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Posted: 5/14/2012 2:33:04 PM
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Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.



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Posted: 5/14/2012 3:26:23 PM
Originally Posted By ch139:
Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/DSC02562.jpg

Very nice!
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Posted: 5/14/2012 9:34:03 PM
Originally Posted By ch139:
Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/DSC02562.jpg



Some history on what makes them Navy and Marine Corps 870s?
LCpl. Nigel K. Olsen March 4th, 2010 Southern Helmand Province, Afghanistan
LCpl. Carlos C. Aragon March 1st, 2010 Southern Helmand Province, Afghanistan
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Posted: 5/15/2012 12:51:32 AM
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By ch139:
Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/DSC02562.jpg



Some history on what makes them Navy and Marine Corps 870s?

Info from different books (Canfield and Swearenger mostly) Navy and Air Force bought "kits" from Remington for existing 870 which included the bayonet adapter and +3 magazine extension, sometime a new 20-inch CYL barrel too). The Marine Corps bought a number of 870 Mark I shotguns from Remington in 1969, those guns were speced by the Marine Corps... 21-inch MOD choked rifle-sighted barrel, adapter with rifle sight, Wingmaster style forend without checkering, finish and so on.

As far as these guns go both are in the correct respective serial number range per info from Canfield's book. The Navy gun (should really be Navy/Air Force) has the correct dated 20-inch CYL barrel (not all that difficult to do) and by far the most difficult piece to find, the barrel clamp/bayonet adapter this one is the two-piece unit with bead sight. I have a correct stock (old "scalloped" style with plate, not pad) and sling swivel for it, just need to find a nice walnut Police style forend for it (the one that is on it in the pic is really beat). Then send stock, swivel and forend to my "wood guy" for beautification.

The clone of the Marine Corps 870 Mark I is a lot further from the finish line. Finding a real Mark I barrel is never going to happen, so I'm figuring I need to find a correct 1969 dated 26-inch MOD choked hunting barrel and have it cut to 21-inches; it will "look" right, but really be a CYL bore rather than the correct MOD choke (thing is, those barrels come attached tro guns - have to buy another 870 ). Like the Navy/Air Force gun the SN is correct for the range or real Mark I shotguns: S100xxxV. I have the correct forend (as seen in the pic), have a correct buttstock (just like the Navy gun above uses) and even have a second adapter (when it rains it pours, been looking for years and got them a couple weeks apart ). The second adapter I have is a correct two-piece unit but does not have a sight on it, bead, rifle or otherwise. Need to find a vintage set of Remington rifle sights for the shotgun (sights for rifles have screw holes in them, sights for shotguns do not).

Apologize for being so long winded and yet it's a very brief outline. Been working on these two guns for several years now and am getting closer. Inch by inch.

This is a pic of the Navy gun right after getting it back from being parked and its being hosed down with oil, soakin it up. The park is really very close in color to the adapter and magazine extension (those were not reparked). Will have to get some better pics once the wood is done and on there.




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Posted: 5/15/2012 2:54:22 AM
Originally Posted By ch139:
Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By ch139:
Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/DSC02562.jpg



Some history on what makes them Navy and Marine Corps 870s?

Info from different books (Canfield and Swearenger mostly) Navy and Air Force bought "kits" from Remington for existing 870 which included the bayonet adapter and +3 magazine extension, sometime a new 20-inch CYL barrel too). The Marine Corps bought a number of 870 Mark I shotguns from Remington in 1969, those guns were speced by the Marine Corps... 21-inch MOD choked rifle-sighted barrel, adapter with rifle sight, Wingmaster style forend without checkering, finish and so on.

As far as these guns go both are in the correct respective serial number range per info from Canfield's book. The Navy gun (should really be Navy/Air Force) has the correct dated 20-inch CYL barrel (not all that difficult to do) and by far the most difficult piece to find, the barrel clamp/bayonet adapter this one is the two-piece unit with bead sight. I have a correct stock (old "scalloped" style with plate, not pad) and sling swivel for it, just need to find a nice walnut Police style forend for it (the one that is on it in the pic is really beat). Then send stock, swivel and forend to my "wood guy" for beautification.

The clone of the Marine Corps 870 Mark I is a lot further from the finish line. Finding a real Mark I barrel is never going to happen, so I'm figuring I need to find a correct 1969 dated 26-inch MOD choked hunting barrel and have it cut to 21-inches; it will "look" right, but really be a CYL bore rather than the correct MOD choke (thing is, those barrels come attached tro guns - have to buy another 870 ). Like the Navy/Air Force gun the SN is correct for the range or real Mark I shotguns: S100xxxV. I have the correct forend (as seen in the pic), have a correct buttstock (just like the Navy gun above uses) and even have a second adapter (when it rains it pours, been looking for years and got them a couple weeks apart ). The second adapter I have is a correct two-piece unit but does not have a sight on it, bead, rifle or otherwise. Need to find a vintage set of Remington rifle sights for the shotgun (sights for rifles have screw holes in them, sights for shotguns do not).

Apologize for being so long winded and yet it's a very brief outline. Been working on these two guns for several years now and am getting closer. Inch by inch.

