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Posted: 9/18/2011 10:36:10 PM
Who else makes a pack like THIS . I really like the concept so I can ditch the standard assault pack for something a little bit more mission specific.
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Posted: 9/18/2011 10:38:32 PM
Ares Armor, TAG and First Spear off the top of my head.
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Posted: 9/18/2011 11:00:20 PM
The new first spear pack is pretty cool. It will attach and quick detach too. Also Eagle makes the YOTE and the MAP. (the MAP is more of a Hydration carrier with space.)
The PIG line is always expanding too but nothing coming out to fit your needs in the near future.
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Posted: 9/18/2011 11:07:11 PM
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
The new first spear pack is pretty cool. It will attach and quick detach too. Also Eagle makes the YOTE and the MAP. (the MAP is more of a Hydration carrier with space.)
The PIG line is always expanding too but nothing coming out to fit your needs in the near future.
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Maybe this should be some motivation
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Posted: 9/21/2011 10:35:30 AM
Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version.

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Posted: 9/21/2011 1:08:37 PM
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version.

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You opened up the floodgates there!

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Posted: 9/21/2011 1:14:00 PM
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version.

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*very* interested in this one...

I have tried quite a few odf the small assulat packs out and none have quite been to my liking, very curious to see what you have come up with!
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Posted: 9/21/2011 3:19:12 PM
Originally Posted By jinx667:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version.

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You opened up the floodgates there!



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Posted: 9/21/2011 8:42:19 PM
Yeah.... I know. We have a lot of irons in the fire with the PIG line as we continue to expand it. Trust me, right before a release of a new product I get pretty antsy, probably more so than our PIG fans.

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Posted: 9/21/2011 11:08:50 PM
In the words of magpul in 2007"we're coming out with this rifle called the Masada, but don't keep bothering us about it". ;)

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Posted: 9/21/2011 11:27:08 PM
Kifaru E&E pack

I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack.
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Posted: 9/22/2011 11:58:08 AM
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Kifaru E&E pack

I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack.


Yep, I have one too. The Tactical Tailor offering looks like a cool little pack with more features than the Kifaru at the same price. I got the Kifaru because it was used, and because I have a TON of Kifaru stuff.
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Posted: 9/22/2011 12:12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By SIG2f3:
Kifaru E&E pack

I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack.


Yep, I have one too. The Tactical Tailor offering looks like a cool little pack with more features than the Kifaru at the same price. I got the Kifaru because it was used, and because I have a TON of Kifaru stuff.


I have a Kifaru showing up next Monday, and I plan on ordeering a TT pack to do a head to head coparison. I also have a Hawkepak 24 pack, and an Eagle Yote and a Ares Combat XII. Of the three I have, all three leave something to be desired (Hawkepak has best layout but crappy, primitive straps, Eagle Yote is heavy and fixed config, Ares layout is a bit funky.)

Hoping to find the "just right" pack, I may have to just have one knocked out. The First Spear looks nice, but the $230 price tag is not in line with all the other "light assault pack" designs IMHO.
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Posted: 9/22/2011 12:15:56 PM
Combat XII Pack Easy to Attach and Great Design
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Posted: 9/22/2011 2:03:38 PM
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In the words of magpul in 2007"we're coming out with this rifle called the Masada, but don't keep bothering us about it". ;)

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Ouch! While I'm a huge fan of Magpul, and I'm sure there are factors, way out of their control, for the delayed release of the Masada but if any of our designs take that long I will boil the first one made and eat it on youtube for everyone to see. Bet no other company has offered to physically eat a product if it can't be released in a timely manner - BTW SKD probably won't sign off on me eating a PIG assault pack but I'll do it on my own dime if that day comes.

As far as Kifaru's E&E pack, you guys will love it. I own three packs from Kifaru and love each one. They have a few deployments in them and other than my krylon camo jobs on them still look and work perfectly.

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Posted: 9/22/2011 2:46:20 PM
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I was just pointing out that saying something is coming out around here is like leaving a trash can out with no lid in the mountains, the bears are coming

I have an old Generation 1 E&E it's fine, I still want to see this new thing you guys have.

That Ares armor pack is available from somewhere with matching ATACS molle, I resisted the urge but a neat looking little pack
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Posted: 9/22/2011 3:13:30 PM
The matching webbing rocks. Perhaps it is overkill with all your pouches and loaded on, but it looks good when you are going with the pack alone.
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Posted: 9/24/2011 2:58:41 PM
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I have never been a big fan of assault-packs, or similar-sized objects, that attach directly to vests/plate carriers/etc., for a variety of reasons.

Generally speaking, they are not so easy to attach while wearing the carrier. Most are easy enough to detach, but without a buddy handy, re-attaching them is problematic unless the carrier is doffed to do so. Sometimes that might not be practical. If you are on the run, it is a lot easier and quicker to don a shoulder-strapped assault pack than to re-attach one to your carrier.
Secondly, if the carried object lacks shoulder straps, that obviously lessens its' versatility. You cannot wear it unless you wear the carrier with matching QD buckles. If optional shoulder straps can be attached, then you have the added complexity of QD buckles for the shoulder straps, and possibly added expense, as opposed to an object with simpler, dedicated shoulder straps.
Speaking of QD buckles, wearing a heavily-loaded 3-day pack might be getting close to the weight limits on some, standard QD buckles. It's been done, but note that fastex makes a QD buckle (not easily found) that is intended for greater weights than the usual QD buckle. "SnapDragons", IIRC. I have some, and they are FAR stronger than standard QD buckles, for a very slight weight increase––a few grams, I suppose.

