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Posted: 12/21/2014 6:54:24 AM EDT
Had never heard of these. Have these been out a while?? Be pretty cool to have a shorty AOW built on one if they work as advertised.
http://www.reapercamo.com/product60.html 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:35:04 AM EDT
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`interesting. seems like a fair price too.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 8:53:37 AM EDT
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I like it. Looking for first hand expererience before I pull the trigger.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:11:29 AM EDT
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I have heard of them and there are many Youtube videos on them. Black Aces is a Florida based company that builds comlete mag fed shotguns on their own "Mossberg" receivers. They show that kit on their website for $435 unless I'm not reading something correctly, (or maybe that's a complete shotgun as this video seems to imply).
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgIi70yUK8s[/youtube] This video shows how to convert a regular Mossberg. Not sure why they didn't use sound. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdHp_-Ch6c[/youtube] |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Looks awesome I'm buying one when I hit the States
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:53:07 AM EDT
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I have one headed to my dealer tomorrow,couldn't pass it up for $100.great people to deal with and they ship pretty quick.And your not reading it wrong on there website it is $435 just for the receiver
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Posted: 12/21/2014 2:20:46 PM EDT
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Was hoping some of you guys already had these in hand
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:33:30 PM EDT
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I have one headed to my dealer tomorrow,couldn't pass it up for $100.great people to deal with and they ship pretty quick.And your not reading it wrong on there website it is $435 just for the receiver yea. all them parts for peanuts  post up pic's buddy when ya get your build done. nice looking stuff for the $$$
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:38:46 PM EDT
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Was hoping some of you guys already had these in hand new to this thing. A Big thank's to OP for posting up. something about a drum mag.....I love 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:55:15 PM EDT
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Yeah I like the concept. No matter how outdated scatterguns are they are still my favorite. I had one of the Knoxx sidewinder kits that I never got to work but loved the idea.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 4:29:08 PM EDT
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Only grip is they don't really work with saiga mags. You have to change the follower and then it doesn't work with the saiga. I don't see extra followers listed on their sight but I haven't called yet. No big deal to have dedicated mags but all advertising list it like is standard saiga mags
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Posted: 12/21/2014 5:21:13 PM EDT
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Only grip is they don't really work with saiga mags. You have to change the follower and then it doesn't work with the saiga. I don't see extra followers listed on their sight but I haven't called yet. No big deal to have dedicated mags but all advertising list it like is standard saiga mags hopefully you boy's will keep an old man updated. It seems like a nice deal. keep this thread up guy's |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 3:10:59 AM EDT
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Problem is they dont have instructions on how to modify saiga 12 mags using their feed ramp/follower kit.
I have one and its bad ass but i dont like the spades on their propietary mags |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 9:57:26 AM EDT
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Problem is they dont have instructions on how to modify saiga 12 mags using their feed ramp/follower kit. I have one and its bad ass but i dont like the spades on their propietary mags how much are there mags? |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 12:18:30 PM EDT
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10rd mags are $50 a pop and I think the 5rds are $15.A buddy of mine ordered there Hulk model this weekend and they gave him a coupon for 10% off so I him throw some mags on his order.I think when you order the receiver kit
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Posted: 12/22/2014 1:41:24 PM EDT
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10rd mags are $50 a pop and I think the 5rds are $15.A buddy of mine ordered there Hulk model this weekend and they gave him a coupon for 10% off so I him throw some mags on his order.I think when you order the receiver kit it comes with a follower,if mine comes in today I will let you guys know. thank's for the update. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 2:05:41 PM EDT
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower.
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Posted: 12/22/2014 3:38:39 PM EDT
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. This is what I am thinking about doing |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 5:41:53 PM EDT
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 6:05:43 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. Who says the braces are for pistols and not firearms? You better tell it to the company who makes these receivers too http://www.blackacestactical.com/#!product/prd3/3250932101/black-aces-tactical-dt |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:03:43 PM EDT
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I bought 2 a few weeks ago. I have an efiled F1 (SBS) inbound for one of them, It should be approved any day now.
