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Posted: 6/5/2013 4:17:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ssgtcarroll]
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This will be updated as I can hopefully you guys don't beat me up to bad. First part is the conversion info for converting your Sordin Lemo style headsets to work with commercial radios. I will cover these steps: 1. Convert connector to U93 2. Remove PCB inside headset that's no longer used 3. Convert dynamic MIC to an Electret MIC Second part will be a cable and mic delete conversion. I will cover these step: 1. Cable Removal 2. Mic Removal 3. Parts to full the holes to give a nice finished product. Notes on the full conversion: Parts needed: (You can supplement your shrink tubing of choice. I like to use adhesive type. Also the solder of your choice. Do NOT supplement the connector or microphone) U93 Connector: (If you can find cheaper let me know) http://www.westfloridacomponents.com/HW017PD/view.html Electret Microphone: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/PUI-Audio/PNM-5250L-R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtcsMZaWNSqu7Rhi7egPHDEurlxxjwu4ww%3d Solder: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MG-Chemicals/4870-18G/?qs=%2fha2pyFadug04CfCcw2N%252bWJL%252bl6CCpAKDH%2fktACyS5A%3d Shrink Turbing: 1/4": http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Qualtek/Q5-2X-1-4-01-QB6IN-20/?qs=%2fha2pyFadui%2fhp3Xt7zacdVqlv6P%252bwB3avggFuvQW1PmkfEog28dEq9rttsT1jgd 1/16" http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=tEOwSubfllk5IoKXvU%2fWOw%3d%3d Tools Needed: (Links to the units I have) Fine Detail Solder Gun: (Do not use a large one) http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weller-18-Watt-Soldering-Iron-WPS18MP/202077464#.Ua-aWZyv91s Hex crimping tool: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062636&znt_campaign=Category_CMS&znt_source=CAT&znt_medium=RSCOM&znt_content=CT2032236 Wire Stripper: Any work Cable Stripper: (You can supplement this with a razor blade but be cautious) http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062637 T8 Hand Driver: Any work Small Slotted Screw Driver: Any work Small needle nose pliers: Any work Hot Glue Gun and Sticks: Any work, steal your wifes Heat Gun: Any work, Hairdryer doesn't Razor Blade: Real sharp one works great ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- More when I can.................. |
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[Last Edit: ssgtcarroll]
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Interested.
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SSgt, youll have to forgive the dumb question here from a n MP, but Im pretty comm illiterate, so what I was wondering is if this same process would work for a Harris PRC-152 headset to connect it to a Motorola, model similar to a Sabre. I hope you can shed some light on this for me, its going to be a post deployment project.
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Originally Posted By Leprechaun5811:
SSgt, youll have to forgive the dumb question here from a n MP, but Im pretty comm illiterate, so what I was wondering is if this same process would work for a Harris PRC-152 headset to connect it to a Motorola, model similar to a Sabre. I hope you can shed some light on this for me, its going to be a post deployment project. Not a dumb question. Do you have the model of the headset? PRC152 is the radio itself. The procedure should be the same but the pin out may be different. I can assist with figuring this out if needed. As to an update on progress... Sorry for the delay working some odd hours this week. I will try to get back on it this weekend. |
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Ssgt, thanks for sharing this valuable info...
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Be aware the saber uses zener diodes to apply different voltages to a pin on the universal connector which which sensed will enable audio on that connector and disable the internal speaker. There should be some info over at the batlabs site.
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I don't know what you are talking about. Sounds like you might be doing drugs or something.
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[Last Edit: Leprechaun5811]
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Im not positive about the name of the headset, even our comm guy doesnt know the specific name for the headset. I have two,they are both 5-pin with PTT switches.One is black, hooks over the ears and around the back of the head, the second is green, has an elastic band that circles the head and green mesh that goes over the top, it has two PTT options, one that attaches to your gear and another you can run to your weapon system for comm during a fire fight. I tried finding pictures of either online but all I can find is Peltor gear. Both of these are issued headsets. I hope iI've been able to give you an idea of what I have here. I can work on pictures if that helps.
