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Originally Posted By ecgRN: Think I like. Gotta go LARP and see what's what. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/608732b5d661e156731585-1920090.jpg View Quote Looks good homie. I think I’m going to grab the haley rig too. |
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HSP inserts are reeeeally tight. Really tight.
Like dig for your old mags with Ranger Plate tight. |
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callmenoshie: "saying that females have the potential to be "bat shit crazy" is like saying the sky has the potential to be blue."
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I don't find it too terribly bulky. Pretty impressive IFAK fits in the pouch.
I can't see those inserts lossening over time much. Videos make it look easy. There are some hacks I'm be looking into as well. I really like the IFAK pouch. |
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52 minutes of Rangers gettin' down with all kinds of fun stuff. Lots of current/modern PC setups included. I'll be posting this in a few relevant threads...
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Thinking about getting rid of my JPC 2 for something more comfortable and less minimalist. Anyone have any suggestions? Would like the option of using tubes at least one one side to take the PC on/off faster. Some kind of pack panel compatibility would be nice, and placard compatibility is a must have. I already have adapters if needed.
Was looking at the Daeoon, and K19 but open to other options. |
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Originally Posted By Yumago: Thinking about getting rid of my JPC 2 for something more comfortable and less minimalist. Anyone have any suggestions? Would like the option of using tubes at least one one side to take the PC on/off faster. Some kind of pack panel compatibility would be nice, and placard compatibility is a must have. I already have adapters if needed. Was looking at the Daeoon, and K19 but open to other options. View Quote I just put on some PIG should pads on my JPC and it made a world of difference. $30 vs $200+ |
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Originally Posted By Yumago: Thinking about getting rid of my JPC 2 for something more comfortable and less minimalist. Anyone have any suggestions? Would like the option of using tubes at least one one side to take the PC on/off faster. Some kind of pack panel compatibility would be nice, and placard compatibility is a must have. I already have adapters if needed. Was looking at the Daeoon, and K19 but open to other options. View Quote What plates are you using? Also, I think Saber Solutions has a tubes modification for the cummerbund, and the JPC2.0 already is compatible with the Crye back panels. AXL or Quore shoulder pads are also pretty great. |
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Originally Posted By iceboatguy: What plates are you using? Also, I think Saber Solutions has a tubes modification for the cummerbund, and the JPC2.0 already is compatible with the Crye back panels. AXL or Quore shoulder pads are also pretty great. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By iceboatguy: Originally Posted By Yumago: Thinking about getting rid of my JPC 2 for something more comfortable and less minimalist. Anyone have any suggestions? Would like the option of using tubes at least one one side to take the PC on/off faster. Some kind of pack panel compatibility would be nice, and placard compatibility is a must have. I already have adapters if needed. Was looking at the Daeoon, and K19 but open to other options. What plates are you using? Also, I think Saber Solutions has a tubes modification for the cummerbund, and the JPC2.0 already is compatible with the Crye back panels. AXL or Quore shoulder pads are also pretty great. Qore are amazing. Have them on my slickster and it's night and day better. |
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Originally Posted By iceboatguy: What plates are you using? Also, I think Saber Solutions has a tubes modification for the cummerbund, and the JPC2.0 already is compatible with the Crye back panels. AXL or Quore shoulder pads are also pretty great. View Quote I have Hesco 3810 and Saber Solutions tubes already. The only thing I don't like it's how much longer it takes to adjust the plate carrier if I put it in over a jacket. The MOS Tactical SPAV-W looks promising, pricy but that doesn't bother me. |
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Anyone with a JPC/JPC 2.0 and correctly sized plates will tell you that accessing the admin pouch is a RPITA.