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:05:33 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. ATF letter specifically says pistol or other firearm... I wrote this up a while back to explain it to a friend, broken down barney style Definition of a shotgun by MN and Federal law is.... a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger. definition of a short barreled shotgun is a SHOTGUN having one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. Part to recognize so far is a shotgun is intended to be fired from the shoulder.... a Pistol Grip Only shotgun is technically not a shotgun it is classified as a firearm because it's not intended to be fired from the shoulder.... |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:06:04 PM EDT
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Definition of an AOW is... Any weapon or device CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive;
A pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell; Weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading; and Any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. Definition of a concealed weapon is an oal under 26" Sig brace cannot turn a firearm into an NFA device per the atf's technical branch. Therefore a pgo firearm with a shorter than 18" barrel and sig brace having an OAL of 26" or more would only be considered a firearm and would NOT fall under the NFA. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:20:08 PM EDT
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. Okay this has sparked my interest now. Does Black Aces make the receivers or modifies them? Just wondering if they make them if you could get them to do a custom Serial Number. If so I would build up a 10" SBS for sure. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:25:12 PM EDT
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Build one for a Stoeger M2000/M3000, so I can make a semi-auto PGO SBS that's 18" OAL and feeds from mags
Stoeger is recoil operated and has the action spring under the handguard, so it would be about ideal. I can't remember what upcoming SciFi video game I saw something similar in, but it would be pretty cool as a door buster. ETA: Found it, Millitech Crusher, this is just a rapid prototype prop, but you get the idea... 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:25:19 PM EDT
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Okay this has sparked my interest now. Does Black Aces make the receivers or modifies them? Just wondering if they make them if you could get them to do a custom Serial Number. If so I would build up a 10" SBS for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. Okay this has sparked my interest now. Does Black Aces make the receivers or modifies them? Just wondering if they make them if you could get them to do a custom Serial Number. If so I would build up a 10" SBS for sure. Black Aces received ATF approval to allow the SBS 15 brace on their 10" "shotgun" with the restriction that shouldering it makes it an SBS. Take that however you want. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 4:09:50 PM EDT
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ATF letter specifically says pistol or other firearm... I wrote this up a while back to explain it to a friend, broken down barney style Definition of a shotgun by MN and Federal law is.... a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger. definition of a short barreled shotgun is a SHOTGUN having one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. Part to recognize so far is a shotgun is intended to be fired from the shoulder.... a Pistol Grip Only shotgun is technically not a shotgun it is classified as a firearm because it's not intended to be fired from the shoulder.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bought one a few months ago to build into a 14" w/sb15... been waiting on a 14" front end from Mossberg to finish it... Any yes it does come with a replacement follower. I'm pretty sure that's making an SBS since the braces are for pistols and there is no such thing as shotgun pistols. Just something to think about. ATF letter specifically says pistol or other firearm... I wrote this up a while back to explain it to a friend, broken down barney style Definition of a shotgun by MN and Federal law is.... a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger. definition of a short barreled shotgun is a SHOTGUN having one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. Part to recognize so far is a shotgun is intended to be fired from the shoulder.... a Pistol Grip Only shotgun is technically not a shotgun it is classified as a firearm because it's not intended to be fired from the shoulder.... paragraph 4. 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 5:01:57 PM EDT
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guess I will have to stap it to my arm when I go shooting with all my ATF buddies.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:23:17 AM EDT
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Does Black Aces manufacture the Mossberg 500 receivers? Or are they from Mossberg?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:13:17 PM EDT
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Does Black Aces manufacture the Mossberg 500 receivers? Or are they from Mossberg? The way the magwell flares down I cant imagine they modify mossberg parts. Anything is possible but it would be a ton of work to do so. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 5:19:45 PM EDT
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These 500 mag fed receivers have really caught my attention.
So is it possible to order all the other parts for the Mossberg 500 to build a complete gun? Where would you order the parts from? (someone have a checklist/parts list???  ) I'm not familiar with the Mossberg at all.
First start would be to order a one of those the Black Aces Pro Series 500 kits. Where is the source for short barrels 7"-10" (Yes I plan to build a SBS and familiar with the NFA stuff) |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 5:34:44 PM EDT
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I figured a maverick or a used 500 would probably be the cheapest way of getting all the parts.
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Posted: 12/27/2014 11:19:38 PM EDT
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Build one for a Stoeger M2000/M3000, so I can make a semi-auto PGO SBS that's 18" OAL and feeds from mags
Stoeger is recoil operated and has the action spring under the handguard, so it would be about ideal. I can't remember what upcoming SciFi video game I saw something similar in, but it would be pretty cool as a door buster. ETA: Found it, Millitech Crusher, this is just a rapid prototype prop, but you get the idea... http://images.rpgnuke.ru/cyberpunk_2077/other/1372798174-militech-crusher-8.jpg oh my 
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Posted: 12/28/2014 1:31:04 AM EDT
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I just ordered one of these sets, I already have the donor gun to get parts from. I might make a SBS out of it, not sure yet, but either way it should be fun with my Salvo.
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Posted: 12/28/2014 1:46:29 AM EDT
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A few months ago I told an AOW builder, Ryan at Falling Skies Corp, about these receivers and he's selling an AOW version called the Black Betty now. Very Nice builds. Makes one hell of a compact breaching gun..
