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Posted: 1/17/2012 9:33:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2012 10:48:37 AM EST by Dog1]
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
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Posted: 1/17/2012 2:07:25 PM EST
Nice report. This was the one I was going to get until the SR22 came out.

Never know, I may get a wild hair and .......get both!
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Posted: 1/20/2012 11:03:54 PM EST
I want one bad..this thread is not helping my wallet..
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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:51:34 AM EST
What is this barrel block you speak of? Is it the threaded nut looking thing at the muzzle and what is it's purpose, never seen one on this gun before?
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Posted: 1/22/2012 6:06:10 AM EST
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
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Posted: 1/22/2012 4:03:06 PM EST
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Are you sure about the slide being machined aluminum. I really want one, but don't want a piece of junk pot metal slide like what is on the Walther P22.

There is a brand new thread on this board about a guy's Walther slide cracking, breaking, and hitting him in the face while shooting. Dangerous to say the least, at least he had saftey glasses on.

I want a factory threaded barrel, so Ruger's new SR 22 is out of the equation.

Still waiting on my Gemtech Outback IID to get approved by the ATF and I have been trying to figure out what pistol to get so I am ready to target practice when I pick up my suppressor.

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Posted: 1/22/2012 4:20:57 PM EST
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
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Posted: 1/22/2012 5:03:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/22/2012 5:05:27 PM EST by BlackRifle76]

Originally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By BlackRifle76:
Are you sure about the slide being machined aluminum. I really want one, but don't want a piece of junk pot metal slide like what is on the Walther P22.

There is a brand new thread on this board about a guy's Walther slide cracking, breaking, and hitting him in the face while shooting. Dangerous to say the least, at least he had saftey glasses on.

I want a factory threaded barrel, so Ruger's new SR 22 is out of the equation.

Still waiting on my Gemtech Outback IID to get approved by the ATF and I have been trying to figure out what pistol to get so I am ready to target practice when I pick up my suppressor.

Thanks for the write up and your time.


Yes, the slide is aluminum. It is not the pot metal crap of the P22.


Arent both pistols made by the same company in Germany though, Umerex or something?
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Posted: 1/22/2012 6:20:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By BlackRifle76:

Originally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By BlackRifle76:
Are you sure about the slide being machined aluminum. I really want one, but don't want a piece of junk pot metal slide like what is on the Walther P22.

There is a brand new thread on this board about a guy's Walther slide cracking, breaking, and hitting him in the face while shooting. Dangerous to say the least, at least he had saftey glasses on.

I want a factory threaded barrel, so Ruger's new SR 22 is out of the equation.

Still waiting on my Gemtech Outback IID to get approved by the ATF and I have been trying to figure out what pistol to get so I am ready to target practice when I pick up my suppressor.

Thanks for the write up and your time.


Yes, the slide is aluminum. It is not the pot metal crap of the P22.


Arent both pistols made by the same company in Germany though, Umerex or something?


Yes they are made by Walther who is owned by Umarex for Smith and Wesson to their specs. Just because Walther makes it, doesn't mean they make it the same way.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 6:37:25 AM EST
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Posted: 1/27/2012 1:05:11 AM EST
I've been thinking about getting one of these in the future. I live in NY though so the 12 round mag counts as a "Large capacity ammunition feeding device".

Do you think those mags could be easily permanently blocked to hold ten rounds?

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Posted: 1/27/2012 3:12:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bink67:
I've been thinking about getting one of these in the future. I live in NY though so the 12 round mag counts as a "Large capacity ammunition feeding device".

Do you think those mags could be easily permanently blocked to hold ten rounds?

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They are sold with either 10 or 12 round magazines with spares available for both. I think the S&W item number for the 10 round kit is #122000.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 3:34:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By ricksrifle:
Originally Posted By Bink67:
I've been thinking about getting one of these in the future. I live in NY though so the 12 round mag counts as a "Large capacity ammunition feeding device".

Do you think those mags could be easily permanently blocked to hold ten rounds?

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They are sold with either 10 or 12 round magazines with spares available for both. I think the S&W item number for the 10 round kit is #122000.


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Posted: 1/27/2012 4:19:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Originally Posted By ricksrifle:
Originally Posted By Bink67:
I've been thinking about getting one of these in the future. I live in NY though so the 12 round mag counts as a "Large capacity ammunition feeding device".

Do you think those mags could be easily permanently blocked to hold ten rounds?

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They are sold with either 10 or 12 round magazines with spares available for both. I think the S&W item number for the 10 round kit is #122000.


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Well that was pretty easy. I don't know why I didn't see that before.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 4:44:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bink67:
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Originally Posted By ricksrifle:
Originally Posted By Bink67:
I've been thinking about getting one of these in the future. I live in NY though so the 12 round mag counts as a "Large capacity ammunition feeding device".

Do you think those mags could be easily permanently blocked to hold ten rounds?

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They are sold with either 10 or 12 round magazines with spares available for both. I think the S&W item number for the 10 round kit is #122000.


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Well that was pretty easy. I don't know why I didn't see that before.


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Posted: 2/1/2012 12:33:26 AM EST
What did you pay for it? I noticed the MP22 when it came out but fell by thw wayside due to having a mosquito. Might get one with tax money. Should probably start looking at cans for them.

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Posted: 2/1/2012 4:04:21 AM EST
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Posted: 2/1/2012 7:27:33 AM EST
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What did you pay for it? I noticed the MP22 when it came out but fell by thw wayside due to having a mosquito. Might get one with tax money. Should probably start looking at cans for them.