AXL Advanced has got a fix for that... Behold, the Admin Zipper for the Crye JPC and JPC 2.0. Attached File Front side is loop faced. Attached File Back side is hook faced. Attached File Installed, it makes the admin pouch opening stand out a little but not enough to interfere with accessing mags. Attached File You'll love your newly discovered space! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Anyone with a JPC/JPC 2.0 and correctly sized plates will tell you that accessing the admin pouch is a RPITA. AXL Advanced has got a fix for that... Behold, the Admin Zipper for the Crye JPC and JPC 2.0. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195126587_jpg-1926002.JPG Front side is loop faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195229542_jpg-1926006.JPG Back side is hook faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195241907_jpg-1926007.JPG Installed, it makes the admin pouch opening stand out a little but not enough to interfere with accessing mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195840449_jpg-1926016.JPG You'll love your newly discovered space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_200139903_jpg-1926017.JPG View Quote |
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callmenoshie: "saying that females have the potential to be "bat shit crazy" is like saying the sky has the potential to be blue."
XCRmonger: "I've seen German Shit Porn that was sexier." |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Anyone with a JPC/JPC 2.0 and correctly sized plates will tell you that accessing the admin pouch is a RPITA. AXL Advanced has got a fix for that... Behold, the Admin Zipper for the Crye JPC and JPC 2.0. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195126587_jpg-1926002.JPG Front side is loop faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195229542_jpg-1926006.JPG Back side is hook faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195241907_jpg-1926007.JPG Installed, it makes the admin pouch opening stand out a little but not enough to interfere with accessing mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195840449_jpg-1926016.JPG You'll love your newly discovered space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_200139903_jpg-1926017.JPG View Quote That's a nifty idea. |
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This decision is a freedom calculus decided long ago by Colonists . . . . The freedom they fought for was not free of cost then, and it is not free now. - Honorable Judge Roger T. Benitez
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I love my Javlin A-JAC
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This decision is a freedom calculus decided long ago by Colonists . . . . The freedom they fought for was not free of cost then, and it is not free now. - Honorable Judge Roger T. Benitez
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Anyone with a JPC/JPC 2.0 and correctly sized plates will tell you that accessing the admin pouch is a RPITA. AXL Advanced has got a fix for that... Behold, the Admin Zipper for the Crye JPC and JPC 2.0. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195126587_jpg-1926002.JPG Front side is loop faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195229542_jpg-1926006.JPG Back side is hook faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195241907_jpg-1926007.JPG Installed, it makes the admin pouch opening stand out a little but not enough to interfere with accessing mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195840449_jpg-1926016.JPG You'll love your newly discovered space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_200139903_jpg-1926017.JPG View Quote I ordered one just over 3 months ago, still waiting. I know that AXL makes their products to order, but this is turning into a long 6-8 week lead time. |
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Originally Posted By vjf915: I ordered one just over 3 months ago, still waiting. I know that AXL makes their products to order, but this is turning into a long 6-8 week lead time. View Quote Would be worth emailing CS. I forgot about an order, think it was like 3 months on a Crye adapter and they sent one out the next day with extra stickers. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Anyone with a JPC/JPC 2.0 and correctly sized plates will tell you that accessing the admin pouch is a RPITA. AXL Advanced has got a fix for that... Behold, the Admin Zipper for the Crye JPC and JPC 2.0. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195126587_jpg-1926002.JPG Front side is loop faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195229542_jpg-1926006.JPG Back side is hook faced. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195241907_jpg-1926007.JPG Installed, it makes the admin pouch opening stand out a little but not enough to interfere with accessing mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_195840449_jpg-1926016.JPG You'll love your newly discovered space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210501_200139903_jpg-1926017.JPG View Quote I want this. Any place that keeps it on stock? Last thing I ordered from axl took 4 months. |
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Originally Posted By northcoastwizard: Would be worth emailing CS. I forgot about an order, think it was like 3 months on a Crye adapter and they sent one out the next day with extra stickers. View Quote I emailed them when I first placed the order because the lead times are pretty obscure, they quoted 6-8 weeks. About 10 weeks in I emailed again, they said within 2 weeks. That was just over 2 weeks ago. Planning to give it until 3 weeks and email again. Honestly I don't mind waiting, I just wish the lead times were more accurate. |
