Okay, yeah, that's bad-ass.

What light is that and how does it mount to the Mesa Tactical rail?

I figured it out, it's a Surefire, don't see it on their website so I think it's discontinued.

That is sooooooo smokin' hot!

I really like 13" LOP on my conventional stocked shotguns. The shortest I've done is a 10" LOP, and it was too short for my 5'9" girlfriend at the time.

I did an 11" LOP and it was too short for my 5'6" boss. The guy I made it for was 5'4", amd he ended up putting a Hogue 12" ShortStock on it because it was too short.

Paul Gomez was 5'6", and he prefered the 12" Hogue. He got me into short stocks.


Left to right: 13", 12", 11"


11" LOP and I'm 6'4". Too short!


My 5'6" boss with the 11" LOP. Too short!


Also, with a semi-auto self loading shotgun, stock length is less critical, because you don't need to operate the foreend.

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FWIW, my current set-up is a Mag-Pul fore-end, with a piece of their rail, with a VTAC
mount, holding a basic, Sure-Fire G2. It's not as cool as the lights a lot of guys have on
their HD set-ups, but it lights up every corner of my domicile, and highlights my front sight
nicely. I'm satisfied that it will do in any indoor situation. HTH..


ETA: A pic for reference.

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Here is my contribution to this thread after using many of the tips and tricks shown here an elsewhere on arfcom.

Started life as a Mossberg 500c 20g 26" blued/wood from walmart circa 2008. I installed a hiviz orange front sight. I've killed a few dozen ducks with this gun in Western Oregon. Minor signs of rust.


The barrel was sent to Guncat and shortened to 18.5", cylinder bore, and he added an XS big dot tritium front sight. Excellent service and communication, extremely quick turn around. I will do business with Rose Action Sports again.
Sorry, I'm not busting out the tripod to get a steady pic

The OEM stock was removed and an OEM Mossberg youth wood stock was added. LOP is 12.75", OAL is just under 37"

I used Home Depot industrial strength velcro on the receiver to mount an esstac shotgun card. It was $5 for the velcro. My side saddle options were very limited being a mossberg 20g. I'm very happy with the esstac, it's built like a tank like all their gear. It holds 5 buckshot and 2 slugs
Uncle mike's buttcuff holds 3 buckshot and 2 slugs.

I used JB weld per the DIY thread in the precision rifle forum to add texture to the palm swell.


The sling is homemade with 1" coyote webbing and other parts from supply captain and rockywoods. It's custom fit to the weapon, approx $15 invested. Clearly this whole project is the "budget" route so this is fitting.
Alice buckle is the key component


The only part I'm upset about is the forearm. I had to butcher this part so it wouldn't ram into the esstac shotgun card. .It will get some more TLC and a coat of paint


End result
Ammo is Federal 2 3/4" #3 buck and Federal Premium 2 3/4" Tru-ball slugs

870 Police with Magpul SGA & Wilson Combat +2 Mag ext.

Nice. 4" 686?

Yep. One of my favorites.

this is a great thread.

I'm having trouble deciding on the front sight replacement.  Right now on the Win Def 1300 its just the dark brass, semi flattened bead.

This article is dead-on. I built up an 870 Express Magnum "security" model about 11 years ago, and spent too much money playing with it. I don't even know how many stocks I've gone through (AR15 style, speed feed IV, stock stippled & rubbercoated, 13" shortened police stock, but there are more...) I spent the money back then for the state of the art 90 lumin incandescent sf618 dedicated weapon light forend, had the barrel Vang Comped and added MMC tritium sights, and put on a three point Specter Gear (different name back then) sling, and had the whole thing gunkoted. I hung a tapco side saddle on it, then made my own esstac cards before I knew anyone else was doing it. I then had my wife's sewing machine rebuilt. I mounted a rail to the top, then played with an older Aimpoint on it. When that failed under repeated slug recoil, I played with the idea of putting an AR carry handle on it and having a matching rail soldered to the barrel for a front BUIS.  It rattled around with me in a patrol car, lubricated by little other than German Shepherd drool and hair. I hiked many miles with it and abused it in sand, mud, snow and rain. It has consumed thousands of rounds, with the majority being slugs and full-house 00. Despite my abuse, it never failed, but I found out what I didn't need.

Now, 90 lumins is laughable, as is the battery life, bulk and weight,
MMC is out of business.... And the tritium has long since faded, and the front sight may be bent just a hair.
I have a pile of unused stocks collecting dust.
The Specter sling has been disected and is now a two point sling on an M14,
Federal has developed Flitecontrol ammunition that will rival the patterns of a VCS barrel.
The gunkote is chipping away rapidly.

The only updates that I did that I'm still totally sold on are the Vang Comp big head safety and the Wilson Combat / Scattergun Tech mag extension, follower and spring, though in the future I wouldn't buy a mag extension with a built-in sling mount, as it limits future development.

