDT
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Who are you planning to talk to with your comms? ETA: Keep in mind a HAM license doesn't cover GMRS. Also a lot of "fancy" cheap radios (like the UV-5R) have a minimum power output that exceeds the legal limit on FRS channels, and no license will currently let you legally use that much power on the FRS-only channels. |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 9:50:30 PM EDT
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Me & lot of my friends & family use UV5R's.
Car to car while traveling, on the range, 4 wheeling, etc. I had 3 or 4 of the remote mic's fail. I really like the little earpiece that is included with the radio's. Hand free for driving on the road, it will fit under a helmet & ear muffs. I have 3 or 4 now. At $25 each, they are pretty much disposable. John |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 6:35:30 AM EDT
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I'm interested in this thread. I wouldn't mind getting some Comm sets and microphone to talk to other people/person while shooting, or what not instead of having a walkie talkie radio. My budget is around $1000.00 Probably need to go study up for HAM first though. Shouldn't be a problem. Unless the guys you shoot with are rich hardcore mall ninja's, they probably aren't licensed. At that point, you're looking at FRS radios, and they're all about the same. (It used to be possible for one licensed GMRS person to run a network of GMRS radios operated by non-licensed people...not sure if that's true anymore) |
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Posted: 5/6/2017 10:00:59 PM EDT
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Yes,
You will need ham tickets, but you get good comms from that & no worries about getting caught by the FCC. This also leads easily to 50 watt mobiles & even higher base units. The test isn't that bad. FRS will only work about a 1/4 mile, and less than that in a wooded area with leaves on the trees. I do think GMRS is a good way to go, but we haven't gone that route. John Quote HistoryQuoted:
The problem with HAM is the people you're talking to need to be licensed, too. Unless the guys you shoot with are rich hardcore mall ninja's, they probably aren't licensed. At that point, you're looking at FRS radios, and they're all about the same. (It used to be possible for one licensed GMRS person to run a network of GMRS radios operated by non-licensed people...not sure if that's true anymore) |
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Posted: 5/9/2017 2:10:01 PM EDT
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There are some guys on TOS using MBITR copies from China, supposedly can withstand being dunked in the ocean and breaking cinderblocks. They also work with surplus mil antennas and ptt's, might be worth checking out.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 1:34:41 AM EDT
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(It used to be possible for one licensed GMRS person to run a network of GMRS radios operated by non-licensed people...not sure if that's true anymore) 95.179 Individuals who may be station operators. (a) An individual GMRS system licensee may permit immediate family members to be station operators in his or her GMRS system. Immediate family members are the: (1) Licensee; (2) Licensee's spouse; (3) Licensee's children, grandchildren, stepchildren; (4) Licensee's parents, grandparents, stepparents; (5) Licensee's brothers, sisters; (6) Licensee's aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews; and (7) Licensee's in-laws. I'm a fan of GMRS, but for the OP I only think it would be useful if all his buddies got licensed too, which should be an option, I cant remember for sure but I think its only like 75 bucks for 5 years. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:40:38 PM EDT
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What pouch, or what size pouch is everyone using for their Boafeng?
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:02:44 PM EDT
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Maxpedition makes a good scalable one that can fit a bunch of different HTs.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:26:24 PM EDT
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There are some guys on TOS using MBITR copies from China, supposedly can withstand being dunked in the ocean and breaking cinderblocks. They also work with surplus mil antennas and ptt's, might be worth checking out. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:49:58 PM EDT
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What pouch, or what size pouch is everyone using for their Boafeng? |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 7:53:15 AM EDT
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Can you post a link? |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 8:09:59 AM EDT
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What pouch, or what size pouch is everyone using for their Boafeng? It has easy in and retention so strong it will never come out on its own, even witbout secondary retention. It fits multile radio sizes without adjustment. If your radio has unprotected buttons, you need a dedicated hard case or non elastic case to avoid unintended button activations. UV5R has protected buttons. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 4:20:12 PM EDT
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Nobody listens to me...
 
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:43:21 PM EDT
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UV-5R or UV-82HP to a water resistant handmic linked below, then to an earbud I cut one side off of routed under my ear pro. Sometimes I route it to my howard leights but usually just use the earbud.
Here's the water resistant handmic I use. Has a much better feel than the standard one. QHM22 IP54 SPEAKERMIC |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:42:30 PM EDT
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What kind of comms do the people you're going to talk to have?
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Posted: 5/22/2017 1:25:12 AM EDT
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Not sure if this is the right area for this but seems like it might work. I'm rocking a PRC-152 at work and managed to get my hands on one of the Thales speaker/mics. The problem is the damn thing is quiet as hell and doesn't seem to disable the speaker on the radio when in use. Is this just me or is this thing jacked up?
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Posted: 5/22/2017 4:43:22 AM EDT
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Baofeng, maybe Motor
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Posted: 5/22/2017 9:18:55 AM EDT
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Not sure if this is the right area for this but seems like it might work. I'm rocking a PRC-152 at work and managed to get my hands on one of the Thales speaker/mics. The problem is the damn thing is quiet as hell and doesn't seem to disable the speaker on the radio when in use. Is this just me or is this thing jacked up? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 8:22:52 AM EDT
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Not sure if this is the right area for this but seems like it might work. I'm rocking a PRC-152 at work and managed to get my hands on one of the Thales speaker/mics. The problem is the damn thing is quiet as hell and doesn't seem to disable the speaker on the radio when in use. Is this just me or is this thing jacked up? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 6:49:01 PM EDT
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Not sure if this is the right area for this but seems like it might work. I'm rocking a PRC-152 at work and managed to get my hands on one of the Thales speaker/mics. The problem is the damn thing is quiet as hell and doesn't seem to disable the speaker on the radio when in use. Is this just me or is this thing jacked up? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 11:42:46 PM EDT
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Can you post a link? http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?189953-PRC-148-Radio-First-Impressions-and-Initial-Setup-and-Follow-on-Setup-on-Chest-Rig |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 11:53:19 PM EDT
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I've self education on the disableing the radio speaker, however the hand mix/speaker still is quiet as hell. I ended up ordering an ear piece to plug in, but I'll happily try out any knowledge you've got!
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Posted: 6/4/2017 9:38:42 AM EDT
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Harris 152 and a PYQ-10
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