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Posted: 10/30/2008 10:58:40 AM EDT
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Page 5 ownage!
I'm in the market myself for maybe a Buckmark |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2008 6:54:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: biologicole]
[#2]
After much deliberation I purchased a Buckmark UDX slabside with a 5 1/2" barrel and rosewood grips. It was a hard choice, but the ease of cleaning, along with the slab side, convinced me. The Ruger MKIII slab side did not have anywhere the comfortable feel of the Browning. My Buckmark is a very accurate gun, but can be picky about the ammo. It is also one of the best looking pistols that I own.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2008 10:09:59 PM EDT
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I voted Ruger MK. I just sold 2 pos P22s that had FTF/jam issues. I'm not sure if they were part of a recall or what but they were not reliable at all. I went through both guns, cleaned the piss out of 'em, and still didn't work. Tried match CCI's and Win. grey box, different mags, nothing worked. Now, that said I have a friend and his runs great, even with a can and subsonics. I'm in the market for another Mk 2(my last one was stolen).
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LA, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2008 10:40:59 PM EDT
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My little Taurus PT22 will hit a Nutria in the eye at 30 feet. Done it hundreds of times over the years. Once or twice had a fail to eject, but that's it.
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Posted: 1/9/2009 5:48:18 PM EDT
[#5]
It's obvious this is a popularity poll (which is fine), but a comparison of the pistols listed using the character qualities listed, the 41 is number 1. I own two of the pistols listed, and the 41 is not one of them. There is a reason you can buy 3 p22s, or two mks for the price of the 41. I borrowed one from a friend a few years back, and avoided him for a few months so I didn't have to give it back. There is nothing wrong with most of the guns listed, and I am personally saving up for a suppressed ruger mk, but I think the 41 is the top of the list.
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Posted: 1/10/2009 8:58:13 PM EDT
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[Untacked, due to the crossover to the new forum, which will prevent voting in polls originating on the old version. Thread will not be sent to the archives for the time being. -OdT]
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2009 11:32:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Although I've always considered getting a Hammerli, or a S&W 41, I don't dabble in bullseye anymore, so, I've put my money in other toys.
Years ago, when the original High Standard was in buisness, I THOUGHT I'd take a step up from the Ruger I was shooting and bought a brand new, top of the line Victor. I liked that it came apart easier than the Ruger, and I liked the "feel" of it better, but, it wasn't as accurate as the Ruger and it had a habit of not wanting to fire all the time. I'm currently down to 3 .22 semi auto pistols. One old, Browning Nomad,that I inherited, a Ruger stainell slabside, and a Ruger Goverment. Out of the 3, the Goverment is the most accurate. With the right ammo, it will keep 10 shots under an inch at 50 yards. 
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2009 5:17:28 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By OdT:
[Untacked, due to the crossover to the new forum, which will prevent voting in polls originating on the old version. Thread will not be sent to the archives for the time being. -OdT] Awwww man... com'on 
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Posted: 1/14/2009 9:18:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By PBIR:
No love for the old High Standards? I have a High Standard Supermatic Trophy that I bought new in 1979 and it has to be one of the most reliable and accurate guns I've ever shot. |
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Posted: 1/14/2009 9:20:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By Jamul123: Originally Posted By OdT: [Untacked, due to the crossover to the new forum, which will prevent voting in polls originating on the old version. Thread will not be sent to the archives for the time being. -OdT] Awwww man... com'on We'll test it when we crossover, and retack it if the poll still allows new votes. (I hope so too.... good thread) |
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Posted: 1/20/2009 5:06:27 PM EDT
[#11]
I've got a G22, a Mosquito, and a MkII, and there's no contest, accuracy-wise. The G22 and Mosquito are fun plinkers, but accuracy is mediocre, and reliability is hit and miss.