So its time for an update.
I don't need tritium, especially with white light. I only need a two point sling. I certainly wouldn't mind having more light with more burn time at a lighter weight. Speed and smoothness of operation is more important than cool colors, so reducing drag between the mag tube and slide, rails and receiver, and bolt and receiver will be paramount.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd probably wait and find a beat to hell old wingmaster, shorten the barrel to 18" and install a high viz front sight,  put a WC/ST mag extension, spring and follower on it, replace the furniture with a magpul forearm and Hogue 12" rear, and put some sort of 1" LED on the forearm. A simple web 2 point sling, mounted at 6 O'clock will be sufficient. Some sort of big head safety is worth the ten bucks, but so would a drop of thread locker locking the safety off. I keep all my shotguns patrol-ready, so I don't have a use for the safety.

Hell, I might still do that, after this one is done.

I guess it comes down to this: KISS works. Quality parts with few moving or proprietary pieces are best.

YMMV, but I now see a lot of beauty in the simplicity of a fighting shotgun.

Just my $.02

FR
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Happiness is a smoking 870...



Started with an 870 Police Mag with a side saddle.



Short barreled it for maneuverability & getting out of vehicles faster



Added a Surefire integrated light fore end for those things that go bump in the dark



Went even shorter & easier to handle by adding a Sage International 870 stock and a CTR Magpul stock. Also added a VTAC 2-point sling. Not pictured is the 3/4" cheek riser & 3/4 inch recoil pad added to the CTR stock for comfort. A couple of spare batteries are nested in the pistol grip, and this gun is much more user friendly as a fighting gun.

I'm 5'11" and a 11" LOP is perfect for me. It all depends on your shooting style and stance.

I square my shoulders which pushes the gun about 5" more forward and I can juuuust reach the slide.

Is there a generally accepted "preferred" side saddle for a Remington 870?

I'll be joining the ranks of the shotgunners soon.

ETA Looking at the GG&G

http://www.skdtac.com/Esstac-Shotgun-Card-p/ess.106.htm

Updated configuration. Ditched my SF dedicated forend and Speedfeed Youth Stock. SBS'ed to 12.5", added RemChokes, Ares Gear ammo panel and Magpul Kit. Waiting on my SilencerCo Salvo 12 suppressor.

 

Has anyone used the GG&g shotgun pump mount at the 9 O clock position  yet with an Enforce WML??

Went semi-auto with mine.  This was originally a '70's era Remington 1100 wood stocked "Deer Gun" with 22" improved cylinder barrel with rifle sights.   Additions are the SpeedFeed IV stock, Mesa Tactical top rail and side saddle shell holder, EOTech/Insight tactical weapon light with tape switch to right side forestock, mounted on a +7 magazine extension.   Sling is Brownell's Latigo.  Red dot sight is optional, and usuually redundant if the weapon light is present.

Can you expound a bit on how you modified it to work? I have a qd set and stock just like yours and need to meld them together

My new Weatherby. Picked it up new last month for 325.00 + tax

I'll bite. Just finished mine.






 

I'm in on this too

Had this 870 for almost 15yrs. Home defense model or somethin like that. Came with factory extension, which i discovered is a godsend LOL
Somewhere along the line someone gave me the magnetic fiber optic sight and i decided to take 'er apart and rattle can the OD green cpl yrs ago
Anyhow, over the last cpl weeks ive thrown some cash at it.....
Magpul SGA stock and MOE forend, i got on the cheap. Scattergun oversized safety, mag spring, and follower.
Tac star saddle.
I got some HSG velcro saddles and im also looking at Esstac velcro saddles...i may make the mod, not sure yet.

plan on adding QD socket in the stock and the magpul QD socket barrel clamp
cpl ppl said i should polish internals......i use this gun in 3 gun matches now as well as HD.

enough of the rambles, bring on the pics!!

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Who the fuck are you? Sorry, but I have to ask after some pictures like that!

does this mean you like them

Don't know about him, but I do.  

The second and fourth from the top, specially.  

Who makes them?

those two KSG's in the last pic I know that one foregrip is the Stark angled, what is the other one? And which do you prefer and why?

Yeah, I do. Holy shit, those are some impressive shotguns!
I've seen plenty of KSG's but never any like those.

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Benelli SNT with Mesa Tactical side saddle and OSOE Mirco Rig. Just needs a light. Ammo choice is Federal Flite Control 8-pellet 00 buckshot. I previously used an 870 with a XS Big Dot. The SNT is a rugged, reliable powerhouse!

Sure do. I just use the GRS since they're there.





Lots of deer too but no pics.

Remington 870 Wingmaster (70’s vintage)
18.5” barrel with XS Big Dot T3 sight
GG&G 2-shot extension
Magpul stock
Streamlight forend

Loaded with #4 and 00 Buck

Resurrected a thread that should have never died

Stoeger M3000 Defense Freedom
Chopped stock to 13”
Added rail section for light
Added jumbo safety

Setting up my 870 with magpul furniture and an optic rail with side saddle. I have a molle pouch for shotshells that id like to attach to the right side of the buttstock and i have an inforce WML I’m thinking of putting on the handguard. Anyone had experience with the gen 2s on a shotgun? Any ideas how to adapt molle to an SGA?