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Posted: 4/19/2012 10:16:57 PM
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how does that feel with a backpack?


Its just a different style Camelbak, I hope to really try it out next weekend
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Posted: 4/19/2012 10:27:21 PM
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how does that feel with a backpack?


Its just a different style Camelbak, I hope to really try it out next weekend



no i mean, how does it feel to have to wear a pack over top of the camelbak when you cant take it off
I have to return some video tapes.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 10:30:04 PM
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how does that feel with a backpack?


Its just a different style Camelbak, I hope to really try it out next weekend



no i mean, how does it feel to have to wear a pack over top of the camelbak when you cant take it off


I don't really notice it, I cinch my packs down pretty tight so there is no movement
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Posted: 4/20/2012 8:30:14 PM
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+1 this source. Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet

They have the three color desert FLC's, as well as a few Coyote brown FLC's. They also carry some new MOLLE II ACU rucksacks (with and without frame). Be careful, though, on the issue gear, as some is used and some of the new stuff seems to be Manuf. rejects (the ACU Saw pouches weren't quite within specs for the MOLLE attachment).
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Posted: 4/21/2012 1:15:49 PM
I just got 3 CCB FLCs for $20 plus $20 thipping off ebay. Used, but they look pretty good, and have that BTDT 'broken in' look. Nice and clean, repairs should be no sweat. Taking one to PHX for a low-profile GHB setup.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 2:56:54 PM
CCB? GHB? You lost me there.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 8:00:31 PM
i think he means (CCB) coyote camo brown FLC's and (GHB) get home bag...these codes are for the well informed amoung us ! vince g. 11B INF...
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Posted: 4/23/2012 8:32:38 PM
Woops. I meant CB (coyote Brown, and yes, get home bag. I think I'm going to set up just one of the belts as a ltwt loadout for the M1 carbine.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 9:42:51 PM
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Woops. I meant CB (coyote Brown, and yes, get home bag. I think I'm going to set up just one of the belts as a ltwt loadout for the M1 carbine.


Link to CB FLC on ebay?
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Posted: 4/24/2012 6:18:25 PM
Thanks. CB FLCs sre expensive on ebay. Somebody was selling them on a site for $29, while on Ebay they are going for $50....wish I could rber the site,but probaby one of those mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 9:42:29 PM
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Thanks. CB FLCs sre expensive on ebay. Somebody was selling them on a site for $29, while on Ebay they are going for $50....wish I could rber the site,but probaby one of those mentioned earlier in this thread.


New condition Coyote Brown FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Coyote-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier.html


New condition Woodland FLC's (2nd generation, with zipper)

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Woodland-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-Gen-2-8465014652056.html


New condition DCU FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-New-8465014917451.html

They were selling the desert camo ones for about $6 more than the woodland or CB ones, but they finally brought the price down.
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Posted: 4/24/2012 9:47:44 PM
Originally Posted By JPN:
Originally Posted By xcibes:
Thanks. CB FLCs sre expensive on ebay. Somebody was selling them on a site for $29, while on Ebay they are going for $50....wish I could rber the site,but probaby one of those mentioned earlier in this thread.


New condition Coyote Brown FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Coyote-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier.html


New condition Woodland FLC's (2nd generation, with zipper)

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Woodland-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-Gen-2-8465014652056.html


New condition DCU FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-New-8465014917451.html

They were selling the desert camo ones for about $6 more than the woodland or CB ones, but they finally brought the price down.





by the time they add shipping they are damn near 50 bucks though
I have to return some video tapes.

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Posted: 4/24/2012 9:53:35 PM
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Originally Posted By xcibes:
Thanks. CB FLCs sre expensive on ebay. Somebody was selling them on a site for $29, while on Ebay they are going for $50....wish I could rber the site,but probaby one of those mentioned earlier in this thread.


New condition Coyote Brown FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Coyote-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier.html


New condition Woodland FLC's (2nd generation, with zipper)

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Woodland-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-Gen-2-8465014652056.html


New condition DCU FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-New-8465014917451.html

They were selling the desert camo ones for about $6 more than the woodland or CB ones, but they finally brought the price down.





by the time they add shipping they are damn near 50 bucks though


When I ordered mine, I looked through what other gear they had, and ordered several things, so the shipping wasn't as bad. Some of their MOLLE gear is new, some is used, but they always list that in the description.
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Posted: 4/25/2012 5:22:09 PM
Uncle Sam's shipped me a USMC Assault pack w/o a frame sheet. they also shipped me a combat tent with some missing pegs––still waiting to hear from them about that, and it's been months.

