Feel free.

Some more of the solid Coyote. Not the best in the world, but until I can take some better ones, these should give a little bit of reference. Conditions were cloudy/overcast, and of course winter time.

It all depends. In many situations, a boonie hat works fine. To me, they tend to work best when they are good and broken in. Keep in mind, in relation to the pics I am doing here, I am not trying very hard to actually "hide", but more just show a rough idea of what different colors and/or patterns will look like.

My buddy and I are steadily looking for ways of how can we better test our camo's, theories, etc.... without others actually being together and using their naked eyes. Pictures are fine, but, I don't think they really offer the true full scope. They are motionless. Our eyes, are not. If we were actively looking for someone, our eyes, head, and bodies will be moving. They'll be moving laterally, vertically, horizontally, and focusing in and out. Lighting and angles will change as we and our eyes move, etc. So the thought occurred to me...... video. Now, video wont give the same effect that our naked eye will have via depth perception and focus, but, we can simulate the other movements. So with that in mind, I did a little test this morning. I took a digital woodland top, and laid it in the bushes here at work. It was about 9:36 am. when I took this video, and the sun is coming from the east, my right. I am going to leave the top where it is, and take some more pics and video throughout today as the sun changes its angle. Here are the initial results. As you will see, with very little vegetation in front of the top, but just a bit of early morning shadow, it almost disappears. From my desk, approx. 100 yrds away, I cannot see it at all. As you walk up to it, you have to really look hard to find it. I plan to do the same thing with multicam, and the coyote.

Mid day pics and video. Top is in the same place. Time was approx 12:15 pm. The sun was directly overhead. I found it interesting, once again, how it seems to adapt somewhat to the changing light conditions.

It is Propper's Digital Woodland. It is not MARPAT.

Some more Multicam and Coyote..... Same deal as yesterday. Same time frame (9:15ish a.m.), same location.  I was a bit rushed on these though, so I'm not sure if I am entirely happy with the result. May redo them to try and keep things a bit more consistent.

No, its not. Please do not start that in this thread. Start a new discussion about it if you want in a new thread.

Working on that......maybe this weekend.

I've been wanting to get my hands on some of that Italian Vegetata. I'd really like to try a few things with it.

Mind if I ask where you got the Vegetata?

MARPAT or Propper/Tru-Spec Digital Woodland?

If I might suggest, an addition to your OP which would advise the reader as to which mfrs made the better products, the middlin' mfrs, and the purveyors of crap might be useful.  After all, a shopper in a surplus store might see a lot of cheapo civvy copies of gear, and probably most of them bottom tier.  A head's up as to Mfrs woud be valuable, IMHO.  You may have added such info, but such is lost in this long a thread.

You've been very good on the materials, but your OP (which is what most folks read) might include a bit more data on good vs bad mfrs.  Just a suggestion.

RAF, duly noted.

I figured it was, but wanted to be sure.

The camera will do that. Partly, because its a frozen static image. Another thing is that they are a bit close. Distance plays a factor as well. Just about anything is going to fairly easy to spot at spitting distance. Another thing is, your centered in most of them. Try taking the pics with a little bit more distance, and without you being the center focal point in them.

Overall, I think they look pretty effective in that environment.

Ok, very interesting deveploment today... I've never been a big fan of Tru-Spec products. I've had some in the past, and had issues with them, not to mention I've never been overly impressed with the construction quality. I took a chance though and ordered some Tru-Spec items, and got them in today. Cant remember if I mentioned this before or not, so forgive me if I am being repetetive. I really like the ACU cut tops, especially the Propper digital woodland ones. I like the cut and fit, and especially the pleated/bellowed shoulders. It gives a very comfortable range of motion. What I havent liked, is the velcro everywhere. I like velcro, for certain uses mind you. I prefer buttons for just about everything. I dont mind it being used on the chest pockets though, as those are often going to be covered up with gear. Shoulder pockets, and trouser leg pockets, hip pockets, etc.... I STRONGLY prefer buttons. Thats probably one of my biggest complaints with the ACU style uniform.

Enter Tru-Spec. Tru-Spec has a new(er) line out that is called their "Pro-G" line. From reading the description, I was very intrigued. I broke down and ordered a set of their Pro-G line Digital Woodland BDU's. Got them in tday, and have to say, my initial impressions are very good. What drew me to them initially, was that they were traditional BDU style pants, with a blouse that was very close in picture and discription, to actual USMC issue MARPAT clothing. One thing I have liked about the USMC's uniforms, was the use of....BUTTONS. The Tru-Spec's follow that very closely. The pants are a traditional BDU style pant, with buttons on the hip and leg pockets. The blouse, is very close to an actual USMC issue blouse. The shoulder pockets and collar are very similar in design, and use....BUTTONS. The chest pockets are the only thing that uses velcro. The sleeve cuff's even use buttons, in a reverse fashion like USMC issue utilities.
The material is a 65/35 Poly/Cotton twill material. I prefer a ripstop usually, but, after handling these, I'll admit, it appears to be a good material. The fit and construction of the BDU's is far, FAR superior to previous Tru-Spec items I have owned. These actually appear (on initial inspection) to be VERY well made. The digital woodland pattern they use, looks very good. Its a bit different than the digital woodland that Propper uses. Not quite sure how to quantify it, other than to say, they are just different.....but different in a good way. They actually look very close to actual MARPAT. I'm going to get some wear time on these, as we'll see how they start to shake out, but initially, I am very impressed. About the only thing these dont have, that would make them darn near the perfect BDU by my standards, is the pleated/bellowed shoulder area of the ACU, and in a ripstop material. I can live without those however. As long as the material and construction hold up.... these will be good to go in my book, and maybe even my new #1 choice.

Here are a few pics....

Tru-Spec blouse.....




Propper on the left, Tru-Spec on the right.....






Genuine MARPAT boonie and Tru-Spec blouse.....




MARPAT boonie and Tru-Spec boonie.....

Yes, they are darker than Khaki for sure. I'll try to get a shot of the two together. So far, quality seems to be good as they are holding up fine to quite a bit of washing and wearing.

Rushed shot of the new Tru-Spec digital woodland top through a PVS-14 with the IR illuminator on.





Going to try to get some (better) shots of them all, just have to find the time to do it.