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Posted: 1/10/2015 8:30:24 PM EDT

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The only way to carry a heavy ruck for me is to carry a heavy ruck.

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Yep. I do 8-10 miles with about 65lbs in my Mystery Ranch once a week, usually try to incorporate some pretty severe elevation changes. I do it for time, so I have measurable improvement.

I ruck with the 6500 most often, it's the most comfortable large ruck I have (I also have an Eberlestock Warhammer, ALICE, and 3-4 issue molle rucks).

Aside from food, ammo, 2x 3L camelback bladders, and some loose admin stuff this is what I usually keep loaded in it on a regular basis.

All of this includes a stove, fuel, cold weather gear, socks/underwear/t-shirts, change of clothes, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivy cover, single person bivy tent, lights/batteries, first aid kit, poncho liner, water bottles, water filter, cookset, body armor kit for the ruck, etc. When I ruck I toss 2 200rd 5.56 battlepacks, and when I use it in the field I fill it up with tons of mountain house/MRE's.

Posted: 1/10/2015 8:53:49 PM EDT

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CAMELBAK MOTHERLODE

SNOW MARPAT

Posted: 1/10/2015 9:12:35 PM EDT

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What's a good, discreet pack to hold a days worth of clothes and stuff and still have a protected pocket or sleeve for a laptop? Camelbak urban assault? Tact tailor urban operator?

Posted: 1/10/2015 11:04:25 PM EDT

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I have pea gravel in them.
Different weights.

I put them in the Alice Ruck for hikes.

The only way to carry a heavy ruck for me is to carry a heavy ruck.

I'm a gluten for punishment, I like the burn on the hills.

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What are some good compression sacks for sleeping bags and smaller items of clothing ?

T.T. ruck.

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Med Alice

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I've Free Loaded on here a lot from pic's.

Here's a couple of crappy ones.

I need to take more and of the other rucks too.

Pardon my ignorance, but what's with the dog food bags?

I have pea gravel in them.
Different weights.

I put them in the Alice Ruck for hikes.

The only way to carry a heavy ruck for me is to carry a heavy ruck.

I'm a gluten for punishment, I like the burn on the hills.

Hey, that is the same method the NVA used to train their infantry back during the Vietnam War. They'd fill up a rucksack with 50 lbs of rocks then have their trainees run up and down hills all day while wearing the pack. It probably didn't do wonders for their joints but I bet it sure as hell got them into good conditioning quite quickly.

Posted: 1/11/2015 12:11:02 AM EDT

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Yep. I do 8-10 miles with about 65lbs in my Mystery Ranch once a week, usually try to incorporate some pretty severe elevation changes. I do it for time, so I have measurable improvement.

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I ruck with the 6500 most often, it's the most comfortable large ruck I have (I also have an Eberlestock Warhammer, ALICE, and 3-4 issue molle rucks).

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg</a>

Aside from food, ammo, 2x 3L camelback bladders, and some loose admin stuff this is what I usually keep loaded in it on a regular basis.

All of this includes a stove, fuel, cold weather gear, socks/underwear/t-shirts, change of clothes, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivy cover, single person bivy tent, lights/batteries, first aid kit, poncho liner, water bottles, water filter, cookset, body armor kit for the ruck, etc. When I ruck I toss 2 200rd 5.56 battlepacks, and when I use it in the field I fill it up with tons of mountain house/MRE's.

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg</a>

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The only way to carry a heavy ruck for me is to carry a heavy ruck.

Yep. I do 8-10 miles with about 65lbs in my Mystery Ranch once a week, usually try to incorporate some pretty severe elevation changes. I do it for time, so I have measurable improvement.

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/14df4a92-ace8-416e-b182-396d6a84ae44_zpsb96756bb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/14df4a92-ace8-416e-b182-396d6a84ae44_zpsb96756bb.jpg</a>

I ruck with the 6500 most often, it's the most comfortable large ruck I have (I also have an Eberlestock Warhammer, ALICE, and 3-4 issue molle rucks).

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg</a>

Aside from food, ammo, 2x 3L camelback bladders, and some loose admin stuff this is what I usually keep loaded in it on a regular basis.