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Originally Posted By Doodles: Which cummerbund did you get? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/485060/IMG_1716_JPG-1926475.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Doodles: Originally Posted By HIPPO: I love my Javlin A-JAC Which cummerbund did you get? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/485060/IMG_1716_JPG-1926475.jpg Tubes. All day. Have worn stuff without it back in the day. Wish I had tubes back then. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Get me a measurement and pics of the opening. View Quote @PFran42 I’ve been looking for something like this for a LBT 6094A,V2 but AXL doesn’t list the measurement. Admin pocket is 7” wide 5” deep. Edit- it’s more like 6-1/2” wide. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By FONTY: @PFran42 I’ve been looking for something like this for a LBT 6094A,V2 but AXL doesn’t list the measurement. Admin pocket is 7” wide 5” deep. Edit- it’s more like 6-1/2” wide. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/FCDC8409-64E4-45F8-BC58-52CE38840F38_jpe-1927419.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/941294D7-3C28-4406-9B78-6FE7ACB9ED4D_jpe-1927522.JPG View Quote @FONTY Does the pocket follow the lines of the pencils? If so, I don't think the AXL zipper will work for your setup. The JPC opens up at an angle and the pocket gets wider past the Velcro. AXL requires that extra space for the Tegris inserts. EDIT: That said, you may be able to make it work by taking scissors to the AXL Zipper. I'll take some measurements and get report back tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: @FONTY Does the pocket follow the lines of the pencils? If so, I don't think the AXL zipper will work for your setup. The JPC opens up at an angle and the pocket gets wider past the Velcro. AXL requires that extra space for the Tegris inserts. EDIT: That said, you may be able to make it work by taking scissors to the AXL Zipper. I'll take some measurements and get report back tomorrow. View Quote Yes the pocket is straight following the pencils. I appreciate your help, thanks. |
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This decision is a freedom calculus decided long ago by Colonists . . . . The freedom they fought for was not free of cost then, and it is not free now. - Honorable Judge Roger T. Benitez
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Is your admin pouch 4 PALS loops wide? If so, it matches the width of the JPC's. I'm betting the medium sized AXL Admin zipper will work for you as long as you don't have a problem breaking out a pair of scissors (to cut the ends off the AXL Tegris). EDIT: Just found out that AXL makes other zipper adapters. Check these out: Attached File https://www.axladvanced.com/collections/all/products/admin-zipper-for-the-ferro-fcpc-v5 Attached File https://www.axladvanced.com/collections/all/products/admin-zipper-insert-avs Contact AXL. I'm sure one of the above will work perfectly. Just make sure they know that your admin pocket opening is 4 PALS wide (or 6 inches). |
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Not sure if I am reading this correctly. One part says set of 2 plates and the note further down says price is per plate. Figured I would post it here either way.
Hesco L210 |
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Originally Posted By ki_soarer: Not sure if I am reading this correctly. One part says set of 2 plates and the note further down says price is per plate. Figured I would post it here either way. Hesco L210 View Quote For that price it had better be for two plates. That listing is rife with misspellings and contradictions. I also like “Size - OS” |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: @FONTY Is your admin pouch 4 PALS loops wide? If so, it matches the width of the JPC's. I'm betting the medium sized AXL Admin zipper will work for you as long as you don't have a problem breaking out a pair of scissors (to cut the ends off the AXL Tegris). EDIT: Just found out that AXL makes other zipper adapters. Check these out: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/MultiCam-FCPC-Photo_1024x1024_png-1928668.JPG https://www.axladvanced.com/collections/all/products/admin-zipper-for-the-ferro-fcpc-v5 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Crye-AXL-AVS-Admin-Zipper-Plug-In-Front_-1928669.JPG https://www.axladvanced.com/collections/all/products/admin-zipper-insert-avs Contact AXL. I'm sure one of the above will work perfectly. Just make sure they know that your admin pocket opening is 4 PALS wide (or 6 inches). View Quote Thanks for the info PFran42, email sent to AXL for the best fitting admin zipper. |
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Originally Posted By sic_ness: For that price it had better be for two plates. That listing is rife with misspellings and contradictions. I also like “Size - OS” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sic_ness: Originally Posted By ki_soarer: Not sure if I am reading this correctly. One part says set of 2 plates and the note further down says price is per plate. Figured I would post it here either way. Hesco L210 For that price it had better be for two plates. That listing is rife with misspellings and contradictions. I also like “Size - OS” Yea I noticed the "one size" option which I thought was strange. I guess calling or emailing them for clarification would help. I have only ever purchased pants from that company, which I love. I am sure they would clear up any confusion if someone was interested. |
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After watching some videos on the Javelin Concepts RCOS cummerbund and how it is designed to get the rear plate bag to sit higher, it gave me an idea for my JPC 2.0. I posted a couple of times about my issues with plate fitment and how I have to adjust the shoulder straps as short as they will go in order to get the rear plate bag to sit in the correct location (which then leads to other fitment/comfort issues).
