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Posted: 4/2/2017 7:54:15 PM EDT
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You could watch Hard to Kill. Seagall and his actor wife get whacked by a bad cop with a "tactical" humpback but I'm not positive it's an 11.
Why did these not stay in production? 1100 come out and Browning continuing to make a similar shotgun? I've always liked a humpback but have never owned one. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:05:41 PM EDT
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They can be had reasonably. I just bought a 19" police issued model 11 a few months ago at a gun show for $265.
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Posted: 4/2/2017 10:35:57 PM EDT
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Was just outbid what I want to pay on gb. There is one local at a pawn shop. Maybe I'll go get it tomorrow.
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Posted: 4/3/2017 3:33:47 AM EDT
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I bought one that is too pretty to chop (for me). But I would sell it to you...
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:01:33 PM EDT
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I bought one that is too pretty to chop (for me). But I would sell it to you... |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:46:05 AM EDT
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No but my postman can be there.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 1:41:22 AM EDT
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Get the savage, no fiber buffer to worry about.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:17:31 AM EDT
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No but my postman can be there. We have to be very specific about the transfer of firearms. Not being a pest just protecting the site. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 10:29:37 AM EDT
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I have a FFL so aware of the rules.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:26:22 PM EDT
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I have a FFL so aware of the rules. Thanks for your help, Mike. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 2:10:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Now for temptation pictures...
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Posted: 4/4/2017 2:52:23 PM EDT
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 3:02:34 PM EDT
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 3:44:08 PM EDT
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Poly's maybe but Cutts are very super Kool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 4:09:08 PM EDT
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That makes it a good candidate for shortening...
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Posted: 4/4/2017 7:12:11 PM EDT
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That makes it a good candidate for shortening... I've got Granddad's 1948 Model 11 in my safe right now. Just this past weekend it was taken apart for the first time for a detail cleaning. I scrubbed almost seventy years of carbon and thousands of doves and squirrels hunts from it... Currently it's slated to go to my youngest son.. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 10:32:04 PM EDT
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Thats the dilemma for me. If I keep it I would chop the muzzle device and have choke tubes installed. I bought it to SBS it but can't.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:03:22 PM EDT
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I have a FFL so aware of the rules. Message sent for pics. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:05:23 PM EDT
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Just realized you posted pictures.
I'd love one in 16 gauge that nice. Would not cut it. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 11:08:24 PM EDT
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 8:58:59 AM EDT
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I collect them, attached to a short section of barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry. 
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Posted: 4/5/2017 4:07:53 PM EDT
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Cutting that beauty would make me cry.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 7:08:57 PM EDT
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You can search for the Alloy versions of the Savage - Look under Savage or Springfield 745.
I got one off of Gunbroker for under $150 and it was in excellent shape. It works well. The Savages are underappreciated. I have found good Remington Model 11s for under $200 locally. |
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Posted: 4/8/2017 6:27:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2017 12:09:29 AM EDT
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Thats got a great patina, congrats. Good price too.
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Posted: 4/9/2017 6:30:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like a good buy! When you chop it, just as an FYI if you want to add a sight - be sure you add a sight base to your front bead (as is shown on your gun) - it will change POI a bit if you don't.
I chopped one, then I just added a bead sight (lower without the base) and impact was off a bit, added the bead base (get it from Midway) soldered it on then added the front bead - now it hits where its aimed. On a whippit gun at close range though, maybe sights won't matter. 
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:00:04 AM EDT
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That's where i got the sight base for mine, midway. Looked it up for 870 police to find it.
Get some new springs while you're at it too. |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 2:12:54 PM EDT
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Going to try to reuse the original front sight.
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Posted: 4/11/2017 7:11:51 AM EDT
[#29]
I know that pain all to well. I just bought a Model 11 at the Market Hall show this weekend specifically to cut down, possibly into a Whippet
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Posted: 4/11/2017 10:05:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Was planning to do the same a couple of years ago. I ended up trading for a Model 11 at a gun show. Turns out that it is a pre Model 11 with a trap stock. Too rare to cut up.
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Posted: 4/11/2017 10:21:44 PM EDT
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They can be had reasonably. I just bought a 19" police issued model 11 a few months ago at a gun show for $265. Got a 26", 1998 Auto-5 today in trade though, so I have a humpback in the cabinet again. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 1:25:29 AM EDT
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Poly's maybe but Cutts are very super Kool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polychokes and Cutts Compensators make baby Jesus cry. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 1:27:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAre these copies of the Browning or vise versa?