Frankly, and IMHO, It seems to me to be less of a bother and more versatile to use an assault pack with decent, fairly thin shoulder straps. I understand that as-configured, some rigs make shoulder straps problematic; in that instance, I would suggest re-thinking the rig's layout so that shoulder straps are not a precluded option.

In the event that shoulder straps are not at all an option, the wise person would make sure to have a couple of male and female field-expedient replacement QD buckles always on hand. Stashing then in the bottom of the detachable object might be a good idea.

If you do buy a pack or other object that attaches directly to your carrier, I urge you to pick up an inexpensive pair of surplus ALICE shoulder straps. The LC-1 version (most common) stinks when wearing a full ALICE pack, but they have plenty of padding for most smaller objects. Lots of other vendors/mfrs offer similar, often on sale. These shoulder straps can easily be configured with QD buckles to attach to your object, and experimenting with this inexpensive alternative might be worthwhile. Make sure to add a sternum strap; some webbing, a QD buckle, and a couple of tri-glides is all that is required to do so, and it makes a world of difference. Mandatory, really.

YMMV.
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Posted: 9/25/2011 1:58:15 PM
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TAG*

This has my intrest as I have had thoughts on something like this. I know its more of a nitch thing but I have several times, just loaded up my water bladder pouch with extra gear. I have found a few times, I have had to do 8-12 hour foot patrols and just liked having the extra gear. In the sense of working in the desrt during the winter, some extra shirts for the cold, a MRE or two, some basic extra survival gear and throw in a some water bottles. Nothing I would need in a urgent matter or nothing my partner couldnt get out for me. I have plenty of packs, but all too big that got in the way more with the straps etc. Or add to the bulk in the back because running with a full vest and plate is a pain, let alone trying to work through very hostile bush county, smaller profile the better.



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Posted: 9/25/2011 2:32:27 PM
I decided to go with the Ares option with matching webbing on my plate carriers. I picked up a Crye JPC as I wanted a plate carrier that could be very minimalist and work under an oversized jacket while still having the ability to load it up if concealment wasn't the primary concern. That meant the back had to be clean with the option of attaching a pack.

Since I also wanted the front to be as compact as possible I didn't add any primary magazine pouches to it, just the three that can fit in the internal pouch. The Ares has room for 6 more primary magazines at the top.

The other main factor was a medical kit. I normally use the Blue Force Gear Trauma Kit Now but in order to maintain the slimmest profile the med supplies went into the pack. The Ares bottom outer pouch has zip openings on both sides which allows for getting to the contents with just one good hand possible from either side, just pop the release buckles and swing the pack in front of you. Add in the releasable shoulder straps are light and small enough to stow in the main compartment it provides a great amount of flexibility.

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The front of the JPC


Where I have the QR buckles located for the pack


And the pack. Still need to get a hydration bladder for it.


And to keep commonality I also switched my Eagle PC over to the same design.



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Posted: 9/25/2011 10:42:05 PM
YAKRAT, who makes that small admin pouch on the front? I like that.
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Posted: 9/25/2011 10:55:17 PM
Looks like a Milspec Monkey patch panel.
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Posted: 9/26/2011 1:04:08 PM
Originally Posted By jinx667:
Looks like a Milspec Monkey patch panel.


That it is. Other admin pouches were always a little too big for my needs and this is nice and slim. I usually have a slim sharpie and a pen in the PALS loops to the left of it.
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Posted: 9/26/2011 1:18:41 PM
I have a Kifaru E &E and a Tactical Tailor whatever theirs is called. I've only used them on packs but they have some utility in being able to unclip the smaller pack and reattach it.

The tactical tailor one did get a rip in the partition between the two sections and it wasn't like I had a bunch of rocks or knives in there.
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Posted: 9/30/2011 6:44:31 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I have a Kifaru E &E and a Tactical Tailor whatever theirs is called. I've only used them on packs but they have some utility in being able to unclip the smaller pack and reattach it.

The tactical tailor one did get a rip in the partition between the two sections and it wasn't like I had a bunch of rocks or knives in there.


I know you have a self-admitted fetish for assault packs. Here's your go-to Spec-Ops, SEAL, UDT pack:http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/US-Military-SOF-Water-resistant-Backpack-CBR-Bag-8465015005484.html.
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Posted: 10/4/2011 12:53:38 PM
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Originally Posted By jinx667:
Looks like a Milspec Monkey patch panel.


That it is. Other admin pouches were always a little too big for my needs and this is nice and slim. I usually have a slim sharpie and a pen in the PALS loops to the left of it.



Does anyone have the Ares Raider Admin pouch. Looks simple enough, but I can't get a gauge on size from the photo.

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