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Posted: 12/28/2014 10:43:46 AM EDT
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A few months ago I told an AOW builder, Ryan at Falling Skies Corp, about these receivers and he's selling an AOW version called the Black Betty now. Very Nice builds. Makes one hell of a compact breaching gun.. Considering you join date and post count this seems like an advertisement more than anything. |
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Posted: 12/28/2014 1:00:06 PM EDT
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Considering you join date and post count this seems like an advertisement more than anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few months ago I told an AOW builder, Ryan at Falling Skies Corp, about these receivers and he's selling an AOW version called the Black Betty now. Very Nice builds. Makes one hell of a compact breaching gun.. Considering you join date and post count this seems like an advertisement more than anything. That's called an assumption. Don't work there, no revenue stream from the product, wasn't paid to come here and post so it's an unsolicited endorsement, not an advertisement. This forum is public, yes? Anyone searching certain info on public search engines is brought here. I searched for some info on Mossberg 590A1 was brought here where I saw this thread, had something to contribute, joined and posted and you probably learned something you didn't know so where's the problem with that? One more thing about these receivers that most dont know is that it's more than just swapping parts which is tough enough with the bolt without an arbor press. Also each mag and proprietary follower needs to be fit for reliable feeding and function just like a Saiga shotgun. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:19:04 PM EDT
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I purchased one of these receivers.
While putting it together the smith found that the firing pin was to short. Called the vendor and they are sending a new bolt assembly out Monday Great customer service so far. I'll update as the build progresses |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:18:53 PM EDT
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I also bought one of these and just got it last week. The only parts I have bought so far are the stock and a 10 round mag.
Anyway I do plan to Form 1 it into a SBS, could someone that has a 500 tell me what the length is from the receiver to end of barrel and what that barrel length is? Thanks |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:28:17 PM EDT
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That's called an assumption. Don't work there, no revenue stream from the product, wasn't paid to come here and post so it's an unsolicited endorsement, not an advertisement. This forum is public, yes? Anyone searching certain info on public search engines is brought here. I searched for some info on Mossberg 590A1 was brought here where I saw this thread, had something to contribute, joined and posted and you probably learned something you didn't know so where's the problem with that? One more thing about these receivers that most dont know is that it's more than just swapping parts which is tough enough with the bolt without an arbor press. Also each mag and proprietary follower needs to be fit for reliable feeding and function just like a Saiga shotgun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few months ago I told an AOW builder, Ryan at Falling Skies Corp, about these receivers and he's selling an AOW version called the Black Betty now. Very Nice builds. Makes one hell of a compact breaching gun.. Considering you join date and post count this seems like an advertisement more than anything. That's called an assumption. Don't work there, no revenue stream from the product, wasn't paid to come here and post so it's an unsolicited endorsement, not an advertisement. This forum is public, yes? Anyone searching certain info on public search engines is brought here. I searched for some info on Mossberg 590A1 was brought here where I saw this thread, had something to contribute, joined and posted and you probably learned something you didn't know so where's the problem with that? One more thing about these receivers that most dont know is that it's more than just swapping parts which is tough enough with the bolt without an arbor press. Also each mag and proprietary follower needs to be fit for reliable feeding and function just like a Saiga shotgun. yeah, sounds like a shill. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:44:31 PM EDT
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I also bought one of these and just got it last week. The only parts I have bought so far are the stock and a 10 round mag. Anyway I do plan to Form 1 it into a SBS, could someone that has a 500 tell me what the length is from the receiver to end of barrel and what that barrel length is? Thanks length cut off just ahead of the barrel nut is 15-1/2 inches |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:28:53 PM EDT
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I also bought one of these and just got it last week. The only parts I have bought so far are the stock and a 10 round mag. Anyway I do plan to Form 1 it into a SBS, could someone that has a 500 tell me what the length is from the receiver to end of barrel and what that barrel length is? Thanks length cut off just ahead of the barrel nut is 15-1/2 inches Umm that doesn't tell me anything I wanted to know. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:38:16 PM EDT
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He's telling you the length of the barrel when cut in front of the barrel nut...15.5". A factory SBS has a shortened mag tube so the barrel is 14" on those.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 11:44:54 PM EDT
