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Posted: 10/23/2009 9:37:10 PM EST
Can someone please tell me who makes the best plate carrier on the market. Some im looking at are Eagle, Blackhawk and blackwater. Any info and pics would be great.
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Posted: 10/23/2009 10:02:52 PM EST
I have a Tactical Tailor releasable that I like. Probably most will say Eagle is the best. I have Eagle stuff that is very nice, just not their plate carrier.
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Posted: 10/24/2009 2:29:37 AM EST
That's like asking who makes the best car!

There are lots of mom and pop shops out there....but I haven't seen anyone that beats Eagle in anything.

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Posted: 10/24/2009 7:57:38 AM EST
As far as stand alone carriers go, the Eagle PC is nice. Paraclete, Tactical Tailor, and DBT also have nice stand alone carriers.
If you want to run a PC over soft armor though there are gonna be different options.

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Posted: 10/24/2009 10:52:58 AM EST
I prefer the paraclete, with eagle being a close second
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Posted: 10/24/2009 1:52:47 PM EST
There is no such thing as "best" when it comes to plate carriers. As already mentioned everyone likes somethign different. I started with a Blackhawk STRIKE carrier, then went to a HSGI Wastach, then a Weestach, then an Eagle PC w/ cummerbund, and have finally setteled on a Paraclete HPC. LIke everythign else, your gear will like evolve the more you use it and discover what you actually need and dont need.
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Posted: 10/24/2009 2:10:08 PM EST
Get a Blackwater, they are discontinued but still have some on Ebay
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Posted: 10/24/2009 3:13:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
Get a Blackwater, they are discontinued but still have some on Ebay


I have one and I'll be honest....I kinda wished I had just put the money towards something else. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad piece of kit but it just doesn't fit me right. The cummerbund on it helps greatly but it does eat up a good bit of MOLLE space, and becasue of my torso length the MOLLE by my sides is virtually unusable because it's practically up to my armpit.
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Posted: 10/24/2009 3:34:13 PM EST
Can anyone tell me of the Eagle PC with cummerbund L/XL size will take medium sapi plates? I am 5'10'' 200lbs I would like to get the medium but im scared it will be to small with winter gear on.

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Posted: 10/24/2009 3:41:29 PM EST
This post is like the question "What handgun should I buy?" It all depends on your needs, plate size, budget, etc. Some will fit your body different, some have different methods of release. There is no "Best".There are several good brands and models within those brands. You get what you pay for.
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Posted: 10/24/2009 4:26:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By rlp511:
Can anyone tell me of the Eagle PC with cummerbund L/XL size will take medium sapi plates? I am 5'10'' 200lbs I would like to get the medium but im scared it will be to small with winter gear on.




The carrier is based on the size of the plate you use. If you are running 10x12 plates get the medium carrier.
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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:55:57 PM EST
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If you want to run a PC over soft armor though there are gonna be different options.

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Posted: 10/26/2009 6:37:54 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Custom-X_Sponjah:

If you want to run a PC over soft armor though there are gonna be different options.

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what might those be?
Simple Plate Carriers Like the TT MPC, the HSGI Woosatch which was designed to wear over soft armor....
This is just my personal opinion..
If I'm wearing Concealed Armor already, I don't want to don a PC with Cummerbund..

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Posted: 10/26/2009 8:34:05 PM EST
I have been running a HSGI Weesatch for 4 years with no complaints. The Woosatch is also a very good buy.
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Posted: 10/27/2009 2:36:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By rlp511:
Can someone please tell me who makes the best plate carrier on the market. Some im looking at are Eagle, Blackhawk and blackwater. Any info and pics would be great.


The Blackwater is discontinued. Eagle is nice, but I found that the Cummerbund on them isn't useful at holding "essential" items, as I had to bend my hand at awkward angles to access the stuff on it. If you are thinking Eagle, you should look into these: http://www.skdtac.com/PIG_Plate_Carrier_p/pig.501.htm They're made by Eagle for SKD, but they're basically just an evolution of the Eagle PC. Blackhawk's is ok as well.

DBT stuff is pretty amazing for that they charge.
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Posted: 10/27/2009 10:42:58 PM EST
After many hours and reviews I think I am going to go with the DBT Gen 2 fast attack plate carrier. Its not to big and bulky and I can keep it in the front seat of the squad. I will just don it over my regular soft armor for active shooter scenerios. I work in a town where the shootings seem to be occuring on a weekly basis and I need something thats fast. I hope im making the right decesion.
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Posted: 10/27/2009 10:48:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By shrapmagnet:
I prefer the paraclete, with eagle being a close second



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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:54:32 AM EST
We just got the Scalable Plate Carriers issued when we got over here. Made by Eagle of course. Great piece of kit. I'll post pics when my dang camera arrives.

