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jonathon
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Posted: 2/13/2010 2:45:40 AM


Currently...

Tactical Tailor Modular PC
DBT Admin Pouch
2 TT mag pouches
ATS medium GP pouch for first aid - little large but I like it..
TT Hydration bladder
Source Bladder
First Choice 10x12 level IV stand alone plates.. from the demo's I've seen these are very, very nice and exceed NIJ specs.

The TT carrier is actually not bad at all with plates. The 10x12 plates SWIM in it by themselves. I plan to add backers eventually. To keep the plates high and in place I made a half pocket with closed cell sleeping mat foam and duct tape(gorilla tape actually.. good shit!). This also alleviated another issue.. zero padding on the PC and the plates dug in.

I also plan to get the HSGI shoulder pads to try out.. gotta be better than the ones on the TT which need fiddling with after donning.
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Posted: 2/13/2010 2:44:18 PM
I like your setup Simple, efficient and to the point!
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Posted: 2/13/2010 8:08:05 PM
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Who are you arresting with those flex cuffs?


The people that break the law.... been a JBT for the last four and a half years.


That comment wasnt directed at you, it was directed at MightyMints, and being a civilian and arresting people is not such a good idea. There is quite a bit that can go bad real quick when someone who doesnt know how to arrest someone tries, especially if the arrestee is ill intentioned. It was a legitimate question, just looking for a legitimate answer.



I understand the question.... hence why I answered it. I didn't take any offense from it.
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Posted: 2/13/2010 9:18:14 PM
Originally Posted By bravo72989:
I like your setup Simple, efficient and to the point!


Thanks! Thats what I put it together for I want to do an armor carrier eventually with more soft armor coverage.. but this was more a grab and go with armor
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Posted: 2/15/2010 3:19:50 PM
Here's my updated gear. Finally found a setup that seems to flow well, gotta actually go out and do some range drills with it still though.

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Here's how I mounted my knife, lemme know what you guys think on this...





Trauma Kit:



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Posted: 2/15/2010 3:50:20 PM
What knife is that on your belt?
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Posted: 2/15/2010 11:47:18 PM
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What knife is that on your belt?


Its a CRKT Crawford NECK knife. I have a soft spot for CRKT's for some reason...
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Posted: 2/16/2010 8:42:29 AM
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Here's my updated gear. Finally found a setup that seems to flow well, gotta actually go out and do some range drills with it still though.

First line:
...

Second line:
...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2367.jpg

Here's how I mounted my knife, lemme know what you guys think on this...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2368.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2370.jpg

Trauma Kit:

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2371.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2373.jpg


Good mount location on knife, though may consider having it blade up so on your draw, the blade is oriented edge forward...when you cross draw in a vertical grip or reverse (icepick) grip. Also, location of the T-kit looks good, can you access it with the weak hand? A++ on all your kit setup. straight forward!

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Posted: 2/16/2010 8:56:23 AM
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Who are you arresting with those flex cuffs?


The people that break the law.... been a JBT for the last four and a half years.


That comment wasnt directed at you, it was directed at MightyMints, and being a civilian and arresting people is not such a good idea. There is quite a bit that can go bad real quick when someone who doesnt know how to arrest someone tries, especially if the arrestee is ill intentioned. It was a legitimate question, just looking for a legitimate answer.



Ill be your huckleberry.
I dont run flex cuffs, I run 75 or 150 lb rated zip ties. I run zipties rather than flex cuffs because they are modular and can be used for multiple things. The number one reason I have them is for detention, but that is not the only reason by a long shot. I dont have a crystal ball and I dont arrest people. I want to give myself and the ones I train with as many options as possible. I didnt see where Mints stated that he would be arresting people.

Now to flip the script - where is your gear and how do you plan on controlling an individual you come in contact with post conflict? I presume you would just shoot them since you have not mentioned any other behavior modification methods...


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Posted: 2/16/2010 11:38:29 AM
Originally Posted By shinoi:
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Here's my updated gear. Finally found a setup that seems to flow well, gotta actually go out and do some range drills with it still though.

First line:
...

Second line:
...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2367.jpg

Here's how I mounted my knife, lemme know what you guys think on this...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2368.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2370.jpg

Trauma Kit:

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2371.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2373.jpg


Good mount location on knife, though may consider having it blade up so on your draw, the blade is oriented edge forward...when you cross draw in a vertical grip or reverse (icepick) grip. Also, location of the T-kit looks good, can you access it with the weak hand? A++ on all your kit setup. straight forward!



