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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:02:14 PM EDT
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Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded.
  I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 10:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. That looks good... And I like basketweave |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn't make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I'm going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. Looks great, what adhesive did you use? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:30:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. That looks fantastic! Did you use adhesive backed fabric... or....??? Details!! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:46:18 AM EDT
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It’s just 3m Super 77 and 1000d cordura. Super 77 was really easy to work with.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:34:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. Looks great! |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 5:15:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Anastasios]
[#7]
I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland.
If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 7:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland. If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it:  (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 7:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan: Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it: https://volundgearworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_9856.png (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland. If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it: https://volundgearworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_9856.png (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 7:28:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 Appears so. I've never seen that used though and it looks significantly more floppy, which is the opposite of what you want with a holster. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 What benefit would there be to use that? |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:01:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Does Safariland charge you at the time of order or when they ship?
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:04:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
[#13]
I'm for real done with my belt this time. Seriously... well... except for maybe a thigh strap if the holster starts floppin' around while I'm LARPing to a Costa Magpul video.
I got to run run the belt, PC and helmet two nights ago for a night shoot. Everything was buttoned down, exactly where I wanted it and nothing from the plate carrier interfered with the belt (and vise versa). I will note that wearing your gear around the house pays off huge when running around the woods in the dark. Mag changes were second nature. Empty mags to dump pouch? No problem. My re-holstering could still use some work though. Changes since last pic dump... Added a Blue Force Gear "The Hammock" under the Micro Trauma Kit NOW!  Attached FileBuild spreadsheet for anyone interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DjZyuFgbRO2rmq-r6mF7RmgX8OWwTQQ47Kk-aaX2do/edit?usp=sharing What do I do now? I've already got OCD'd Bug Out and Get Home bags. Can someone point me to a good chest rig thread? |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:24:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: What benefit would there be to use that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 What benefit would there be to use that? Standard MOLLE attachment, and less plastic with no prongs to break. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:59:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Standard MOLLE attachment, and less plastic with no prongs to break. Yeah... None of those are real advantages. The Safariland plastic is bombproof, as are their prongs. You're not going to break a Safariland attachment system. That MOLLE is more likely to sag on a belt system (resulting in a sloppy and fouled draw) and your more likely to tear the stitching of MOLLE webbing than break a QLS fork or a Safariland mount. Safarilands, with their plastic mounts, are used by guys who climb ships, rope out of helicopters, jump out of planes, etc... Without issue. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:11:59 PM EDT
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 Trex inner and outer belt, dump bag, med kit and ragnarok holster, esstac mag pouches, Gcode holster mount and an Esee Izula |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Yeah... None of those are real advantages. The Safariland plastic is bombproof, as are their prongs. You're not going to break a Safariland attachment system. That MOLLE is more likely to sag on a belt system (resulting in a sloppy and fouled draw) and your more likely to tear the stitching of MOLLE webbing than break a QLS fork or a Safariland mount. Safarilands, with their plastic mounts, are used by guys who climb ships, rope out of helicopters, jump out of planes, etc... Without issue. I mean, you could break a safariland.....if you subject it to well north of the 140lbs they're designed to break away at for user safety.  Seriously, if any of you have actually managed to break a Safariland short of intentional destructive testing I'd love to know how. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:51:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Anastasios]
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Does the holster bolt directly to the pronged piece?