Put a red dot on a MkII or MkIII, and you've got the most accuracy you can get for the money, as well as lots of upgrades if you swing that way. I put a VQ hammer/sear on mine and a trigger shield to keep the crud out, and it's my most accurate .22. I also have a Ciener adapter for my 1911 and a CZ75B with a Kadet adapter, but don't really shoot them that much, so it's hard to compare, but they both out-shoot the G22 and Mosquito easily. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2009 3:09:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jamul123:
I keep thinking I want to get a p22, but it just seems really hit and miss as far as reliablilty goes. What do you guys think is the most reliable semi .22 pistol? I'll do a poll if it's debatable. ETA: Poll added Im not sure if someione has said this, and im not going to look through five pages to figure out, but Walther fixed all their problems with the P22. Its something like an "A" to look for in the serial number. I can't remember for sure. They fixed the mags too. The new P22 and mags are reliable as all get out. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/25/2009 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By DLB-NRAlife:
Originally Posted By PBIR:
No love for the old High Standards? I have a High Standard Supermatic Trophy that I bought new in 1979 and it has to be one of the most reliable and accurate guns I've ever shot. +1 for my Supermatic Trophy, +1 for my Supermatic Citation. I've needed to replace a couple trigger springs, but otherwise excellent, accurate pistols. |
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Posted: 1/31/2009 3:07:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By hh47:
Originally Posted By DLB-NRAlife:
Originally Posted By PBIR:
No love for the old High Standards? I have a High Standard Supermatic Trophy that I bought new in 1979 and it has to be one of the most reliable and accurate guns I've ever shot. +1 for my Supermatic Trophy, +1 for my Supermatic Citation. I've needed to replace a couple trigger springs, but otherwise excellent, accurate pistols. There is only one thing better than owning one Supermatic and thats owning two.Good for you. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2009 11:55:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Hamden High Standards!
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2009 1:07:40 AM EDT
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I have a model 41 that is super accurate, but has had problems ever since I got it. I don't know if it is the mags, the ammo or what, but every time I take it out it will fire the first round, chamber the next, but the hammer won't be cocked. I've tried different brands of ammo, but it still always happens. Meanwhile, my buddy is usually next to me shooting his mk II gov't just as accurately, but with no issues. I shot one of those walthers, and it felt like a cap gun, and ejected every casing directly toward my face or down my collar. Did not like.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2009 1:50:56 PM EDT
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Here's a question....what do you mean by accurate? Is accurate putting a quarter sized grouping in a target 50 or even 25yrds away? Because in the functional real world, that only happens at the range. Or are we talking accuracy at 7yrds or less which has been proven to be the distance of most law enforcement firefights? Before I retired from the NYPD our fire cycle was 5rds from 25yrds, 10 from 15 yrds and 35 from 7yrds. essentially you could flub every shot from the farther distances and still qualify..you needed a 78 and each rd counted as 2pts..although that is not too comforting. I have a P22 a newer one. It does not jam, it does not malfunction in any way. Not that i would wish to have to use it in a combat situation but at 7yrds, I know I could hit a target accurately.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2009 11:45:50 PM EDT
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By accurate, I mean I am able to hit soda cans out past 50 yards. I don't usually shoot groups with my .22s, mostly just for having fun plinking, and definitely not for a defensive situation. Not trying to put down the walther, it just was not my favorite.
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USA
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Posted: 7/6/2009 10:46:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xm193cure]
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Once it was properly cleaned, this used and at one time INCREDIBLY dirty MKIII has purred through thousands of rounds. Here is a typical range day result (I can't seem to get my grip settled; hence the drift to port). The 7 was me poking the pooch.
Box stock in every respect. 
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Posted: 7/6/2009 11:51:11 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2009 9:20:20 PM EDT
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I shot the Ruger 22/45 shoots everything the heavier barrel helps with cycling and feeding than lighter ones, I too was going down this road really like the p22 but fell in love with ruger. Ruger makes some of the best firearms I have fired. Mini 14 is awesome, no flaws. Blackhawks nice looking. 10/22 wonderful. MK series 22lr all are great, My thumbs usually give out from loading the mags before the gun gets me down.
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AR, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2009 12:20:42 PM EDT
[#22]
big fan of the CZ kadet here.