EDIT: The green headset is marked 'HARRIS', according to my comm guy its what is supposed to be sl3 issue with the radio. |
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Will you be doing a "how to" remove the mic and plug?
Thanks |
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Originally Posted By RobDog:
Will you be doing a "how to" remove the mic and plug? Thanks Yes sir. Sorry for the delay guys. |
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Originally Posted By ssgtcarroll:
Originally Posted By RobDog:
Will you be doing a "how to" remove the mic and plug? Thanks Yes sir. Sorry for the delay guys. No prob Thanks! |
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Some updates.
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Originally Posted By ssgtcarroll:
Some updates. View Quote Some damn nice updates. Thanks ssgtcarroll! I've got two pair of the surplus MSA Sordins. This week I received my mic capsules, TP-102 and TJ-102 connectors. They will be used with HX370Ss. I will be looking for PTT assemblies soon, and they ain't cheap. |
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You can make your own PTT too if you want.
I can post the links to the materials if you want. |
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Thanks. Yes, I was planning on making my own. It's the cost of the individual switch that's up there; I like the Invisio M15 best.
Looks like I will settle for the old school U-94 A/U. |
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"Eh, I'd say Lil' Wayne is... about a 2/3 IPSC."
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ssgtcarroll,
What glue sticks are you using? I am researching the dilectric properties of some; from the bit I've read the polyvinyl type are a no-go, but the polypropylene type are OK. |
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"Eh, I'd say Lil' Wayne is... about a 2/3 IPSC."
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Originally Posted By FN_form:
ssgtcarroll, What glue sticks are you using? I am researching the dilectric properties of some; from the bit I've read the polyvinyl type are a no-go, but the polypropylene type are OK. View Quote Interesting observation. I have tons of them and do not have the original paperwork. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Ever tried doing this to hook up Peltor Comtac's to a Yaesu VX-8DR?
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I never did mess with the peltors.
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I have two sets of sordins..one with the lemo plug and one that is the tp120 dual comm...which would be the better candidate to connect to a yaesu vx8dr? Hand held ham radio?
I'm thinking impedance issues and mic conversions item....have the u93a ptt TIA... |
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Originally Posted By fosters:
I have two sets of sordins..one with the lemo plug and one that is the tp120 dual comm...which would be the better candidate to connect to a yaesu vx8dr? Hand held ham radio? I'm thinking impedance issues and mic conversions item....have the u93a ptt TIA... View Quote Looks like we have had a member who did this to VX-7DR and said no issues: http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_10_22/629696__ARCHIVED_THREAD____yaesu_vx7r_compatible_with_peltor_comtacs___.html&page=1#i10747495 And looks like another member had issues and corrected them with a procedure that looks like this: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_10/393881_Peltor_Mil_Headsets_With_Any_Radio___How_To_Do_It.html |
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*nvm* Found it
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I have a question. I recently did the plug conversion to my Sordins and I have a PTT with the amp mod done to it. When the antenna is not blocked by my hand or body I seem to be getting RF interference when I key up. The radio is a Baofeng UV5R+ and the PTT is one of the Nexus PTTs.
Any ideas? Shielding or an RF choke? Any tips please? Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
I have a question. I recently did the plug conversion to my Sordins and I have a PTT with the amp mod done to it. When the antenna is not blocked by my hand or body I seem to be getting RF interference when I key up. The radio is a Baofeng UV5R+ and the PTT is one of the Nexus PTTs. Any ideas? Shielding or an RF choke? Any tips please? Thanks. View Quote This is something I experienced once or twice as well. I never really did work it out so if anyone has some ideas I'm all ears. |
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Wrapping the cable in stainless steel or aluminum insect screening material.and then duct-taping the screening might help a bit. Or try aluminum foil wrap with duct tape. FAR from an ideal solution, but it might help.