On my JPC 2.0, I took off the cummerbund and re-installed it to the rear plate bag but moved the attachment straps down a spot so that the cummerbund sits lower than the rear plate bag. Now the entire setup sits much more comfortably and is lined up more correctly with the profile of my upper torso. Maybe its just me, but even looking at pics of these PCs in the wild, the rear plate bags don't seem to fit correctly on many of the people who wear them as a function of their livelihood. If you own a JPC/JPC 2.0, you might want to try this out and see if it is more comfortable. Green = Top of plates Orange = Individual cummerbund straps Attached File |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: After watching some videos on the Javelin Concepts RCOS cummerbund and how it is designed to get the rear plate bag to sit higher, it gave me an idea for my JPC 2.0. I posted a couple of times about my issues with plate fitment and how I have to adjust the shoulder straps as short as they will go in order to get the rear plate bag to sit in the correct location (which then leads to other fitment/comfort issues). On my JPC 2.0, I took off the cummerbund and re-installed it to the rear plate bag but moved the attachment straps down a spot so that the cummerbund sits lower than the rear plate bag. Now the entire setup sits much more comfortably and is lined up more correctly with the profile of my upper torso. Maybe its just me, but even looking at pics of these PCs in the wild, the rear plate bags don't seem to fit correctly on many of the people who wear them as a function of their livelihood. If you own a JPC/JPC 2.0, you might want to try this out and see if it is more comfortable. Green = Top of plates Orange = Individual cummerbund straps https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210507_005329834c_jpg-1932635.JPG View Quote Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the plates should be at equal height. Your organs are in the same spot, whether the round enters from the front or back. |
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Originally Posted By jonathon: https://i.imgur.com/K68EcSv.jpg LBX 0300 on the left, GGG Minimalist on the right. View Quote >M81 This is the way. |
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Originally Posted By vjf915: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the plates should be at equal height. Your organs are in the same spot, whether the round enters from the front or back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vjf915: Originally Posted By PFran42: After watching some videos on the Javelin Concepts RCOS cummerbund and how it is designed to get the rear plate bag to sit higher, it gave me an idea for my JPC 2.0. I posted a couple of times about my issues with plate fitment and how I have to adjust the shoulder straps as short as they will go in order to get the rear plate bag to sit in the correct location (which then leads to other fitment/comfort issues). On my JPC 2.0, I took off the cummerbund and re-installed it to the rear plate bag but moved the attachment straps down a spot so that the cummerbund sits lower than the rear plate bag. Now the entire setup sits much more comfortably and is lined up more correctly with the profile of my upper torso. Maybe its just me, but even looking at pics of these PCs in the wild, the rear plate bags don't seem to fit correctly on many of the people who wear them as a function of their livelihood. If you own a JPC/JPC 2.0, you might want to try this out and see if it is more comfortable. Green = Top of plates Orange = Individual cummerbund straps https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210507_005329834c_jpg-1932635.JPG Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the plates should be at equal height. Your organs are in the same spot, whether the round enters from the front or back. The rear plate bag should ride a little higher if possible but that honestly isn't a huge deal. An impact to the rear has a much larger potential for spinal injury and it is impossible to cover it all anyway. Mobility and comfort are top priority |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Maybe its just me, but even looking at pics of these PCs in the wild, the rear plate bags don't seem to fit correctly on many of the people who wear them as a function of their livelihood. View Quote Sometimes guys just don't really care, sometimes they just I've met more than a few SME's that couldn't care less about their gear, or guns for that matter, just that the stuff works. Buying your own gear can