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:29 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Does the holster bolt directly to the pronged piece? Yes, unless you want to use the QLS system (which I'd recommend) |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: I'm for real done with my belt this time. Seriously... well... except for maybe a thigh strap if the holster starts floppin' around while I'm LARPing to a Costa Magpul video. I got to run run the belt, PC and helmet two nights ago for a night shoot. Everything was buttoned down, exactly where I wanted it and nothing from the plate carrier interfered with the belt (and vise versa). I will note that wearing your gear around the house pays off huge when running around the woods in the dark. Mag changes were second nature. Empty mags to dump pouch? No problem. My re-holstering could still use some work though. Changes since last pic dump... Added a Blue Force Gear "The Hammock" under the Micro Trauma Kit NOW! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210125_214541331_jpg-1797006.JPG Build spreadsheet for anyone interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DjZyuFgbRO2rmq-r6mF7RmgX8OWwTQQ47Kk-aaX2do/edit?usp=sharing What do I do now? I've already got OCD'd Bug Out and Get Home bags. Can someone point me to a good chest rig thread? Where did you get the BFG dump pouch and Hammock from? I haven’t seen those in stock anywhere. Emailed BFG earlier this month and they said they were expecting a restock mid-January but nothing yet. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:48:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sconnieVLP: Where did you get the BFG dump pouch and Hammock from? I haven’t seen those in stock anywhere. Emailed BFG earlier this month and they said they were expecting a restock mid-January but nothing yet. @sconnieVLP Dump pouch - EE The Hammock - LegitKit on eBay. I have purchased multiple items from that seller (has 50K+ positive feedback) and they are GTG. LegitKit eBay store: https://www.ebay.com/str/legitkit Link to BFG "The Hammock": https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Blue-Force-Gear-The-Hammock-Tourniquet-TQ-Add-On-Hanger-Pouch/303139942613?var=602075534138&hash=item46948c70d5:g:2JAAAOSw2pFe2vsL |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:59:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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@sconnieVLP
USAPatriotTactical is expecting some BFG Ultralight dump pouches in Multicam in a few days. https://www.uspatriottactical.com/blue-force-gear-ten-speed-ultralight-dump-pouch/blue_HW-M-DP-S.html  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 3:29:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan: Yes, unless you want to use the QLS system (which I'd recommend) Thank you, I appreciate you guys helping out. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:52:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: @sconnieVLP USAPatriotTactical is expecting some BFG Ultralight dump pouches in Multicam in a few days. https://www.uspatriottactical.com/blue-force-gear-ten-speed-ultralight-dump-pouch/blue_HW-M-DP-S.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/WPC-Q-000000_1_56_51_PM_png-1797767.JPG Perfect, thanks! I normally avoid those guys for anything I suspect may not be in stock, I’m pleased to see they’ve started being more transparent about it. Set a reminder to check on Monday. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 6:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Do you have different sized baseplates for your mags? Mind the gap. If not, you should be fine with a regular. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Very Nice. While we are on topic, do I want gapped or non gapped esstacs for a molle belt? Do you have different sized baseplates for your mags? Mind the gap. If not, you should be fine with a regular. Even though I have too with M&P mags, I’d want the gap there regardless to make the draw easier. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:43:39 PM EDT
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Had a couple of knowledgeable folks tell me. Even esstac commented on an IG post advising it wasn’t recommended. I honestly thought I was all set. Now here I am:
 Attached FileIf it hasn’t already been explicitly stated, WTF straps should be avoided as an attachment method on micro molle/pals belts. I now have some malice clips en route. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:57:01 AM EDT
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Why should WTF straps be avoided for belts?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:02:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556hunter: Why should WTF straps be avoided for belts? They're too floppy to be used when partially unsupported. Most belts have that half-MOLLE webbing which leaves some of the connector not supported by webbing on both sides, see the picture above. WTF straps will bend and allow the pouch to flop around a bit. For belt use I highly recommend MALICE clips instead as they are a lot stiffer. The original MALICE clips even more so than the fight light ones. When WTF straps are fully supported by webbing on both sides, such as on plate carriers or chest rigs, they work great. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:55:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flpickupman: Had a couple of knowledgeable folks tell me. Even esstac commented on an IG post advising it wasn’t recommended. I honestly thought I was all set. Now here I am: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122245/C37D7A15-2008-47AA-B027-FF79BBFA9E21_jpe-1798266.JPG If it hasn’t already been explicitly stated, WTF straps should be avoided as an attachment method on micro molle/pals belts. I now have some malice clips en route. I had mine set up that way for about two days. Shot one match with the WTF straps and the pouches started wiggling loose. I swapped them out for OneWrap and it’s rock solid. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 7:32:12 PM EDT
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One Wrap is the answer on belts. Malice clips dig in after a while, not a pleasant feeling.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: One Wrap is the answer on belts. Every. Damned. Time. I love MALICE clips for a MOLLE belt or a PC, but One Wrap is the way to roll for a low-profile and/or inner/outer belt. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:21:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sparkfly88]
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My first modern setup.