I made a frame sheet from 1/16" thick black HDPE sheet I bought from Graingers. I ordered enough to add sheets to some smallish packs that lacked them.

Shipping prices do seem on the high side; perhaps that's on accoount of stuff shipping from different locations.

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Posted: 4/29/2012 8:58:10 PM
Originally Posted By JPN:
Originally Posted By xcibes:
Thanks. CB FLCs sre expensive on ebay. Somebody was selling them on a site for $29, while on Ebay they are going for $50....wish I could rber the site,but probaby one of those mentioned earlier in this thread.


New condition Coyote Brown FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Coyote-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier.html


New condition Woodland FLC's (2nd generation, with zipper)

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Woodland-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-Gen-2-8465014652056.html


New condition DCU FLC's

http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-New-8465014917451.html

They were selling the desert camo ones for about $6 more than the woodland or CB ones, but they finally brought the price down.


Ordered the coyote FLC on Tuesday and it showed up Friday.


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Posted: 4/29/2012 9:18:21 PM
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The underlying color of the vest is not terribly important, since it will be toting pouches that (hopefully) will be appropriate to the user's AO.

In fact, a middlin' amount of AO-appropriate camo mix-up is an advantage.

I've seen folks llying dead still, wearing blue jeans and light-colored shirts totally bypassed by paintball players who were focussed on something else.

It's not your gear, it's ALL about how you use it.

some folks hereabouts havs a belief hat buying the best and the latest gear will somehow carry them through any and all crises.

Truth be told, a week after the SHTF, most of these folks will be supplying other folks with gear––free.
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Posted: 4/29/2012 10:00:18 PM
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The underlying color of the vest is not terribly important, since it will be toting pouches that (hopefully) will be appropriate to the user's AO.

In fact, a middlin' amount of AO-appropriate camo mix-up is an advantage.

I've seen folks llying dead still, wearing blue jeans and light-colored shirts totally bypassed by paintball players who were focussed on something else.

It's not your gear, it's ALL about how you use it.

some folks hereabouts havs a belief hat buying the best and the latest gear will somehow carry them through any and all crises.

Truth be told, a week after the SHTF, most of these folks will be supplying other folks with gear末free.


It's kind of nice to be able to tell which is your issued gear with just a quick glance.

It'll give someone a nice selection someday when my training wasn't enough
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Posted: 4/29/2012 10:53:05 PM
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The underlying color of the vest is not terribly important, since it will be toting pouches that (hopefully) will be appropriate to the user's AO.

In fact, a middlin' amount of AO-appropriate camo mix-up is an advantage.

I've seen folks llying dead still, wearing blue jeans and light-colored shirts totally bypassed by paintball players who were focussed on something else.

It's not your gear, it's ALL about how you use it.

some folks hereabouts havs a belief hat buying the best and the latest gear will somehow carry them through any and all crises.

Truth be told, a week after the SHTF, most of these folks will be supplying other folks with gear末free.


It's kind of nice to be able to tell which is your issued gear with just a quick glance.

It'll give someone a nice selection someday when my training wasn't enough


s speak as a civilian, and my comments should be read with that orentation in mind. I don't think my comments––on any subject–– should be tken as Gospel. No offense, but if you believe your personal training was satisfactory in all regards, then do chime in.
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Posted: 4/30/2012 8:42:36 AM
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Originally Posted By raf:
The underlying color of the vest is not terribly important, since it will be toting pouches that (hopefully) will be appropriate to the user's AO.

In fact, a middlin' amount of AO-appropriate camo mix-up is an advantage.

I've seen folks llying dead still, wearing blue jeans and light-colored shirts totally bypassed by paintball players who were focussed on something else.

It's not your gear, it's ALL about how you use it.

some folks hereabouts havs a belief hat buying the best and the latest gear will somehow carry them through any and all crises.