If you own a CZ or Glock, get the .22 kit for them, your shooting WILL improve for less $$$. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2009 8:54:14 PM EDT
[#23]
P22, hands down. I have both the MK III Hunter and the P22. I just bought my Ruger, and I still haven't finish breaking it in...but this thing jams like hell. The P22 can digest all that I run through it.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2009 9:09:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By A04039:
The S&W is a different animal from the other pistols listed. IMO it is the most accurate of the lot, and the most expensive. The P22 can only be classified as a plinker, and is not in the same league as the Rugers or Buckmark. I voted for the Rugers, specifically the Mkll. Again, just my opinion. a04039 Boy how wrong you are. I shoot my P22 with iron sights @ 50 yards and had tighter groups than my MK III Hunter with a fixed scope. Just my opinion too! P22 is flawless when it comes to reliability. |
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Posted: 8/7/2009 10:03:33 PM EDT
[#25]
I have a Glock 21 with an AA kit... I have been looking for a rellable 22 that will shoot shotshell and subsonics and have narrowed it down to a Heiratige Arms 4.5 inch revolver....Gonna use it for a boat gun plinker... Anyone have any experience shooting shotshell or subsonics out of a 22LR semi Auto????
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Posted: 8/10/2009 7:37:28 AM EDT
[#26]
bump
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OR, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2009 11:37:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By Jeteye:
I have a Glock 21 with an AA kit... I have been looking for a rellable 22 that will shoot shotshell and subsonics and have narrowed it down to a Heiratige Arms 4.5 inch revolver....Gonna use it for a boat gun plinker... Anyone have any experience shooting shotshell or subsonics out of a 22LR semi Auto???? .22 shotshells are good for slaughtering dandelions from 5 feet away...... doubt it would do much good defending your boat from anything but mosquitoes. any of the semis mentioned here ( save the S&W 41, its not what your looking for ) should be fine for subsonic shooting, but will probably need break-in |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2009 11:40:03 PM EDT
[#28]
my vote goes for a beretta 87 cheetah, i shot one that my friend had and it blows everything away (save the S&W 41)
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SC, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2009 12:12:05 AM EDT
[#29]
I have a Ruger Mark II 6 7/8 inch barrel that I bought in 1976. I won the only 50 foot animal target match I shot in with it. Super accurate ane reliable. I just bought a 70's era HS Supermatic Trophy with the 7 inch barrel that in like new condition. Only shot it for function so far. I also have the opportunity to buy 2 Mod 41's if I so desire,
JR |
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SD, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2009 12:29:17 PM EDT
[#30]
S&W Model 41.
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Posted: 9/22/2009 5:46:35 PM EDT
[#31]
why is the Sig Mos not in the poll?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2009 6:33:14 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
OST. Been looking for a good 22 pistol. So far I have moved away from the P22 and thinking more about a conversion kit for the 1911. If you like the 1911 grip go with a Ruger 22/45. Same grip angle and no different in the action at the Mark I-III. They are bullet proof and accurate as the best out there. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2009 11:18:18 PM EDT
[#33]
I've owned about every .22 pistol you can think of, from Colt Woodsmans to Walther Olympic Match pistols, and none have proven more accurate or reliable than the Chiappa 1911-22 that I paid 300.00 for!
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Posted: 11/24/2009 3:06:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: roadrash]
[#34]
I like my MK2 target,it is very accurate /reliable/and has alot of aftermarket goodies available for it ,that will turn it into a top shelf target gun ,if you lean that way!
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Posted: 12/22/2009 10:21:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By REDMASTA:
why is the Sig Mos not in the poll? Because it it a total POS......pure junk. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2010 2:10:57 AM EDT
[#36]
i like the sig it shoots as good as my p22 and my mk iii
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Posted: 1/20/2010 8:17:23 AM EDT
[#37]
i have a sig with the threaded barrel and have over 3500 rounds of cci blazers through it with no problems at all!
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2010 5:53:18 PM EDT
[#38]
the only time my P22 has failed is when its dirty and with silencer attached
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USA
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Posted: 3/7/2010 11:29:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xd-shawn]
[#39]
AA glock conversion should be in the poll
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BEL
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Posted: 3/18/2010 2:07:06 PM EDT
[#40]
YES
love it too |
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Posted: 3/24/2010 8:00:16 AM EDT
[#41]
What, No Walther Olympia? No Colt Woodsman or Smith 41? OP's poll choices fail.