Need smaller trauma kit.  Edit: BELT - ATS slim suspenders, Eagle Industries padded sub belt with a usgi pistol belt ran through it. Hsgi poly tacos, 511 med pouch, usgi canteen pouch and canteen. PC - Condor sentry I believe, with USGI Esapi. Usgi PAGSGT Kevlar helmet with upgraded pads and 4 point suspension |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:24:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: northcoastwizard]
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:26:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By northcoastwizard: https://i.imgur.com/ZVTeZq5.jpg What did I do wrong? Lol |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:30:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:37:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2021 2:17:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: One Wrap is the answer on belts. Malice clips dig in after a while, not a pleasant feeling. I flip my MALICE clips and have the attachment portion facing skyward to prevent it from digging into my body |
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Posted: 1/30/2021 3:49:14 PM EDT
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Put this together for range, HD, & SHTF type use. Yes, that’s a lot of MOLLE
I’m fat and working on it...hopefully I’ll be buying a smaller belt later this year. Still need: - Medical for the first aid kit - Flashlight for the HSGI Duty Taco - Multitool - Dump pouch - Carabiner & gloves  |
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Posted: 1/30/2021 5:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
[#39]
Safariland 6354DO (Glock 34/35) RH, Multicam, Red Dot, X300U A/B or TLR-1 just popped up on EE for $100.
This will fit all of the other double stack Glocks as well (not my listing) BETTER HURRY!!!!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2021 8:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KimberZ71: Put this together for range, HD, & SHTF type use. Yes, that’s a lot of MOLLE I’m fat and working on it...hopefully I’ll be buying a smaller belt later this year. Still need: - Medical for the first aid kit - Flashlight for the HSGI Duty Taco - Multitool - Dump pouch - Carabiner & gloves https://i.imgur.com/4dZtnK5.jpg Essee? What size? I’m struggling to figure out a way to mount my essee 4 on my belt without poking me in the side with the handle or in the stomach when I lean forward |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 5:09:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LFC2112: Essee? What size? I’m struggling to figure out a way to mount my essee 4 on my belt without poking me in the side with the handle or in the stomach when I lean forward Esee-3. Seems good right behind the holster but I just got everything together and haven’t trained in it yet. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 8:53:29 AM EDT
[#42]
Anyone have a good video for using One Wrap on belts? Or should I just order some and figure it out?
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Posted: 1/31/2021 9:08:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: Anyone have a good video for using One Wrap on belts? Or should I just order some and figure it out? It’s not that complex. Measure 3x the width of the belt, correctly orient the hook/loop sides, fold, profit. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 9:09:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTRider245: Anyone have a good video for using One Wrap on belts? Or should I just order some and figure it out? There is nothing to figure out. 1" wide > run though PALS loops on pouch > wrap around on outer belt.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 11:27:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KimberZ71: Esee-3. Seems good right behind the holster but I just got everything together and haven’t trained in it yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KimberZ71: Originally Posted By LFC2112: Essee? What size? I’m struggling to figure out a way to mount my essee 4 on my belt without poking me in the side with the handle or in the stomach when I lean forward Esee-3. Seems good right behind the holster but I just got everything together and haven’t trained in it yet. That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. 
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Posted: 1/31/2021 12:07:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg Interesting layout |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 12:31:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: There is nothing to figure out. 1" wide > run though PALS loops on pouch > wrap around on outer belt. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210107_024855455__1__jpg-1804533.JPG @PFran42, maybe you already know this, but ITW does make two versions of the FastMag. You're running the molle version, which seems to work fine, but just know that the belt version has a rectangular piece that aids in interfacing with belts of various sizes. My guess is you could track down this piece through ITW directly. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 12:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LFC2112: Interesting layout Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LFC2112: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg Interesting layout It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 12:13:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2021 7:53:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Originally Posted By LFC2112: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg Interesting layout It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. Forget the knife and pistol interference, what about the mag placement in front of the pistol 
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