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A few months ago I told an AOW builder, Ryan at Falling Skies Corp, about these receivers and he's selling an AOW version called the Black Betty now. Very Nice builds. Makes one hell of a compact breaching gun.. Considering you join date and post count this seems like an advertisement more than anything. That's called an assumption. Don't work there, no revenue stream from the product, wasn't paid to come here and post so it's an unsolicited endorsement, not an advertisement. This forum is public, yes? Anyone searching certain info on public search engines is brought here. I searched for some info on Mossberg 590A1 was brought here where I saw this thread, had something to contribute, joined and posted and you probably learned something you didn't know so where's the problem with that? One more thing about these receivers that most dont know is that it's more than just swapping parts which is tough enough with the bolt without an arbor press. Also each mag and proprietary follower needs to be fit for reliable feeding and function just like a Saiga shotgun. yeah, sounds like a shill. A shill is paid... |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:15:51 AM EDT
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He's telling you the length of the barrel when cut in front of the barrel nut...15.5". A factory SBS has a shortened mag tube so the barrel is 14" on those. 14 inch is a 590. I don't think the factory makes an SBS 500. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:27:30 AM EDT
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He's telling you the length of the barrel when cut in front of the barrel nut...15.5". A factory SBS has a shortened mag tube so the barrel is 14" on those. 14 inch is a 590. I don't think the factory makes an SBS 500. You are correct, cept he's asking what the barrel length is for a 500 chopped. 500 mag tube is similar length as 590 18.5" barreled shotgun and holds 5 rounds. 590 factory sbs has 6.5" forend instead of 7.625" and the shorter mag tube. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:32:44 AM EDT
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I also bought one of these and just got it last week. The only parts I have bought so far are the stock and a 10 round mag. Anyway I do plan to Form 1 it into a SBS, could someone that has a 500 tell me what the length is from the receiver to end of barrel and what that barrel length is? Thanks length cut off just ahead of the barrel nut is 15-1/2 inches Umm that doesn't tell me anything I wanted to know. Sorry I thought you wanted to know how short you can go without altering the mag tube and barrel. Rule of thumb is add 1 inch. Example: A 20 inch measurement from the receiver to the end of the barrel measures 21 inches inside to the breechface. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:37:46 AM EDT
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You are correct, cept he's asking what the barrel length is for a 500 chopped. 500 mag tube is similar length as 590 18.5" barreled shotgun and holds 5 rounds. 590 factory sbs has 6.5" forend instead of 7.625" and the shorter mag tube. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's telling you the length of the barrel when cut in front of the barrel nut...15.5". A factory SBS has a shortened mag tube so the barrel is 14" on those. 14 inch is a 590. I don't think the factory makes an SBS 500. You are correct, cept he's asking what the barrel length is for a 500 chopped. 500 mag tube is similar length as 590 18.5" barreled shotgun and holds 5 rounds. 590 factory sbs has 6.5" forend instead of 7.625" and the shorter mag tube. Thats what i answered. You can cut to 16 inches without shortening the mag and moving the barrel lug. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 2:00:31 AM EDT
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He's telling you the length of the barrel when cut in front of the barrel nut...15.5". A factory SBS has a shortened mag tube so the barrel is 14" on those. 14 inch is a 590. I don't think the factory makes an SBS 500. You are correct, cept he's asking what the barrel length is for a 500 chopped. 500 mag tube is similar length as 590 18.5" barreled shotgun and holds 5 rounds. 590 factory sbs has 6.5" forend instead of 7.625" and the shorter mag tube. Thats what i answered. You can cut to 16 inches without shortening the mag and moving the barrel lug. Right I was agreeing with you because Shermantor seemed confused. Quickest way to gauge barrel length and where to cut is drop a rod down the barrel with a closed action and mark the rod at the muzzle. That's the barrel length.. measure back from the mark to gauge how far back from the muzzle you should cut. Leave a little for refacing the muzzle. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 10:00:27 AM EDT
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I also bought one of these and just got it last week. The only parts I have bought so far are the stock and a 10 round mag. Anyway I do plan to Form 1 it into a SBS, could someone that has a 500 tell me what the length is from the receiver to end of barrel and what that barrel length is? Thanks length cut off just ahead of the barrel nut is 15-1/2 inches Umm that doesn't tell me anything I wanted to know. Sorry I thought you wanted to know how short you can go without altering the mag tube and barrel. Rule of thumb is add 1 inch. Example: A 20 inch measurement from the receiver to the end of the barrel measures 21 inches inside to the breechface. Thanks, that is more what I am looking for, so it's about 1" in difference. I don't have a barrel yet so I am unable to measure it myself. I was asking so I can put the OAL length within a half inch or so on the Form 1, which I plan to get to the CLEO for sign off later this week. So I plan to build a SBS with a 10" Barrel. So to figure out my OAL: length from front of the receiver to the end of the but stock extended is 23.25" + ~9.25" for the 10" barrel minus the about 1" so I'll go with .75" to give me an OAL of 32.5" I know for the 10" build, I will have to move and modify the take down lug under the barrel, modify the magazine tube, and the Action Slide. I called one place to get an estimate to do that and it was $400.00 I think I'll be able to do it myself or have some buddies help me out. I was thinking I can actually work on doing all the mods minus cutting the barrel before I even get the approved Form 1 back, (well that depends on how long it takes with my procrastination might be approved before I even get the barrel ordered LOL) |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 10:22:46 AM EDT
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