I put the knife there primarily for reaction side use which is why I oriented it blade down, however I found it's actually easier to cross draw it this way too and still have the blade forward. As for the trauma kit, it is possible to get it with my left hand although it's not very pretty lol. I guess I could move the bladder more to the left to center the t-kit a little better. Thanks for the tips.
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Posted: 2/17/2010 7:57:57 AM
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Originally Posted By shinoi:
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Here's my updated gear. Finally found a setup that seems to flow well, gotta actually go out and do some range drills with it still though.

First line:
...

Second line:
...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2367.jpg

Here's how I mounted my knife, lemme know what you guys think on this...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2368.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2370.jpg

Trauma Kit:

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2371.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2373.jpg


Good mount location on knife, though may consider having it blade up so on your draw, the blade is oriented edge forward...when you cross draw in a vertical grip or reverse (icepick) grip. Also, location of the T-kit looks good, can you access it with the weak hand? A++ on all your kit setup. straight forward!



I put the knife there primarily for reaction side use which is why I oriented it blade down, however I found it's actually easier to cross draw it this way too and still have the blade forward. As for the trauma kit, it is possible to get it with my left hand although it's not very pretty lol. I guess I could move the bladder more to the left to center the t-kit a little better. Thanks for the tips.


With the cross draw, your wrist is in a more natural grip position if the blade is up, whether going for a standard or reverse grip. Then after draw (with strong hand) all you do is rotate the wrist once and you're ready. Doing it blade down you have to rotate the wrist and flip it, two motions not one. Though you have a point if you're using it primary for weak hand use only, especially in a ground...fight blade down maybe.
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Posted: 2/19/2010 12:19:25 AM
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Originally Posted By jonathon:
What knife is that on your belt?


Its a CRKT Crawford NECK knife. I have a soft spot for CRKT's for some reason...


Negative ghost rider, it is a Columbia River CRKT Black Hissatsu Knife 2907K, Not a neck knife unless you are giving someone a Columbian neck tie.
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Posted: 2/19/2010 6:37:11 AM
Originally Posted By l1a1man:
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Originally Posted By jonathon:
What knife is that on your belt?


Its a CRKT Crawford NECK knife. I have a soft spot for CRKT's for some reason...


Negative ghost rider, it is a Columbia River CRKT Black Hissatsu Knife 2907K, Not a neck knife unless you are giving someone a Columbian neck tie.


Ummmm...... the Hissatsu is on his plate carrier, the one on his belt, is a NECK.....
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Posted: 2/19/2010 6:38:10 AM
Originally Posted By l1a1man:
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Originally Posted By jonathon:
What knife is that on your belt?


Its a CRKT Crawford NECK knife. I have a soft spot for CRKT's for some reason...


Negative ghost rider, it is a Columbia River CRKT Black Hissatsu Knife 2907K, Not a neck knife unless you are giving someone a Columbian neck tie.


He said belt.............
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Posted: 2/20/2010 12:38:00 AM
Originally Posted By 99superduty:
Originally Posted By l1a1man:
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Originally Posted By jonathon:
What knife is that on your belt?


Its a CRKT Crawford NECK knife. I have a soft spot for CRKT's for some reason...


Negative ghost rider, it is a Columbia River CRKT Black Hissatsu Knife 2907K, Not a neck knife unless you are giving someone a Columbian neck tie.


He said belt.............


Doohh, gottcha. I was skimming to fast and missed that.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 4:27:26 AM
Originally Posted By birdhousebro114:
Here's my updated gear. Finally found a setup that seems to flow well, gotta actually go out and do some range drills with it still though.

Second line:

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2365.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2366.jpg

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg465/birdhousebro114/IMG_2367.jpg



What kind of carrier is that? Rampage?
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Posted: 2/20/2010 9:33:16 AM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/kstrenge/Guns/Editedmini-rigcopy.jpg

My mini rig. It's a budget build so you'll have to excuse some of the non matching colors, and cheaper pouches.

5.11 mini rig:
- 5.11 chest rig
- Condor 3 mag shingle w/ C-products mags and FDE magpuls
- Admin panel w/morale patch (Milspec monkey sheepdog patch)
- Condor pistol mag pouches
- Leatherman Core
- Spare XD mag

Other items:
- Springfield XD45 4" service model
- Gerber Prodigy


Nice set up, exactly what I'm working towards...
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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:56:39 PM
Originally Posted By MOS2111:
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Who are you arresting with those flex cuffs?