All of this includes a stove, fuel, cold weather gear, socks/underwear/t-shirts, change of clothes, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivy cover, single person bivy tent, lights/batteries, first aid kit, poncho liner, water bottles, water filter, cookset, body armor kit for the ruck, etc. When I ruck I toss 2 200rd 5.56 battlepacks, and when I use it in the field I fill it up with tons of mountain house/MRE's.

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg</a>

looks like garden of the gods to me

Posted: 1/11/2015 12:45:57 AM EDT

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Your two choices are pretty much the Covrt 18 or the Urban Assault. I have the Covrt 18, If I was to do it over I would get the Urban Assualt.

Posted: 1/11/2015 1:12:58 AM EDT

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Any small pack with a hydration pouch. Just pay attention to the dimensions to make sure your computer will fit.
I use a TT opuhrater and it works fine, no issues.

Posted: 1/11/2015 1:55:17 AM EDT

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The only way to carry a heavy ruck for me is to carry a heavy ruck.

Yep. I do 8-10 miles with about 65lbs in my Mystery Ranch once a week, usually try to incorporate some pretty severe elevation changes. I do it for time, so I have measurable improvement.

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/14df4a92-ace8-416e-b182-396d6a84ae44_zpsb96756bb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/14df4a92-ace8-416e-b182-396d6a84ae44_zpsb96756bb.jpg</a>

I ruck with the 6500 most often, it's the most comfortable large ruck I have (I also have an Eberlestock Warhammer, ALICE, and 3-4 issue molle rucks).

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0059_zpsc003e5a1.jpg</a>

Aside from food, ammo, 2x 3L camelback bladders, and some loose admin stuff this is what I usually keep loaded in it on a regular basis.

All of this includes a stove, fuel, cold weather gear, socks/underwear/t-shirts, change of clothes, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivy cover, single person bivy tent, lights/batteries, first aid kit, poncho liner, water bottles, water filter, cookset, body armor kit for the ruck, etc. When I ruck I toss 2 200rd 5.56 battlepacks, and when I use it in the field I fill it up with tons of mountain house/MRE's.

<a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/daemon734/media/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF0054_zps85ab1271.jpg</a>

looks like garden of the gods to me

Palmer

Posted: 1/11/2015 3:14:30 AM EDT

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Before I begin, let me apologize for the iPotato camera quality. From left to right: Grey Ghost Gear Lightweight Assault Pack, Legacy 3 Day Pack, Lightweight Assault Pack Mod 1 (no direct attach to molle capability). I just got the 3 day for use as a range bag and I really like it. Now I need a ruck, but most good ones are expensive (TT Extended Range, Eberlestock Destroyer) and I doubt there'll be any good sales (unless there's a Presidents week sale) before I go to the desert. Not like the AF would actually issue me anything really good since I'm not in an AFSOC career field.

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I recently picked up one of the legacy three day packs in Mandrake. Since GGG gear is mostly made by Tactical Tailor, the legacy is almost identical to the older model TT 3 day pack. The one huge difference not listed in the description on the GGG site that I really loved was the pack appears to be made almost entirely out of 500d Cordura vs. the old 1000d. I really liked this feature as the I have owned quite a few of the older versions. It is a really nice pack if you like that style, and catch it on sale, Really love the material. The shoulder straps aren't as thick as the old TT 3 day either, which were very very thick.

Posted: 1/11/2015 10:12:09 AM EDT

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Beware of knock-offs if you look at ALICE stuff.

This was advertised as "unissued surplus" on Amazon. After spending 5 years in the back of my truck (along with a few backpacking trips in college), some of the webbing turned blue and some turned yellow. Bad picture, but this has got to be a knockoff. Nice pack, but I'm not sure how far I'd trust it.

Posted: 1/11/2015 12:06:39 PM EDT

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Beware of knock-offs if you look at ALICE stuff.

This was advertised as "unissued surplus" on Amazon. After spending 5 years in the back of my truck (along with a few backpacking trips in college), some of the webbing turned blue and some turned yellow. Bad picture, but this has got to be a knockoff. Nice pack, but I'm not sure how far I'd trust it.

