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Originally Posted By mcantu:
i've always thought that CADPAT was too dark to work outside of northern forests but then today i saw this pic... http://home.cogeco.ca/~dscarlino/range/002.jpg and thats just laying out in the open! you cant even see the legs of the guys at the end of the row... damn that's cool, i always wondered how it would look in an open setting |
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Originally Posted By benb:
I bought all multicam gear and was convinced it worked great in all environments, but a friend took a picture of me working on somthing in multicam (in the pacific nw forest). There was a woodland jacket in the same picture. I was shocked how well i stood out in multicam and how well the woodland jacket worked. I think the multicam still works very well in arid enviroments, but i am thinking of getting more woodland or marpat gear for the forest. I took some pics of my MC backpack on a trip to WA State. It disappeared in the pix. |
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Camo is getting nearly as bad as computers - It's obsolete in about a
year with something new coming out. Take ATACS for example - the last picture of that in this thread was in August of 2012 and no mention since. |
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Originally Posted By OlKev:
Camo is getting nearly as bad as computers - It's obsolete in about a year with something new coming out. Take ATACS for example - the last picture of that in this thread was in August of 2012 and no mention since. I see what you mean and i do think it is frustrating at times, but the good thing is that you get to see some cool stuff come out. I remember when i was a kid there wasnt much more then woodland and i thought realtree was the coolest shit ever just because it was different |
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I've still got and use my ATACS stuff. Just haven't had much time to do anything new picture wise, etc. My buddy and I are bouncing around right now with a few different things (when there is time). Hopefully we can have something new up soon.
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Protego quod vallo.
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Does anyone make a sterile, no Velcro/zipper, all button closure ACU or MCCUU pattern uniform in multicam?
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"The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse." --James Madison
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SKD does. I've run (and still have) their Bravo version for a few years now. Definitely a solid option if Multicam is what your looking for and want buttons on the top instead of Velcro and a zipper.
http://www.skdtac.com/SKD-Enhanced-BDU-Shirt-p/skd.104.htm http://www.skdtac.com/SKD-Enhanced-Pant-BDU-p/skd.102.htm |
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Protego quod vallo.
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I've got a SKD Alpha cut set, used the top for my first ghillie suit. Only thing I don't like about them is the pant sizing, I ordered my normal bdu size and they were nut huggers out the package.
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"The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse." --James Madison
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CeraOne excellent pics, and a great contribution to this thread! |
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Originally Posted By CeraOne:
.............................Pants are Tru-Spec in ACU cut, ..................... Tru-Spec does not make anything in A-TACS FG or AU. Did you mean Propper? |
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Protego quod vallo.
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Originally Posted By CeraOne:
.............................Pants are Tru-Spec in ACU cut, ..................... Tru-Spec does not make anything in A-TACS FG or AU. Did you mean Propper? You are correct! I will edit my post to reflect the manufacturer as Propper. |
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Thanks for the pics, Cera. Which do you think is more effective, FG or Mandrake?
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Originally Posted By Buckeye67:
Thanks for the pics, Cera. Which do you think is more effective, FG or Mandrake? FG Mandrake is an interesting idea and gives lots of "depth" up close. But from a distance it blends just like any other camo, and the FG does a better job playing on light and shadows. You couldn't go wrong with either, honestly...but I'm still preferring FG. I will continue to test both and keep you guys updated with pics, especially if I end up in some different terrain. |
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Forgive me if this is already been done but has anyone ever posted a night vision pic of MC, with ATACS AU, and FG? Just curious to see the three in the same shot.
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He says that it was "just that I was afraid of over penetration" since I'd be behind him. - BigeasySnow (7-22-10)
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that atacs FG looks good in your environment
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Originally Posted By CeraOne:
snip Great pix, thanks for taking the time to post those. IMHO, ATACS > Kryptic Krytic looks so damned cool... But I'm really not seeing how it's more (or as) effective than MC or ATACS. I'd still love a pair of Kryptic pants for the range/property, but I'll stick with MC if I really want to blend in. |
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Originally Posted By LiquidRisc81:
sorry if i missed it have we discussed AOR2 or DG3? i really like these for WA state as the woodland marpat is the best i have found for western Washington, but really wish it had more green in it like the AOR2 does.... i've really only toyed around with woodland,woodland marpat, multicam and OD.... i've had the best luck with OD and the woodland marpat....i'm getting ready to dump everything and get all new gear instead of just heading out with various items cobbled together... i need a complete set up. is AOR2 worth the money? anyone have any experience with it? AOR2 http://www.octactical.com/aor2nyco.jpg DSG3 http://www.octactical.com/dg3m3.jpg MARPAT http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/63/64/52066463/photos/Uniform-Comparison-Study/marpat-1.jpg For some reason, I find myself liking AOR2 better then MARPAT. Some of the smaller, custom gear makers have products in AOR2 that look great as well. |
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Thanks for the update.
