Can't re-assemble 22/45

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Posted: 6/4/2014 12:11:28 AM EDT

It's the 22/45 lite.

Before the step of putting the back spring lever on, I am trying to drop the hammer against the firing pin so that there's clearance but it wont move.

When the upper is off, the hammer drops as usual, but when the upper is on, it only goes so far, not enough to put the grip lever on (idk what it's called)

Anyone ever have this issue?

Thanks

Posted: 6/4/2014 12:31:37 AM EDT

[#1]

Everyone has had this problem before they learned the proper way to disassemble an assemble the Ruger.

There are numerous videos on YouTube to help you with this issue.

Do you have the manual for the Ruger? If so, follow the directions exactly. I think you are on step 5, page 25.

Posted: 6/4/2014 1:23:28 AM EDT

[#2]

I got it.

Weird thing was that on videos, the hammer falls in the middle of the bolt naturally.

I had to hold the trigger down, wiggle the bolt left and right, while pushing the hammer down. hmm

Posted: 6/15/2014 9:00:17 PM EDT

[#3]

Don't feel bad, everyone I know that owns one of these has had to ask this question!!!

Posted: 6/16/2014 10:07:42 AM EDT

[#4]

The important thing, now, is to not forget this step in the future!

Posted: 6/17/2014 4:08:48 PM EDT

[#5]

It is a test of manhood to properly disassemble and reassemble a Ruger 22 pistol. You have passed, tho you lost points for asking questions.

Posted: 6/17/2014 4:12:34 PM EDT

[#6]

RTFM.

Posted: 6/22/2014 6:42:57 PM EDT

[#7]

I just use my little finger to push the hammer down, it'll pop back up once the bolt is inserted.

Posted: 6/22/2014 9:18:36 PM EDT

[#8]

removing the mag safety will help.

Posted: 6/22/2014 11:03:37 PM EDT

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Buddy have a nice Ruger pistol he bought used, thought he got a great deal. When he went to shoot it all the problems start showing up. He soon learned why the guy sold it to him cheap.

Short version of the story...I had him bring it over and we went through it piece by piece. In the end I told him to get rid of the mag safety crap. Guess what......Now its a perfect pistol. Seems many of these had issues with that safety. Besides, who needs it anyway?

Posted: 7/2/2014 11:22:34 PM EDT

[#10]

Not sure why Ruger requires its users to have a Mechanical Engineering degree from M.I.T. to re-assemble this gun.

I wanted to throw mine out the window - many times before I finally figured it out.

Posted: 7/10/2014 10:29:21 AM EDT

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Not sure why Ruger requires its users to have a Mechanical Engineering degree from M.I.T. to re-assemble this gun.

I wanted to throw mine out the window - many times before I finally figured it out.

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We've all been there.

I have "always" been very good at getting my MkII 22/45 back together....I just followed the instructions...no biggie.
Then ONE day, I couldn't get the thing back together to save my soul. I mean, I REALLY could NOT get it back together. I finally did get it back together and to this day, I have abso-fucking-lutely no idea what the hang-up was.

Posted: 7/10/2014 10:35:48 AM EDT

[#12]

This is why after probably 2k rounds I've still never taken mine apart. And it still runs like a champ!

Spray it down and punch the bore on occasion is about all I've ever done - its become something of an experiment at this point . . . .

Posted: 7/17/2014 1:57:18 AM EDT

[#13]

Save yourself time and headache by making sure the stupid safety lock is disengaged (I think the pistol ships with it engaged). I took mine out and chucked it.

Posted: 8/3/2014 10:29:33 AM EDT

[#14]

If you have the mag safety in the gun you have to insert a mag, pull trigger to release the hammer then remove mag and push the hammer the rest of the way forward. Or like was mentioned, simply remove the mag safery

Posted: 8/3/2014 12:21:57 PM EDT

[#15]

I didn't realize how much an improvement the mag safety removal was until the next time I shot/cleaned the gun. It makes me sad that they spent so much time and money engineering something that is such a waste.

I guess now I know how a diesel truck owner feels

Posted: 8/5/2014 11:37:27 PM EDT

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This is why after probably 2k rounds I've still never taken mine apart. And it still runs like a champ!

Spray it down and punch the bore on occasion is about all I've ever done - its become something of an experiment at this point . . . .

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I'm with you! Have mine over 10 years, took it apart when I first got it, worked up a 2 hour sweat-I think this was before Youtube!, Haven't done it since! Do the same as you!

Posted: 8/7/2014 7:54:41 PM EDT

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This is why after probably 2k rounds I've still never taken mine apart. And it still runs like a champ!

Spray it down and punch the bore on occasion is about all I've ever done - its become something of an experiment at this point . . . .

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I've had a Ruger MKII for 30 years and thousands of rounds through it. Never took it apart though.....ever.