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Posted: 1/11/2015 8:26:09 PM EDT

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My contribution:

Mystery Ranch 3 Day Assault Pack. Most comfortable and versatile mid-size pack I have ever owned. Coincidentally also the most expensive

Posted: 1/17/2015 3:52:13 AM EDT

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Is the Tarahumara large enough to fit a 13" MacBook Air into the sleeve panel on the back? I've seen photos of a rifle in there.

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depends on the length of the short side. the back sleeve is ever so slightly tapered to match the rest of the pack. it's just shy of about 9 inches wide at the top "mouth" portion of the sleeve.

Posted: 1/18/2015 9:34:29 PM EDT

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Kelty MAP 3500 ( 2 Multicam, 1 Coyote Brown )
Camelbak HAWG (1 Multicam, 1 Coyoye Brown )
S.O. Tech Extended Go Bag
North Face Sprout ( little mans bag )

Posted: 1/18/2015 10:35:42 PM EDT

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CAMELBAK MOTHERLODE

SNOW MARPAT

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Source for that camo?

Posted: 1/19/2015 12:24:59 AM EDT

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Source for that camo?

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CAMELBAK MOTHERLODE

SNOW MARPAT

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Source for that camo?

ebay is probably your best bet.

Posted: 1/19/2015 8:41:29 PM EDT

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Eberlestock Half track, all packed up and ready to go.

Hopefully within the week I'll have my new eberlestock g1 little brother to show off too.

Posted: 1/19/2015 9:54:48 PM EDT

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Kifaru

Posted: 1/22/2015 10:43:40 PM EDT

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Anyone know where to find an MSM Adapt pack? Cant seam to find one anywhere.

Posted: 1/24/2015 9:32:18 AM EDT

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Outdoor Rucks:

The L.L Bean pack is surprisingly well put together for the price.

Posted: 1/24/2015 5:44:57 PM EDT

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

Posted: 1/24/2015 6:34:42 PM EDT

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

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Sounds like a MILTAC Hawg is right up your alley. Look at Half-bear's second picture on page one of this thread for a size comparison. Happy hunting.

Posted: 1/24/2015 6:46:32 PM EDT

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

The TT ROP is actually quite a bit smaller than 1800 cu in.

A larger panel loading pack closer to 1800 cu in, I'd look at the ATS Raid packs for about $30 over your budget. They're listed as 1500 cu in.

A panel loading pack of similar size to the ROP (around 1100-1300 cu in), the Maxpedition Falcon II and Pygmy Falcon are good choices, and well below $150

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

Sounds like a MILTAC Hawg is right up your alley. Look at Half-bear's second picture on page one of this thread for a size comparison. Happy hunting.

A great pack, but not completely panel loading. Zippers go down only 80%.

Posted: 1/24/2015 6:57:20 PM EDT

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

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Eberlestock X3/X4, right size but the main compartment is split by two openings instead of one.

Posted: 2/4/2015 2:15:18 PM EDT

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I'll have to dig through an external drive for some older ones, but here are some I've already uploaded/posted:

Posted: 2/4/2015 2:33:00 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/4/2015 4:58:10 PM EDT

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Ok all you backpack hoarders, can you help me find the pack I'm looking for? The E and E is too small for my needs, but basically what I am looking for. Looking in the size range of about 1800 cubic inches (think TT REmoveable Operator). Color is not a huge deal, but maybe ranger green or foliage. Black would work if the inside is a contrasting color. The main feature I like is the full opening panel loader. It doesn't need any extra pockets for organization, but a hydration compartment would be nice. Price point of around $150. Any thoughts?

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Kifaru showed the 1,500 c.i. Antero at SHOT, and it looks interesting. Sadly, it will most likely come in nowhere near your price point.

Mystery Ranch showed the Java, which will be the heat if it comes in under $200.

As for what's currently available, check out the Kelty 3500. It's a bit larger than what you desire, but the panel opens all the way, and the price is right. The Kelty 1800, which I have, fits your size requirement at a friendly price, but the panel does not open all the way. The eternal search continues . . .

Posted: 2/5/2015 5:22:48 PM EDT

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Picked up a Mystery Ranch NICE frame last night, what would you guys recommend for a bag? I am looking at the 6500 and the Wolf series right now. Possibly the Trizip Overload but they seem hard to find.