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Posted: 3/24/2010 8:23:47 AM EDT
[#42]
I've got a Sig Mosquito with the threaded barrel. More accurate than I am out to 25 yards, which is the distance of the indoor range I use. I've got somewhere around 1,000 rounds through it so far and it's been flawless with CCIs & Federal Bulk Pack.
It's also a damn fine looking pistol. |
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Posted: 3/30/2010 7:19:31 PM EDT
[#43]
S&W 41 @ 7.3%
 Poll failed.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2010 8:05:53 PM EDT
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Buckmark
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2010 8:12:00 AM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:
Ruger Mk 2, or I've been looking at the 22/45 for awhile now, haven't picked one up yet though. If mags were cheaper I'd say go with the 1911 conversion, but they aren't  I've shot in pistol competition for years. When someone had an alibi, it was a Ruger most of the time. The Smith 41 is a jewel, but if you want to own THE gun, it has to be a Hamerlii or a Pardini. But those are for competiion, not shooting rats in the back yard.
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Posted: 6/13/2010 8:14:29 PM EDT
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Ruger MKI or MKII pistols are very reliable in my opinion.
Also my Manurhin Walther PPK .22lr is also very reliable and quite accurate. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 9:50:27 PM EDT
[#47]
I love my MKII but the last 3 or 4 times out with it I've constantly had failures with the rounds going all the way into battery. Some FTF's as well but those can be blamed on the mags. The first few thousand rounds were flawless but lately I've been very disappointed. It is a very accurate pistol and very solid, got the bull barrel. Today at around 75 yards was able to hit a spray paint can more often then not, until...well until there was a nice lead coat occluding the muzzle sending rounds 10 feet off target...
Accurate: yes Reliable: Failure to go into battery, ftf and fte. Worse when dirty but also happens clean. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 12:36:44 AM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By BillyDoubleU: I love my MKII but the last 3 or 4 times out with it I've constantly had failures with the rounds going all the way into battery. Some FTF's as well but those can be blamed on the mags. The first few thousand rounds were flawless but lately I've been very disappointed. It is a very accurate pistol and very solid, got the bull barrel. Today at around 75 yards was able to hit a spray paint can more often then not, until...well until there was a nice lead coat occluding the muzzle sending rounds 10 feet off target... Accurate: yes Reliable: Failure to go into battery, ftf and fte. Worse when dirty but also happens clean. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=50&t=52878 |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 1:06:20 AM EDT
[#49]
Thanks, I actually had to clean the crap out of it tonight. I don't know how to post pics on here but I had to use a hammer to tap the brush through, got enough lead out to cast another slug out of it...
I'll give it another scrub down before I take it out again and see if that takes care of the feeding problems. It was great for years and thousands of rounds but just lately been giving me trouble. Want to say it has between 3k-5k rounds through it... |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 1:20:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OdT]
[#50]
Originally Posted By BillyDoubleU: Thanks, I actually had to clean the crap out of it tonight. I don't know how to post pics on here but I had to use a hammer to tap the brush through, got enough lead out to cast another slug out of it... I'll give it another scrub down before I take it out again and see if that takes care of the feeding problems. It was great for years and thousands of rounds but just lately been giving me trouble. Want to say it has between 3k-5k rounds through it... Right on. I have one MKII with well over 40k rounds through it, and it still shoots at least as well as new today. I also had the same problem happen to that same gun early on, where it started keyholing bullet holes on paper targets. Looked through the bore and there was almost enough of a hole left to push a pencil lead through it. I pushed out a 1.5" long 'casting' with a cleaning rod. Took a lot of force to do it too.  The coated/dipped bullets won't ever cause that. Just the exposed lead ones common with standard velocity & target ammo. (It was Remington Thunderbolts that did it to mine. Rapid bulk fire  )Once I got it cleaned and working properly again, I swapped over to CCI Mini Mags, and the problem has never reoccurred again, even after some fairly extreme abuse. Scrub your chamber especially. Fouling at the front end of the chamber, near where the rifling begins, is likely what is preventing the bolt from sliding all the way home. (it takes fairly vigorous scrubbing in some cases. that crud bonds pretty hard from the heat, and it can be difficult to see too) |
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