Posted: 8/28/2014 11:20:45 PM EDT

[#18]

I feel your pain. It gets easier the more you do it.

Still love my 22/45 Lite though.

I think I won't take it apart anymore.

Posted: 8/29/2014 4:50:45 AM EDT

[#19]

I have since gotten used to it.

I feel like you have to "Break it in" by taking it apart many times hehe. I no longer have to hold the trigger down to get that link bar in.

Posted: 8/29/2014 4:50:45 AM EDT

[#20]

I have since gotten used to it.

I feel like you have to "Break it in" by taking it apart many times hehe. I no longer have to hold the trigger down to get that link bar in.

Posted: 8/30/2014 8:34:32 PM EDT

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I've had a Ruger MKII for 30 years and thousands of rounds through it. Never took it apart though.....ever.

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This is why after probably 2k rounds I've still never taken mine apart. And it still runs like a champ!

Spray it down and punch the bore on occasion is about all I've ever done - its become something of an experiment at this point . . . .

I've had a Ruger MKII for 30 years and thousands of rounds through it. Never took it apart though.....ever.

I'm kind of glad to hear that, I've got 800 rounds through the MKlll Hunter my wife bought me for Father's Day and I've been cleaning and lubing it with Q Tips and G 96 spray and cleaning the bore with Hoppes #9 and Breakfree CLP and a few strokes of a bore brush and follow up with a Boresnake.

I'm not crazy about punching the bore from the muzzle, but that's the way I have to do it on revolvers anyway.

The MKlll is running like a Rolex so far, even with Remington Golden Bullets.

Posted: 8/30/2014 11:19:39 PM EDT

[#22]

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Not sure why Ruger requires its users to have a Mechanical Engineering degree from M.I.T. to re-assemble this gun.

I wanted to throw mine out the window - many times before I finally figured it out.

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No, you just need a Mechanical Engineering degree. While I was getting my degree, I would practice at the schools pistol club. The club pistols were cleaned with q-tips without disassembling after use. They disassembled and cleaned them only once per year. They hardly ever malfunctioned.

Reassembly of the pistol requires you to understand a few things. First, how the hammer and hammer strut move. Second, how to move the pistol to drop the hammer without the main spring installed. Next, what position to place the partially installed main spring before positioning the hammer strut. Last, how to move and position the pistol to move the hammer strut before finally installing the main spring housing.

Posted: 8/31/2014 11:42:08 PM EDT

[#23]

It's a mystery, you can try a dozen times, and then on the final attempt that bitch goes in right. I think it's like rolling the dice.

Posted: 9/6/2014 12:38:57 PM EDT

[#24]

Yeah, I'm in the "took it apart once, and never again group". I spent the better portion of a cuss filled, 2 hours of hell. Trying to get my 22/45 back together. Never again.....................

Posted: 9/7/2014 9:46:11 PM EDT

[#25]

Don't worry, you'll have forgotten how you did it by the next time so it'll be just as frustrating then too.

When I disassemble mine I just sit in front front of the computer and have a video running to tell me how to do it.

Posted: 9/11/2014 9:51:41 PM EDT

[#26]

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Don't worry, you'll have forgotten how you did it by the next time so it'll be just as frustrating then too.

When I disassemble mine I just sit in front front of the computer and have a video running to tell me how to do it.

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This made me laugh because that's how I do it too!

Posted: 9/11/2014 10:07:43 PM EDT

[#27]

Doesn't someone make a replacement part set that greatly simplifies reassembly?

Posted: 9/11/2014 10:39:29 PM EDT

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Tandemkross has the slingshot

Slingshot

Posted: 9/12/2014 1:15:44 PM EDT

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I've had a Ruger MKII for 30 years and thousands of rounds through it. Never took it apart though.....ever.

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This is why after probably 2k rounds I've still never taken mine apart. And it still runs like a champ!

Spray it down and punch the bore on occasion is about all I've ever done - its become something of an experiment at this point . . . .

I've had a Ruger MKII for 30 years and thousands of rounds through it. Never took it apart though.....ever.

My gunsmith told me this after I took my 22/45 to him to help reassemble it. He had to use a dead blow hammer to mine to get it back together, and that was after having to remove some excess material. He did state that it will loosen up the more it is shot but to clean it you really do not have to take it all the way down.

Posted: 9/13/2014 9:54:59 PM EDT

[#30]

Non chlorinated brake cleaner works good.
The owners manual works for me for reassembly.
It even has pics, practically gun pornography.
I suspect the tl-Dr crowd has the biggest problem with reassembly.

