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Posted: 3/6/2012 3:22:00 AM

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I've found a good deal on a tactical helmet by OM Tactical ACH -1 Level IIIA Helmet

Is that one good to go or should I choose another brand or version? Is OM a high quality manufacturer?

Is level IIIA the best it gets for helmets usually?
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Posted: 3/6/2012 7:00:52 AM
Never heard of them. I would have to say that MSA is probably the most common and one of the best brand out there. I have an MSA ACH and love it. Very high quality. And yeah, level III is the standard for helmets.
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Posted: 3/6/2012 7:11:54 AM
I do believe RBR is now OM tactical..... I could be wrong! But There is a ARFCOM dealer that sells OM Tactical ACH's.... You could probably IM him and ask.

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Posted: 3/6/2012 7:43:56 AM
Originally Posted By Dru:
I do believe RBR is now OM tactical..... I could be wrong! But There is a ARFCOM dealer that sells OM Tactical ACH's.... You could probably IM him and ask.

Daniel from gun safari!


If so, RBR is good to go.
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Posted: 3/6/2012 7:51:53 AM
So I picked up one of their ACH 3 / MICH 2001 style helmets on the cheap from someone on ebay. It looks good to go but it's not the exact same as a 2001 the chin harness holes are off where you'd see them on a MSA/Gentex / whatever.


Other than that it appears good to go
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Posted: 3/6/2012 12:18:40 PM
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I'm currently awaiting the arrival of an OM Tactical ACH-2.... this is there version of the MICH 2002.
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Posted: 3/6/2012 3:54:10 PM
Originally Posted By joshr502:
Never heard of them. I would have to say that MSA is probably the most common and one of the best brand out there. I have an MSA ACH and love it. Very high quality. And yeah, level III is the standard for helmets.


+1 I love my MSA ACH. I'm gonna have to upgrade to the Team Wendy or the Ops pads though. No matter how I arrange them, I can't get a fitt that is both snug and comfortable on my oddly shaped head . I probly would have done better with an XL to allow for more pad thickness (I really need at least one or two 1/2in at this point), but oh well the TW should fix the issue.
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Posted: 3/6/2012 11:22:23 PM
Originally Posted By thatguywiththeak:
Originally Posted By joshr502:
Never heard of them. I would have to say that MSA is probably the most common and one of the best brand out there. I have an MSA ACH and love it. Very high quality. And yeah, level III is the standard for helmets.


+1 I love my MSA ACH. I'm gonna have to upgrade to the Team Wendy or the Ops pads though. No matter how I arrange them, I can't get a fitt that is both snug and comfortable on my oddly shaped head . I probly would have done better with an XL to allow for more pad thickness (I really need at least one or two 1/2in at this point), but oh well the TW should fix the issue.


Team Wendy pads are good. I use the Oregon Aero pads and I love them.
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Posted: 3/8/2012 2:15:15 AM
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Originally Posted By joshr502:
Never heard of them. I would have to say that MSA is probably the most common and one of the best brand out there. I have an MSA ACH and love it. Very high quality. And yeah, level III is the standard for helmets.


I know you meant level IIIA, just making sure others do. I did see a company a while back that offered an actual level III helmet, but I can't imagine high survivability rates from high powered rifle hits to the head. Penetration or not I'd expect some serious back face deformity.

EDIT: Found this: http://www.bodyarmorcompany.com/retail/products.php?productID=HELECHAS600&dept=Helmets I noticed it lists it's NIJ level III cert according to the much older 0101.01 standards, which I believe is from 1978, which was the M80 ball round at a fairly slow speed.
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Posted: 3/8/2012 6:34:54 AM
Originally Posted By IFBBjuicemonkey:
Originally Posted By joshr502:
Never heard of them. I would have to say that MSA is probably the most common and one of the best brand out there. I have an MSA ACH and love it. Very high quality. And yeah, level III is the standard for helmets.


I know you meant level IIIA, just making sure others do. I did see a company a while back that offered an actual level III helmet, but I can't imagine high survivability rates from high powered rifle hits to the head. Penetration or not I'd expect some serious back face deformity.

EDIT: Found this: http://www.bodyarmorcompany.com/retail/products.php?productID=HELECHAS600&dept=Helmets I noticed it lists it's NIJ level III cert according to the much older 0101.01 standards, which I believe is from 1978, which was the M80 ball round at a fairly slow speed.


Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I did mean level IIIA.
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Posted: 3/9/2012 3:02:19 AM
Here is their website, they don't have prices listed though: OM Tactical

Do you guys think they are just as good as the MSA's?
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Posted: 3/9/2012 8:27:21 AM
Originally Posted By JohnnyScience:
Here is their website, they don't have prices listed though: OM Tactical

Do you guys think they are just as good as the MSA's?


Again coming from a guy that owns one.. .they are different the cut isn't the same.

mid cut is more like sort of mid cut.. high cut is sort of high cut. and you can't mount ARC rails on them because the screws are in funky spots
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Posted: 3/9/2012 10:27:00 AM
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Hmm. Does anyone know who has the MSA's in stock for the best price? They were going on eBay for $150 shipped and I missed the deal. Looking for black.

And just double checking the size I need, I just tried on a fitted cap that was 7 3/8 and it fit snug on my head, not to where it was uncomfortable, but enough so the wind won't blow it off. Apparnetly MSA's Large futs up o 8 1/4 which doesnt leave much room. If I plan on upgrading to Team Wendy pads, am I still good to go with a large? Or should I get an extra large? I don't want the helmet to give me a headache for being too tight, but then I also don't want it too loose and wobbling all over.

Thoughts?
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Posted: 3/9/2012 11:58:55 PM
My hat size is 7 5/8. I have an MSA in XL with size 6 pads. I would suggest getting a new helmet vs something used off ebay. When it comes to life saving equipment, I would always buy new. You never know how the last person treated that item. I just bought another helmet to be shipped over here for my wife from TNVC. It was $542.09 shipped. That's a bit more than I bought my first one for, but this was also one of the few places I found that actually had them in stock. They are also one of the few places that offer multiple colors (they have it in black like you want). Most places will just sell one color and tell you to spray paint it. That's what i did with my first one. I bought it in green and painted it tan.
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JohnnyScience

OM Tactical is a very good company that makes good products. MSA is another good company too.
I have a MICH ACH 3 made by OM Tactical in black and absolutely love it. It has the upgraded Wendy Epic Pads, Notoros Universal Shroud, MS-2000 strobe with SOE pouch and a Surefire Helmet Light. It doesn't feel heavy to me buy I don't wear it 8 hours a day.

The OM Tactical ACH 3 helmet is just like the MSA ts2001 (high cut). Can't go wrong with either one.
If you go with the OM Tactical ACH 3, you won't be able to add side rails.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 12:50:05 AM
Originally Posted By diluted:
So I picked up one of their ACH 3 / MICH 2001 style helmets on the cheap from someone on ebay. It looks good to go but it's not the exact same as a 2001 the chin harness holes are off where you'd see them on a MSA/Gentex / whatever.


Other than that it appears good to go


I know what you mean...I got one too but...I love it! Can't mount rails but that's all right with me. I got enough crap on it. LOL It feels light to me.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 7:47:28 AM
Originally Posted By desertrat:
Originally Posted By diluted:
So I picked up one of their ACH 3 / MICH 2001 style helmets on the cheap from someone on ebay. It looks good to go but it's not the exact same as a 2001 the chin harness holes are off where you'd see them on a MSA/Gentex / whatever.


Other than that it appears good to go


I know what you mean...I got one too but...I love it! Can't mount rails but that's all right with me. I got enough crap on it. LOL It feels light to me.


Did you just end up drilling holes for the NVG mount or using a ratchet ?
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Posted: 4/24/2012 2:49:31 PM
I've got a Kejo™ high cut helmet

Here is a pic from the website. Owner said this was a "thank you" pic sent to him from the SF guys that were wearing the helmets.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 2:53:50 PM
I just drilled 3 holes and put some sealer in there. The shroud is very secure too but they aren't cheap. I paid $150.00 for a new black one and had to wait 2 months. I use the Rhino mount for my NVG's.
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Originally Posted By desertrat:
I just drilled 3 holes and put some sealer in there.


I've noticed the front contour of the Kejo helmet doesn't work well with the 3 hole shrouds. Is yours the same as well?
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Posted: 4/25/2012 11:33:09 PM
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Originally Posted By desertrat:
I just drilled 3 holes and put some sealer in there.


I've noticed the front contour of the Kejo helmet doesn't work well with the 3 hole shrouds. Is yours the same as well?


The Notoros Universal Shroud fits perfectly...no gaps at all. Like I said it's just a little pricy. The Ops-Core shroud is a little cheaper in price and well made too.