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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:55:55 AM EDT
Why doesn't Kel-Tec make a PMR-30 in 22LR? I really like this gun, but have no desire to stock another caliber. There's nothing out there that's similar. Add a threaded barrel and a Sparrow and it would be perfect.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:06:08 PM EDT
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Because the stacking angle of the shorter .22LR is too extreme. You can stack more rounds of the longer .22 mag without it curving. The magazines would have to curve like the Ruger/Butler Creek/Ram-Line type 25 round ones.
Granted, the PMR30 uses two stacks of 15, then combines them for alternating feed at the top, but even two stacks of 15 .22LR would curve too much to keep it within the grip. So for .22LR, they'd have to do two stacks of 10 for a total capacity of 20, and even that might not feed reliably. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:54:32 AM EDT
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The FDE looks really good. I would really like to have one of these, but at the prices they are selling for and the questionable reliability, I'll pass.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:00:21 AM EDT
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Not sure about "questionable reliability," other than my reliability to find ammo. I stay away from winchester ammo and mine has never hiccuped on cci.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:07:13 AM EDT
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I've seen a video of Kel-Tec reps at shot show saying a .22lr conversion kit would shortly follow the release of the PMR-30, obviously hasn't happened yet, but maybe there is hope. 30 rounds of 22lr in a pistol would have me very excited! I love my PMR as is, but 22 mag is harder to get than 22lr here (and 22lr is hard) and so much more expensive.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:09:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the stacking angle of the shorter .22LR is too extreme. You can stack more rounds of the longer .22 mag without it curving. The magazines would have to curve like the Ruger/Butler Creek/Ram-Line type 25 round ones. Granted, the PMR30 uses two stacks of 15, then combines them for alternating feed at the top, but even two stacks of 15 .22LR would curve too much to keep it within the grip. So for .22LR, they'd have to do two stacks of 10 for a total capacity of 20, and even that might not feed reliably. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FDE looks really good. I would really like to have one of these, but at the prices they are selling for and the questionable reliability, I'll pass. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:42:49 AM EDT
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I get what your are talking about but there are 5 round mag extensions for the Ruger SR22 to take it to 15 in a straight magazine so maybe it could work? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because the stacking angle of the shorter .22LR is too extreme. You can stack more rounds of the longer .22 mag without it curving. The magazines would have to curve like the Ruger/Butler Creek/Ram-Line type 25 round ones. Granted, the PMR30 uses two stacks of 15, then combines them for alternating feed at the top, but even two stacks of 15 .22LR would curve too much to keep it within the grip. So for .22LR, they'd have to do two stacks of 10 for a total capacity of 20, and even that might not feed reliably. Could be, although the SR22 also has some slight left-right stagger in the magazine at the rear rim-end to get the rims down past each other a bit and take away a degree or two of the stacking angle as well. Perhaps KT doesn't have the room to use that trick with the twin column design. And mag extensions for the SR22? 
I had no idea such a thing existed. Off to search the interwebz. Thanks! 
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