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"The M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." General George S. Patton Jr.,US Army
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ssgtcarroll,
Thank you for posting up this tutorial. I've assembled all the components to convert my headset, I have just one question on wiring the microphone. You show using a multimeter to check continuity of the mic wiring to the plug, I'm assuming this is to differentiate between the + and - for the mic. My question is for the "Microphone, High" and "Microphone, Low" which is the + or - on the mic? (i.e is Microphone, High + or - ?) Thanks |
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Microphone low (-) is the case of the microphone. High is the connection that doesn't connect to the case.
If you get them switched you can just switch the connection where the PCB is removed. |
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I have cut off the U-229 end. I see a white, black, green, and yellow wire. What wire is for ground, mic, ground, etc..?
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If you still have the connector and can see the colors,
http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/usa/u229/index.htm |
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Thanks for the info it helped. So far I have made a cable for my android smartphone. I was unable to wire up the ptt button to use it with the cell phone. I eventual want to figure out how to wire up the ptt for use.
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Anyone in here capable of repairing a set of Peltor COMTAC IIs? One of the mics (left ear) is dead, and it's pretty fuckin' annoying only being able to use one side. Peltor wants $300 at a minimum to repair that pair.
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Nothing ever happens in Berezino.
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Do I have to do anything If I just want to switch out the mic from dynamic to electric? Or do I still have to cut out that PCB that's shrink wrapped?
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Quick question: anybody have a clue wear I can buy a Peltor Comtac II battery cover? I lost one of mine, and what should be a very easy fix is defeating me.
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@ssgtcarroll
Any chance you could replace the missing photographs in your first post, Staff Sarn't? Thanks!! |
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Thanks for the tutorial. What is the plastic piece that you have on the mic after you replaced with the electret mic? I may have another few questions before I attempt this project. Much thanks.
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I'm gonna bump this for the same reason as above. I have a dual-comm setup coming in. I will be converting the mic element myself using the Mouser/DigiKey part in the How-To... but other than some hot glue and a pair of solder joints... what is missing from the write-up? Is the clear plastic barrier something that was added... or part of the OEM assembly?
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Originally Posted By AlexTheSquid:
I'm gonna bump this for the same reason as above. I have a dual-comm setup coming in. I will be converting the mic element myself using the Mouser/DigiKey part in the How-To... but other than some hot glue and a pair of solder joints... what is missing from the write-up? Is the clear plastic barrier something that was added... or part of the OEM assembly? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ssgtcarroll: OEM View Quote It would be nice if I could convert these to the newer MSA/SRS Avenger style electret boom like I've done with some TCI Liberators... but I hate the idea of drilling a new hole and plugging the old. |
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I set Thread Status to Non-Archive. That means it will always be somewhere in this Forum, and won't "disappear" into the Archives. You might have to search for it a little bit, but it won't go away.
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"The M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." General George S. Patton Jr.,US Army
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Could you please update your photbucket, sir.
This thread is so informative and a super good guide, it would be a shame if it became lost or unusable. |
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I second this
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[Last Edit: AlexSchneider]
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Originally Posted By ssgtcarroll: Won't work with it in place. TEA cuts it out as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ssgtcarroll: Originally Posted By SIG2f3: Do I have to do anything If I just want to switch out the mic from dynamic to electric? Or do I still have to cut out that PCB that's shrink wrapped? Won't work with it in place. TEA cuts it out as well. Please can you tell me what this PCB is for and why it has to be removed? Is it correctly that if I change Lemo connector for a TP120 I made a 75310 Headset out of a 75305? Would be very nice if you reupload the pics. Thanks for all your great work. |
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@ssgtcarrol
I sent you an email |
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Hoping to get some help with the electret mic install. I ordered the mic from mouser that was provided in the link, but what I received was a 6mm mic. I verified the part numbers and its correct to what was linked. Unfortunately the pictures in the thread have been nuked by Photobucket so I cant see the install. Is this the correct mic for this? Please help, I am at a dead end.
Thanks ETA: Thanks for the response SSGT!!. That is the correct mic, I bedded it in hot glue as instructed. I will have some pics if anyone needs assistance since the pics in thread got nuked. But only after I verify function when my PTT gets here. |
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In for making frankencomms...
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