Looks a lot like my Browning sweet sixteen |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 5:52:48 AM EDT
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Are these copies of the Browning or vise versa? Looks a lot like my Browning sweet sixteen |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 1:28:52 PM EDT
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Are these copies of the Browning or vise versa? Looks a lot like my Browning sweet sixteen Really, neither is a copy of the other. Just US vs European production of the same basic design. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:04:58 PM EDT
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To this point, Browning had sold most of his designs to Winchester. For the autoloading shotgun, he wanted royalties on sales instead of a flat fee for the design. Winchester refused the terms, so Browning went to Remington. The president of Remington died of a heart attack while Browning was waiting to meet him which left Remington out. Browning was forced to sell the gun oversees to FN. Production started in 1902. Since there were import restriction (I think), he later licensed the design to Remington for US sales. Remington started production of the "Autoloading Shotgun" (commonly referred to as pre-Model 11's) in 1905, then changed the name to the Model 11 in 1911. Really, neither is a copy of the other. Just US vs European production of the same basic design. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 10:00:07 PM EDT
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*cough*
There's one in the EE.. *cough* |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 10:32:32 PM EDT
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*cough* There's one in the EE.. *cough* Ordered a mag extension. Probably should order springs. Might be here tomorrow. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 2:10:22 AM EDT
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Get the savage, no fiber buffer to worry about. Can you elaborate more please? What is the best hump back, recoil operated shotgun to make a SBS out of.. A5, 11, 720? What should I be looking for now that the OP has me looking too? 
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Posted: 4/15/2017 3:26:39 AM EDT
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@SeanC Can you elaborate more please? What is the best hump back, recoil operated shotgun to make a SBS out of.. A5, 11, 720? What should I be looking for now that the OP has me looking too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get the savage, no fiber buffer to worry about. Can you elaborate more please? What is the best hump back, recoil operated shotgun to make a SBS out of.. A5, 11, 720? What should I be looking for now that the OP has me looking too? The Savage 720 and Browning A5 do not have this buffer. IMO a Browning A5 with the two piece carrier would be best, and also the most expensive. The two piece carrier makes loading a bit easier, with the Savage, Remington, and older Browning's you have to hold a button down on the side of the carrier to load them. I find it kind of awkward. Some people have fit the Browning two piece carrier to Model 11's, if I remember right the parts needed are a bit over $100. HTH |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 9:46:37 AM EDT
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Most Remington model 11's have a fiber recoil buffer that is riveted in place at the rear of the receiver and while I have never replaced one it looks like it would not be a fun time. Early Remington's didn't have this, but I do not know the exact year this was added. IIRC the one I have was made in 1923 and has the buffer. Besides some of these buffers going on being 100 years old, if you plan on getting it refinished I don't think they would survive a hot bluing or parkerizing. The Savage 720 and Browning A5 do not have this buffer. IMO a Browning A5 with the two piece carrier would be best, and also the most expensive. The two piece carrier makes loading a bit easier, with the Savage, Remington, and older Browning's you have to hold a button down on the side of the carrier to load them. I find it kind of awkward. Some people have fit the Browning two piece carrier to Model 11's, if I remember right the parts needed are a bit over $100. HTH |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 11:28:33 AM EDT
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@SeanC
@shack357 Thanks for the info. Exactly what I needed to know. I will probably do an A5 since it was the first auto loading shotgun I ever fired. And thanks for spreading the sickness OP!!
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:31:11 PM EDT
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Finally got the Savage. Pictures later.
The Wilson combat extension won't thread on. Looks like the threads are the same but the Savage is less depth of thread. I could try and force it but hate to do that. Any one have experience with the Wilson extension on an older shotgun? ETA It's not thread depth more thread width. The threads are more square than v. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 6:22:30 PM EDT
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Just got done going through my parts looking for something else. If anyone needs a brass friction ring and the steel band that goes around it for a 12 gauge model 11 pm your address. No charge. All I ask is that you actually need the part. This is the friction ring you'd use for light loads. I don't have the companion ring that would be used with it for heavy loads. Again, free part for whoever needs it.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 8:57:54 AM EDT
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Tagged. I bought an old 720 that's just begging to be cut down.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 8:52:55 PM EDT
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Picture of the 2 different threads. Savage on the left. Anyone want to compare the Wilson threads on the right to a Remington 870 or another Wilson threaded cap?
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Posted: 4/27/2017 9:55:12 PM EDT
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Cut to 18.375"
Not sure if I should return the Wilson extension. Maybe I'll find a 870 to try it on first. 
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Posted: 4/28/2017 10:12:46 AM EDT
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The Nordic 870 nut will fit the 720, but either requires a spacer for the nut to tighten against or the threads on the magazine being shortened. Not sure how much difference there is in the tolerancing on the threads between the Nordic and the Wilson, in that particular instance.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 11:21:47 AM EDT
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The Nordic 870 nut will fit the 720, but either requires a spacer for the nut to tighten against or the threads on the magazine being shortened. Not sure how much difference there is in the tolerancing on the threads between the Nordic and the Wilson, in that particular instance. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:46:38 PM EDT
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