Truth be told, a week after the SHTF, most of these folks will be supplying other folks with gear末free.


It's kind of nice to be able to tell which is your issued gear with just a quick glance.

It'll give someone a nice selection someday when my training wasn't enough


s speak as a civilian, and my comments should be read with that orentation in mind. I don't think my comments末on any subject末 should be tken as Gospel. No offense, but if you believe your personal training was satisfactory in all regards, then do chime in.


I was a bit snarky and I apologize. I thought you were calling me out for having two different colored FLCs

I in no way think any amount of training can be enough, as I think a person is constantly evolving (as are situations around them). I recently switched MOS and units, and found I was woefully unprepared, so naturally what I do to train is going change drastically. I believe that if you're still running the same drills from ten years ago with no additions and just going through the same motions all the time you are doing yourself a great disservice.

I like having gear around. I get bored and having something around to kind of mess with is nice, but I believe the gear to be secondary. I look at it as my assistant. There to make things easier for me, but if the assistant is gone it ultimately comes down to me. The weapon is first for me, then everything falls around that.

Rambling and probably wrong, but again I apologize for being a bit of a dick
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Posted: 5/3/2012 12:47:09 AM
I was bored tonight and I've wanted to post this for about a year. The vest is setup to be used as a chest rig since its more comfortable for me. Nothing special but, it works for me.















Here's a breakdown of what's on the vest. Working top to bottom-left to right.

1 grenade pouch containing a lensatic compass
1 ear plug case w/ear plugs
1 pistol pouch containing a Multi tool (Leatherman charge)
1 GP pouch with extra batteries, cleaning cloth, electrical tape, and binos
3 single mag pouches with 1 mag per pouch (obviously)
1 double mag pouch containing m16 cleaning kit
1 100 rd saw pouch as IFAK
1 TQ attaced to molle webbing
also a caribiner with mechanix gloves

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I have been experimenting with different setups but still not sure which one i like best. This is the latest but not final one. It will be simplified and rearranged.



Thinking of ditching the two canteens and replacibg them with a hydramax, ditching one small/grenade pouch and movibg the other one to the left shoulder, and moving the pistol mag pouches down and to the sides.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:05:36 PM
hi xcibes,nice rig ...i have the same type FLC, almost layed out the same as you...i'm preping for a carbine class in the future and for me the FLC was the way to go...i have a bunch of double M-4 pouches as well but went with MOLLE shingles up front...the shingles give me more PALS webbing were i mounted my M-9 mag pouches and maybe my IFAK or (maybe just a M-4 pouch w/dressing -TQ-celox-gloves)...right now i have one waterbottle pouch on the right side w/a patt-58 brit waterbottle...i was also thinking on using a water bladder aswell just wanted water mounted on the FLC...also have a molle holster extender on the right side with my M-9 in a M-12 holster...i still find the waist pack(buttpack) usefull for weapons maint set,chow, and what-not's...lastly i don't like the zipper front and just use the the fastex buckles for a speedy in and out...anyway just wanted to let you know your not the only one using a FLC...by the way your weapon's not on safe LOL...vince g. 11B INF...
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Thanks, we do seem to think alike. I was also thinking about using shingles instead of pouches, and using the buckles instead fo the zipper. Having the mags to the side reduces your profile when prone.

As to my weapon not being on SAFE, well, I am sure you know this but since the hammer is not cocked, the selector/safety cannot be placed on SAFE. This always annoyed me on ARs.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:57:16 PM
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Thanks, we do seem to think alike. I was also thinking about using shingles instead of pouches, and using the buckles instead fo the zipper. Having the mags to the side reduces your profile when prone.

As to my weapon not being on SAFE, well, I am sure you know this but since the hammer is not cocked, the selector/safety cannot be placed on SAFE. This always annoyed me on ARs.


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Posted: 5/6/2012 12:53:08 AM
So are there 3 generations of FLCs?
1. First Gen with plastic bracket, detachable belt/ruck waistbelt: Woodland Camo
2. Second Gen with the removable internal padded belt, double side release buckle front closure: Woodland, DCU, Coyote?
3. Third, with removable internal padded belt, single side release buckle/plastic #10 zipper front closure: Woodland, DCU, Coyote, UCP (and Multicam via SDS)
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