change that perspective. Originally Posted By vjf915: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the plates should be at equal height. Your organs are in the same spot, whether the round enters from the front or back. View Quote Yes, but depending on the carrier raising the rear plate can keep the front plate where it needs to be. Most guys load the front plate bag so starting level may just sag in the front and rise in the rear anyhow. Like the other fella said unless you're loading XL SAPIs you're probably compromising: Going higher covers the lung apices but exposes more of the abdominal aorta, lumbar spine, intestinal tract, and vice versa. Most guys I know that even consider plate placement keep the rear upper plate edge just above or level-ish between the shoulder blades. |
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Originally Posted By FrankW134: Went through every single page of this thread this morning, loved seeing the evolution of gear. Pulled the MBAV out of retirement, taking it to drill next weekend... https://i.imgur.com/cMt3HfZ.jpg?1 Eagle MBAV First Spear triple-double mag pouch ESSTAC mid KYWI mag pouch IFAK II Eagle canteen pouch w/PVS14 insert Source hydration carrier View Quote Oh man that takes me back |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems: >M81 This is the way. https://i.ibb.co/Q9KK8gW/6-D9-BD02-E-D443-4048-82-DB-18-B3937620-FC.jpg https://i.ibb.co/z5LzFk3/459-AF3-D9-2-BCC-45-AD-968-C-EB1-DB670-C350.jpg https://i.ibb.co/5hb046Q/38499346-60-D0-4-FE4-B005-6-F3-AF6-F54794.jpg View Quote Who makes that M81 carrier? |
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Feel like I'm in my happy zone at this point. Tyr PICO MVS Twin Needle Mini Map Tyr Gunfighter Belt Kit Coyote Tactical Solutions STOMP True North Concepts MHA Safariland 4502 BFG and HSGI pouches |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: Oh man that takes me back View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By FrankW134: Went through every single page of this thread this morning, loved seeing the evolution of gear. Pulled the MBAV out of retirement, taking it to drill next weekend... https://i.imgur.com/cMt3HfZ.jpg?1 Eagle MBAV First Spear triple-double mag pouch ESSTAC mid KYWI mag pouch IFAK II Eagle canteen pouch w/PVS14 insert Source hydration carrier Oh man that takes me back Today we take a ride in the way back machine Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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Got my 12 y/o son an LBX 0300. eBay $62 shipped. Just need some plates for him now.
Attached File Edit: these are from 2014, in a pattern of camo that I’m guessing didn’t sell well. Great deal for the price. That camo will blend well in my AO. |
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Official ARFCOM nickname, The Germ!
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I like it. Digital desert works very well out here.
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My backup PC... M81 goodness (aka God's Plaid).
Beez American Sentry PC Random 3 mag panel I found in my gear box Old school medic pouch rigged as a dangler (for IFAK) Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Gurthy: My backup PC... M81 goodness (aka God's Plaid). Beez American Sentry PC Random 3 mag panel I found in my gear box Old school medic pouch rigged as a dangler (for IFAK) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218803/IMG-2883_jpg-1941797.JPG View Quote I gotta know how you did the dangler and mounted the TQ. I have one of those USGI IFAKs. |
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Originally Posted By SCR556: My guess is the dangler was sandwiched in the bottom of the platebag and the TQ holder is sandwiched between the plate bag and placard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SCR556: Originally Posted By jonathon: I gotta know how you did the dangler and mounted the TQ. I have one of those USGI IFAKs. My guess is the dangler was sandwiched in the bottom of the platebag and the TQ holder is sandwiched between the plate bag and placard. I used the Velcro part of a Tac Tailor dangler (Grey Ghost Gear also uses the same attachment system) and threaded the pouch's MOLLE straps through that. (550 cord loops through the bottom PALS row on the PC also works...that's how I have my dangler attached to my other PC and the reason I had the Velcro part lying around). I have the both the TQ holder and the Velcro dangler thingamajig sandwiched in the plate. Attached File Attached File |
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