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:55:23 AM EST
What about for Low Vis PC or just a PC with no molle attatchments? My tactical Tailor PC works fine by itself, but i dont like how my MAV or Riflemans Rig fits over it.
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Posted: 10/29/2009 7:26:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
We just got the Scalable Plate Carriers issued when we got over here. Made by Eagle of course. Great piece of kit. I'll post pics when my dang camera arrives.

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What about a blurry pic of a SPC using the MTV Cummerbund????



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Posted: 10/29/2009 8:25:58 PM EST
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That is in fact how I'm running my SPC. I took my MTV c-bund and attached it to my carrier. The advantage is the fact that the side plates are now "internal" to the C-bund vice hangin on the outside like "wings" so to speak. Again, I'll work some pics....maybe send them direct to you since my connectivity is so limited? What is your email?
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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:22:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By Custom-X_Sponjah:

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
We just got the Scalable Plate Carriers issued when we got over here. Made by Eagle of course. Great piece of kit. I'll post pics when my dang camera arrives.

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What about a blurry pic of a SPC using the MTV Cummerbund????

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/topher63/IMG00401-20091028-1326.jpg

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:51:49 AM EST
I like it 2,wonder how it would be with the Spartan c/bun since the s-sapi pouches in that are a little lower profile.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 1:05:06 PM EST
The very best is probably Mayflower Research and Consulting.

Best one you can (maybe) find is the Paraclete SOHPC, but wait a bit. Grey Group Training is about to field an improved cummerbund for it.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 4:39:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By WiseguyThreeOne:
The very best is probably Mayflower Research and Consulting.

Best one you can (maybe) find is the Paraclete SOHPC, but wait a bit. Grey Group Training is about to field an improved cummerbund for it.


Will this be cummerbund 2.0 or 3.0 for the SOHPC?
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Posted: 10/30/2009 7:00:47 PM EST
It's a replacement for the internal cummerbund that will have PALS webbing so you can tuck mag shingles or radio pouches inside the cummerbund. There was a discussion about it...elsewhere.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 8:22:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By WiseguyThreeOne:
It's a replacement for the internal cummerbund that will have PALS webbing so you can tuck mag shingles or radio pouches inside the cummerbund. There was a discussion about it...elsewhere.


Must be the same thing I heard Josh from Grey Group talking about.
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Posted: 10/31/2009 4:58:14 PM EST
Yep. Eric told me over on another board.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 9:07:11 PM EST
Posting this up for MajorAR:





Both pics are my current “kit” I’m rolling with. Scalable Plate Carrier with MTV cumber bund. It’s a type of “hybrid” that is an awesome set up. I’m running Tangodown and USGI(Okay Ind) mags. TT mag shingle, and eagle M4 pouches. Source water carrier. PVS14 in the M4 pouch and Eagle Admin pouch. Benchmade nylon cutter and SureFire helmet/vest attachment as well. Standard M4 with ACOG and KAC broom stick and VTac sling.


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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:14:50 AM EST
Help me out, what is the purpose of the cumberbund? Cant you just attach your pouches to the webbing on the vest itself?
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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:19:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By ljh824:
Help me out, what is the purpose of the cumberbund? Cant you just attach your pouches to the webbing on the vest itself?


There is a requirement to wear side SAPIs, also you don't have enough room on just the front and back to put all your required gear.

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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:38:55 AM EST
Also the internal cummerbund can help get some of the weight onto your hips and off your shoulders depending how you adjust it.

External cummerbund, yes, more PALS real estate and side SAPIs.
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Posted: 11/5/2009 11:48:46 PM EST
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Stupid question, but does the new scalable plate carrier take the same soft armor inserts that the MTV uses?


No, the MTV is too large.
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Posted: 11/6/2009 9:42:44 AM EST

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Yeah, I realized that when I was eating lunch earlier... the MTV soft armor reaches all the way up into the shoulder straps. They don't call us Dumb Ass Tankers for nothing!

So anyone know what cut of soft armor the SPC takes?

Its a special cut manufactured by Specialty Defense.
Its sewn into the SPC.
To me it looks like the PACA armor for the Eagle PC.

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Posted: 11/9/2009 8:28:37 PM EST
Ok guys so I went with a DBT Gen 2 FAPC. I got it in the mail today and I could not be more happy with my purchase. I was not totally clear in my initial post on what I was looking for. I am no longer a Marine and dont have a use for a full rig. But I am a police officer now working in a very gang infested town. I deal with active shootings on a common basis.

Ok so what I got is great for me. I can don this plate carrier directly over my other carrier which contains my second chance armor. No longer a need for one of those gay bailout bags as I have my med kit attached, two 30 rd ar mags, two pistol mags and a rc knife. Everything fits well and is very comfortable for me , even over my other armor. Now all I have to to is throw this over my head grab my ar and get into the fight.

I know there are alot of cops looking for something similar and I think this is the answer. Just my opinion.

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Posted: 11/9/2009 9:36:51 PM EST
Pics man!!! Pics or didn't happen. You know the rule!

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Posted: 12/1/2009 6:41:43 AM EST
anybody tried the Beez Combat Systems PC?
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