Slightly off-topic, but I'm envious of the area you live in, and even more jealous that you have a like-minded buddy who will go and stomp around with you. |
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Originally Posted By chris1845:
ya for sure! this is one of my favorite threads! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Thanks for the update. Slightly off-topic, but I'm envious of the area you live in, and even more jealous that you have a like-minded buddy who will go and stomp around with you. ya for sure! this is one of my favorite threads! I'll third outkast's comment. My buddies are all blue jeans, cowboy boots and skoal rings. I'm the only camo guy |
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"I wouldn't stand in front of a supersoaker filled with piss. Does that make it a good pistol?" - Caboose314
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Wow, that Pencott looks great.
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"I wouldn't stand in front of a supersoaker filled with piss. Does that make it a good pistol?" - Caboose314
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I agree with you Brad, there are lots of great camouflage patterns out there and its great if you can find just the right one for your AO, but Multicam still seems to be the closest thing to a solid universal pattern in that it is at least moderately effective in a wide variety of terrain. If I could only have one, that would probably be it.
Anyways, here's more in-field pics of the GZ in use over on a magazine's Facebook page I saw yesterday: Clicky |
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There was a time when my buddy and I felt the same way about MC. Now, I'll be honest, for us it is way down the list of our choices in regards to true effectiveness.
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Protego quod vallo.
Si vis pacem, para bellum. |
Anybody ever hear of a brand called Viking that makes/sells ACU cut pants in a very brown tinted OD green sort of color?
Anybody ever seen ACU cut pants in that sort of color at all? |
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." ~ Ernest Hemingway
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Great thread. I need some new cammos, and this may help. Where I live, old school Woodland is still one of the best, but the new Kryptec Mandrake may work for me too. I was looking at getting Multicam, but I think there is just too much white. ATacs looks promising for my area.
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I saw somebody on the subway wearing them and asked for the details. He said the brand was Viking and he got them from a place called MASH, but I've found zero record of either the brand or the store.
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." ~ Ernest Hemingway
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I wish I could find BDUs in Coyote brown or a darker tan color.
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Check out Carhartt and Duluth Traders.
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." ~ Ernest Hemingway
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Back in the early pages of this thread there are some pictures of the solid coyote Tru-Spec TRU's I have.
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Protego quod vallo.
Si vis pacem, para bellum. |
Not my photos of course, but I thought they were appropriate for this thread. These photos were taken from SpecOpShop's Facebook page here.
These are photos of LandCamo ABD/SERE in West Texas, which is very much like the terrain that covers most of central and southern Arizona where I live. I would buy this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the price of $325 for a single pair of pants and a jacket is just about enough to make my married-with-children brain explode. |
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
Back in the early pages of this thread there are some pictures of the solid coyote Tru-Spec TRU's I have. View Quote ill have to go back and check those out. When we went camping this weekend, we saw a Dept of Wildlife officer wearing brown BDU's and they went well with the terrrain. |
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Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Not my photos of course, but I thought they were appropriate for this thread. These photos were taken from SpecOpShop's Facebook page here. These are photos of LandCamo ABD/SERE in West Texas, which is very much like the terrain that covers most of central and southern Arizona where I live. I would buy this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the price of $325 for a single pair of pants and a jacket is just about enough to make my married-with-children brain explode. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1266290_558098984256338_2040083147_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1276823_558052170927686_557079145_o.jpg View Quote SpecOpShop has a lot of great looking stuff |
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Originally Posted By chris1845:
SpecOpShop has a lot of great looking stuff View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Not my photos of course, but I thought they were appropriate for this thread. These photos were taken from SpecOpShop's Facebook page here. These are photos of LandCamo ABD/SERE in West Texas, which is very much like the terrain that covers most of central and southern Arizona where I live. I would buy this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the price of $325 for a single pair of pants and a jacket is just about enough to make my married-with-children brain explode. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1266290_558098984256338_2040083147_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1276823_558052170927686_557079145_o.jpg SpecOpShop has a lot of great looking stuff I don't see anything in hose photos that warrants that kind of money. Hit up your local cabelas and find a 90% solution for $75. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
I don't see anything in hose photos that warrants that kind of money. Hit up your local cabelas and find a 90% solution for $75. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote I have to agree. I want it, but as good as it looks to me, I can't justify that price tag. Especially not since $80 worth of Propper Multicam has worked pretty well for me out here for the last two years, especially in the low desert areas and up in the Sonoran pines. It doesn't fare as well in high desert where there's even less green but it is still not totally ineffective. |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