This is a pic of the Navy gun right after getting it back from being parked and its being hosed down with oil, soakin it up. The park is really very close in color to the adapter and magazine extension (those were not reparked). Will have to get some better pics once the wood is done and on there.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/0330120720.jpg




Very cool man thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
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Posted: 5/16/2012 6:55:20 PM
H&R Pardner Pump 12 gauge with a Hogue stock set and a Hi-Viz front sight

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Posted: 5/16/2012 7:06:01 PM
growing up, my dad had more than a few rifles and pistols but only one shotgun (a mossberg 500). like him, I was never really interested in shotguns until recently, so here it is- my first shotty. a basic remington 870 express. hopefully i can start throwing some clays soom without looking like an idiot
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Posted: 5/16/2012 10:44:36 PM
Originally Posted By Riddle:
growing up, my dad had more than a few rifles and pistols but only one shotgun (a mossberg 500). like him, I was never really interested in shotguns until recently, so here it is- my first shotty. a basic remington 870 express. hopefully i can start throwing some clays soom without looking like an idiot
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/riddle223/870.jpg

Great looking gun! I have a new in box one just like it. I've yet to fire it. I bought it for my birthday a couple of years ago, and it was the laminate furniture that sold me on it.
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Posted: 5/17/2012 11:55:51 AM
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Here Is My Mossberg 500 with a couple hundred bucks in it:

MESA Tactical LEO Adapter
MESA Tactical 6 shot Sure Shell Side Saddle
Magpul MOE Stock
Magpul MIAD Grip
UTG Buffer Tube (Receiver Extension)
Hogue Rubberized Forend
Mossberg 18.5" Security Barrel
I do also have the Magpul .75 cheek riser on Backwards...
I took it off because I broke my Chinese Red Dot..



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Posted: 5/21/2012 4:45:25 AM
^^^

That 870 on the left is so beautifully simple. Coming from a diehard mossberg fan
If it isnt too much of a task, more pictures of that would be appreciated. Id love to have one just like it.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 4:56:45 PM
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NEF Pardner Pump.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 6:49:23 PM
Originally Posted By Itsricmo:
Here Is My Mossberg 500 with a couple hundred bucks in it:

MESA Tactical LEO Adapter
MESA Tactical 6 shot Sure Shell Side Saddle
Magpul MOE Stock
Magpul MIAD Grip
UTG Buffer Tube (Receiver Extension)
Hogue Rubberized Forend
Mossberg 18.5" Security Barrel
I do also have the Magpul .75 cheek riser on Backwards...
I took it off because I broke my Chinese Red Dot..

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk73/vendetta642/overview-1.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk73/vendetta642/PG.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk73/vendetta642/Saddle.jpg



Whats the Kick like with that mesa tactical adapter compared to a factory remington stock? Ive been looking at one but i dont want the kick to rattle my skull
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Posted: 5/21/2012 7:30:19 PM
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Whats the Kick like with that mesa tactical adapter compared to a factory remington stock? Ive been looking at one but i dont want the kick to rattle my skull


I can answer this for you. I had a Mesa "High" adapter w/ Hogue grip, and Emod stock on my 870. It was a lot nicer then shooting with the factory stock. I could shoot 100rnds through during a range trip(about 2hrs) and feel perfectly fine after.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 9:05:29 PM
........Add to cart....
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Posted: 5/22/2012 4:56:15 AM
Originally Posted By JFCreally:
Originally Posted By Tohbii:
Whats the Kick like with that mesa tactical adapter compared to a factory remington stock? Ive been looking at one but i dont want the kick to rattle my skull


I can answer this for you. I had a Mesa "High" adapter w/ Hogue grip, and Emod stock on my 870. It was a lot nicer then shooting with the factory stock. I could shoot 100rnds through during a range trip(about 2hrs) and feel perfectly fine after.


100rnds in 2 hours!! Maybe I should switch to a pump!! I go through 100 rnds at the cowboy action range with my semi's in under 30min!TOOO MUCH FUN!!!!LOL!!!!
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100rnds in 2 hours!! Maybe I should switch to a pump!! I go through 100 rnds at the cowboy action range with my semi's in under 30min!TOOO MUCH FUN!!!!LOL!!!!


Well, considering I have 10 other guns with me...........
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Posted: 5/23/2012 5:06:13 AM
Good point!!I used to take a pile with me too, now I've started limiting myself to 4 or 5 and then just shoot one until I'm out of ammo then switch!LOL!
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:33:33 AM
My Mossberg 590A1

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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:49:41 PM
Just found out what this was today Savage 520 20ga.

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Just found out what this was today Savage 520 20ga.
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/JFCreally/100_5813.jpg


nice, does it break down?
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Just found out what this was today Savage 520 20ga.
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w424/JFCreally/100_5813.jpg


nice, does it break down?


Yes. Surprised it came apart so easy considering it was buried in my parents Attic for 10+ years.
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Posted: 5/24/2012 4:16:14 PM
Originally Posted By ch139:
Not the best pic ever, but the Navy 870 and Marine Corps 870 Mark 1 projects starting to take shape.

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg521/IthacaM37/Remington%20Wingmaster%20870%20-%20NAVY/DSC02562.jpg



Very nice. All we had on my last ship were beat to hell Mossberg 500s.
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Two of the finest things, Makers and Mossberg!
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