The people that break the law.... been a JBT for the last four and a half years.


That comment wasnt directed at you, it was directed at MightyMints, and being a civilian and arresting people is not such a good idea. There is quite a bit that can go bad real quick when someone who doesnt know how to arrest someone tries, especially if the arrestee is ill intentioned. It was a legitimate question, just looking for a legitimate answer.



Ill be your huckleberry.
I dont run flex cuffs, I run 75 or 150 lb rated zip ties. I run zipties rather than flex cuffs because they are modular and can be used for multiple things. The number one reason I have them is for detention, but that is not the only reason by a long shot. I dont have a crystal ball and I dont arrest people. I want to give myself and the ones I train with as many options as possible. I didnt see where Mints stated that he would be arresting people.

Now to flip the script - where is your gear and how do you plan on controlling an individual you come in contact with post conflict? I presume you would just shoot them since you have not mentioned any other behavior modification methods...




I have absolutely no plans what so ever in detaining individuals IF there was any type of SHTF event. I am not trained to do so, and this question was simply put out there for a legitimate response. I do however find it odd that Mints has not responded to my question and two other people have, both of which the question was not addressed to. I agree, detention is not the only reason to carry zip ties, but in the position he has them carried in, one would only be left to assume that is what they are there for. Stow them away in a pocket on the vest or whatever, to me this would lower your profile and there by lower your profile on what governmental authority that my exist. Again the question was there for him, not anyone else, if I had a question on your loadouts, I would ask you, not someone else.

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Then PM him and stop taking a dump in this thread, because you are the only one who cares.
You still have not contributed by posting any gear pics.
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Posted: 2/20/2010 9:00:40 PM
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Originally Posted By MOS2111:
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By PreMDMatt:
Who are you arresting with those flex cuffs?


The people that break the law.... been a JBT for the last four and a half years.


That comment wasnt directed at you, it was directed at MightyMints, and being a civilian and arresting people is not such a good idea. There is quite a bit that can go bad real quick when someone who doesnt know how to arrest someone tries, especially if the arrestee is ill intentioned. It was a legitimate question, just looking for a legitimate answer.



Ill be your huckleberry.
I dont run flex cuffs, I run 75 or 150 lb rated zip ties. I run zipties rather than flex cuffs because they are modular and can be used for multiple things. The number one reason I have them is for detention, but that is not the only reason by a long shot. I dont have a crystal ball and I dont arrest people. I want to give myself and the ones I train with as many options as possible. I didnt see where Mints stated that he would be arresting people.

Now to flip the script - where is your gear and how do you plan on controlling an individual you come in contact with post conflict? I presume you would just shoot them since you have not mentioned any other behavior modification methods...




I have absolutely no plans what so ever in detaining individuals IF there was any type of SHTF event. I am not trained to do so, and this question was simply put out there for a legitimate response. I do however find it odd that Mints has not responded to my question and two other people have, both of which the question was not addressed to. I agree, detention is not the only reason to carry zip ties, but in the position he has them carried in, one would only be left to assume that is what they are there for. Stow them away in a pocket on the vest or whatever, to me this would lower your profile and there by lower your profile on what governmental authority that my exist. Again the question was there for him, not anyone else, if I had a question on your loadouts, I would ask you, not someone else.



why is it people like you always think this stuff is only for SHTF? Here is a little advice. Stop looking in the mirror at how pretty you look with your shit on and go out and use it. You probaably have never used your gear for real world situations. Perhaps you might find multiple people breaking into your car at night, what then bud? Shoot them all and go to prison? Listen to what other people say and do, there is a lot of good advice and experience here.
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Alot of Mall Ninjas in these threads....I love it.
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Alot of Mall Ninjas in these threads....I love it.


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Originally Posted By BD1a:
Originally Posted By MajorAR:
Alot of Mall Ninjas in these threads....I love it.


The civies always seam to deliver the best entertainment, sir.


+1 Gets a little irittating. Too many people sit behind the puter reading specs, designs, etc. They need to get out and actually use their gear.
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Originally Posted By l1a1man:
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Originally Posted By MajorAR:
Alot of Mall Ninjas in these threads....I love it.


The civies always seam to deliver the best entertainment, sir.


+1 Gets a little irittating. Too many people sit behind the puter reading specs, designs, etc. They need to get out and actually use their gear.


You mean like wear it to mow the lawn? I don't think most of these guys have a cause for using their gear.
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