I don't see anything in hose photos that warrants that kind of money. Hit up your local cabelas and find a 90% solution for $75. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Not my photos of course, but I thought they were appropriate for this thread. These photos were taken from SpecOpShop's Facebook page here. These are photos of LandCamo ABD/SERE in West Texas, which is very much like the terrain that covers most of central and southern Arizona where I live. I would buy this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the price of $325 for a single pair of pants and a jacket is just about enough to make my married-with-children brain explode. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1266290_558098984256338_2040083147_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1276823_558052170927686_557079145_o.jpg SpecOpShop has a lot of great looking stuff I don't see anything in hose photos that warrants that kind of money. Hit up your local cabelas and find a 90% solution for $75. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Oh yeah, im not sure I would drop that kinda coin on their stuff either |
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Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
The color of the ACU pants I saw was pretty much this exact brown/green color of the OD grip on the lower right (the color of Magpul OD is much more green in person than it is in this picture) http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/_thumbs/700x500-IMG_5827%201028%20Stick.jpg Anybody seen em before? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Anybody ever hear of a brand called Viking that makes/sells ACU cut pants in a very brown tinted OD green sort of color? Anybody ever seen ACU cut pants in that sort of color at all? that would be interesting The color of the ACU pants I saw was pretty much this exact brown/green color of the OD grip on the lower right (the color of Magpul OD is much more green in person than it is in this picture) http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/_thumbs/700x500-IMG_5827%201028%20Stick.jpg Anybody seen em before? 5.11 has a color called Tundra that is similar |
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Originally Posted By Wespe:
5.11 has a color called Tundra that is similar View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wespe:
Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Anybody ever hear of a brand called Viking that makes/sells ACU cut pants in a very brown tinted OD green sort of color? Anybody ever seen ACU cut pants in that sort of color at all? that would be interesting The color of the ACU pants I saw was pretty much this exact brown/green color of the OD grip on the lower right (the color of Magpul OD is much more green in person than it is in this picture) http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/_thumbs/700x500-IMG_5827%201028%20Stick.jpg Anybody seen em before? 5.11 has a color called Tundra that is similar I own a few items in that color, it's different. Eh, guess I'll have to track em down in person, no biggie. |
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." ~ Ernest Hemingway
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Anyone have experience with fame retardant and bug repellent camo? Just the flame retardant alone usually ups the price hundreds of dollars. There is a local Surplus place that sells Multicam flame retardant and bug repellant pants (the kind with adjustable knee pads) for $89. Is this the best deal on the planet or am I missing something? No, they are not used, BRAND NEW. How can a brick and mortar be so much cheaper than all the online places???
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the camo fades a lot faster on those.
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye:
There was a time when my buddy and I felt the same way about MC. Now, I'll be honest, for us it is way down the list of our choices in regards to true effectiveness. View Quote Things look pretty green in some of your pix. Try dyeing ACU stuff (either nylon field gear or even the ACU uniform) with Rit Apple Green dye and see what you think. TT has a 50% off sale on right now on ACU and foliage stuff, FWIW, but dyeing cheap GI surplus will give you an idea of the result. Do the dyeing experiment following Rit's suggestions on their site www.ritdye.com. You can order dye there, but better to buy locally and avoid shipping if possible. I have seen pix of ACU uniforms dyed with Rit Tan dye that also looked very decent for brownish (fall and winter hereabouts) locales, but haven't tried it myself yet. Presumably the nylon field gear will do as well. I have dyed ACU stuff (uniforms and nylon) with Rit Apple Green, and it is a whole lot greener than the original stuff. As in suitable for Florida green, and for cheap. May I suggest you do this NOW, while TT's sale is still ongoing, and ACU gear (everywhere) is still dirt cheap and available? ACU gear is currently detested (and rightly so) for most applications. However, the same charactaristics that render it unsat as-is also allow for some creative dyeing. For the most part, the dark and medium foliage areas take on the cast of the dye, and the light areas absorb the dye much more. The thing is that on account of the dark and medium foliage areas, only light colors should be used so as to not render the final result too dark. Such a result occurs when using Rit Dark Green, dye for example, as even a fairly quick wash, as opposed to a soak will produce a pretty dark result, although the digital pattern is still plainly visible. Even when using light dyes, the result will still be fairly dark, so a Rit-dyed ACU uniform will never be able to be dyed to suit true desert, for example. However, for most other terrains, the result works surprisingly well. Currently ACU is being dumped by most vendors and mfrs. If you are willing to experiment with dyeing the stuff, you might be able to obtain very good results for dirt cheap. I predict that once dyeing catches on, ACU stuff will be considered an item of choice because of its adaptability after being suitably dyed. |
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