Posted: 9/16/2014 12:03:14 AM EDT

[#31]

The smartest thing new Ruger shooters can do is to take it apart and reassemble it several times back to back.
The hammer strut needing to be in the right position is what causes 99% of the problems. It won't always fall into position even if you hold it right and pull the trigger a little, so I keep a 90* pick handy on my bench to pull it back.
After 3 or 4 times it gets easy. The fun comes when you decide to change parts like the trigger and sear. I had a pin walk out during reassembly and it was a bitch to push the spring back enough to push the pin through.

Posted: 9/20/2014 2:12:16 PM EDT

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The smartest thing new Ruger shooters can do is to take it apart and reassemble it several times back to back.
The hammer strut needing to be in the right position is what causes 99% of the problems. It won't always fall into position even if you hold it right and pull the trigger a little, so I keep a 90* pick handy on my bench to pull it back.
After 3 or 4 times it gets easy. The fun comes when you decide to change parts like the trigger and sear. I had a pin walk out during reassembly and it was a bitch to push the spring back enough to push the pin through.

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Yup, hold it upsidedown, wiggle it, and pull the trigger, it'll free up.

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:58:21 PM EDT

[#33]

Am I the only that that found this really easy? The most aggravating part was dealing the stupid mag-safety (insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that, insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that) BS while I was waiting for my Sam Lam bushings to come... after that my Ruger practically takes itself apart and puts itself back together... I would even go so far as to say I've dealt with MANY firearms that were much harder to disassemble...

Posted: 9/30/2014 3:55:30 PM EDT

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Am I the only that that found this really easy? The most aggravating part was dealing the stupid mag-safety (insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that, insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that) BS while I was waiting for my Sam Lam bushings to come... after that my Ruger practically takes itself apart and puts itself back together... I would even go so far as to say I've dealt with MANY firearms that were much harder to disassemble...

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Was yours new or used? I have noticed that ones that are well used come apart easily. New ones, not so much.

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:17:24 PM EDT

[#35]

I got fix for the ruger. It's called gun scrubber in a can plastic safe.

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:26:23 PM EDT

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Am I the only that that found this really easy? The most aggravating part was dealing the stupid mag-safety (insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that, insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that) BS while I was waiting for my Sam Lam bushings to come... after that my Ruger practically takes itself apart and puts itself back together... I would even go so far as to say I've dealt with MANY firearms that were much harder to disassemble...

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It depends on the individual gun in my experience.

My 22/45 and mkiii are easy despite the lawyer crap

My mki is a bitch

Others that I've taken apart have been randomly easy or hard

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:26:48 PM EDT

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I got fix for the ruger. It's called gun scrubber in a can plastic safe.

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Can't use gunscrubber to instal a VQ hammer and trigger

Posted: 10/2/2014 9:44:08 AM EDT

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Was yours new or used? I have noticed that ones that are well used come apart easily. New ones, not so much.

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Am I the only that that found this really easy? The most aggravating part was dealing the stupid mag-safety (insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that, insert mag, do this, remove mag, do that) BS while I was waiting for my Sam Lam bushings to come... after that my Ruger practically takes itself apart and puts itself back together... I would even go so far as to say I've dealt with MANY firearms that were much harder to disassemble...

Was yours new or used? I have noticed that ones that are well used come apart easily. New ones, not so much.

Brand new... are we talking about the physical difficulty in manipulating things or the intellectual difficulty in figuring out how things go together/come-apart? I can see a well-used gun helping with the actual physical effort part of that but I imagine the intellectual difficult doesn't change no matter how well-used it is.

Posted: 4/4/2015 10:01:19 AM EDT

[#39]

Just won a 2 day fight with my 22/45 lite. I went to bed last night having given up.

Posted: 4/4/2015 12:18:31 PM EDT

[#40]

Lol as a new owner of one my self, I had to laugh at this post.. Took me 3 hours to get mine back together the first time. I tired everything, even cursing at it.. Nothing worked. Remove the mag disconnect, and install This ( its the nest 10 bucks you can spend on this gun) and it becomes a much easier process..

Posted: 4/4/2015 12:21:43 PM EDT

[#41]

They are a bit finicky. But nobody has ever shot it and not liked it.

Posted: 4/5/2015 12:09:13 AM EDT

[#42]

Took me an hour of cussing the first time I took my new 22/45 apart a couple weeks ago. I'm a certified Glock and S&W armorer, but this Ruger almost made it to the burn pile!

Posted: 4/5/2015 8:23:46 AM EDT

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Took me an hour of cussing the first time I took my new 22/45 apart a couple weeks ago. I'm a certified Glock and S&W armorer, but this Ruger almost made it to the burn pile!

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I was okay on mine until I got to positioning the sear spring right. Even with a set of hemostats it was a bastard. After a range trip I found the trigger pin walking. Apparently if you miss that one retainer spring all sorts of weird happens.

Thankfully I'm never taking it down that far again.