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I got one on GB for $330 from a shop about an hour away.
Most prices I have seen are $350-$400.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 12:51:25 PM EST
Have you shot it anymore since the initial review? I was sold on the buckmark but then the SR22 came out and now I'm finding this gun and its looking really nice.

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Posted: 2/1/2012 12:52:15 PM EST
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Posted: 2/1/2012 1:07:47 PM EST
does it fit the same holsters as the centerfire version?
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Posted: 2/1/2012 1:20:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
does it fit the same holsters as the centerfire version?

According to Crossbreed holsters, their M&P holster will fit all full size M&P's. Waiting on my holster to be made, when It arrives I will be able to confirm or deny if they do.

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Posted: 2/2/2012 4:45:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
does it fit the same holsters as the centerfire version?


My 22 fits in the same holsters as my full size.
The only difference I have found is it is a little difficult to re-holster because the recoil spring is lighter on the 22. I also have all of my holsters set pretty tight for retention.
I just have to put my thumb on the back of the slide.
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Posted: 2/5/2012 7:01:20 AM EST
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Thanks for the nice review. While it sounds like this one may work out OK, I for one am very disappointed that Smith went this route. I would have much rather seen a conversion upper that worked on a standard frame. If I'm going to buy a gun like this as a training tool then I want it to have the same exact feel, controls and trigger as the centerfire gun it is mimicking. Otherwise what good is it?

How does the trigger in this gun compare feel wise (pull weight, break, reset) to a standard M&P trigger?
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Posted: 2/5/2012 8:00:07 AM EST
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Posted: 2/5/2012 6:00:45 PM EST
Who has these in stock? I've been looking for a while with no luck? I'm definitely getting one now.
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Posted: 2/6/2012 5:14:01 AM EST
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Who has these in stock? I've been looking for a while with no luck? I'm definitely getting one now.


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Posted: 2/10/2012 6:49:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
does it fit the same holsters as the centerfire version?


Like a glove. Just received my holster today.


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Posted: 2/10/2012 2:00:03 PM EST
ordered mine from grabagun.com for $353 shipped. Should be here tomorrow:D
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Posted: 2/10/2012 2:25:21 PM EST
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ordered mine from grabagun.com for $353 shipped. Should be here tomorrow:D


Buy a bunch of ammo for it. You will enjoy it very much

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Posted: 2/10/2012 5:54:51 PM EST
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Who has these in stock? I've been looking for a while with no luck? I'm definitely getting one now.


I bought from a FFL in Rio Rancho. It was his last. He might be able to get more. IM me if you want his info.

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Posted: 2/11/2012 3:17:27 PM EST
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ok figured it out...

got the safety removed. Took me awhile;)

I think i'm going to leave the magazine disconnect it seems a bit complicated.
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Great thread.

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Posted: 2/13/2012 3:29:07 PM EST
I took mine out last night. I ran a couple mag through it. Ran with a problem. I was using Rem Goldne bullet.

THe mosquito that I just got back from the factory is a different story...

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Posted: 2/13/2012 3:29:42 PM EST
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Posted: 2/13/2012 6:43:06 PM EST
TAG for more. I'm really debating what kinda 22 I want to get, and this really is jumping out at me for a trainer for my M&P9.

I've yet to find a bad word about these online, other than the uninformed HURRDURR UMAREX ITS GONNA SUCK.


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Posted: 2/13/2012 7:41:54 PM EST
fit and finish is very good and they fit my average (kinda XL) size hands like a glove. I removed the safety levers and bought 2 extra mags from greg cote llc (they got here in 2 days) for $28.95 each I think.

I will probably shoot it thursday.

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Posted: 2/13/2012 8:17:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
fit and finish is very good and they fit my average (kinda XL) size hands like a glove. I removed the safety levers and bought 2 extra mags from greg cote llc (they got here in 2 days) for $28.95 each I think.

I will probably shoot it thursday.


I agree. I got a chance to play with one at the funshop the other day, but I just wanted to do some more debating before I pulled the trigger.

Hopefully this thread will persuade me.


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Posted: 2/14/2012 8:08:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By htomeheb:

Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
fit and finish is very good and they fit my average (kinda XL) size hands like a glove. I removed the safety levers and bought 2 extra mags from greg cote llc (they got here in 2 days) for $28.95 each I think.

I will probably shoot it thursday.


I agree. I got a chance to play with one at the funshop the other day, but I just wanted to do some more debating before I pulled the trigger.

Hopefully this thread will persuade me.




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I think I'm going to paint my rear sight. It should look like the classic glock U when I'm done. Nail polish might be too thin so I may even glue a white sticker to it or something.
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I hated the stock rear sight because the notch was not low enough. Getting a good sight picture proved to be difficult. So I switched it out. Much better now.
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Posted: 2/14/2012 1:34:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
I hated the stock rear sight because the notch was not low enough. Getting a good sight picture proved to be difficult. So I switched it out. Much better now.

They fit normal M&P sights?
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Not much to add just got my 300 rounds all been good works even when it is cold, real cold.
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I bought an M&P 22 this evening based on this thread's recommendations.

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I bought an M&P 22 this evening based on this thread's recommendations.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 6:30:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Originally Posted By Buckeye67:
I bought an M&P 22 this evening based on this thread's recommendations.

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Can't wait to see the report. You will love it as the rest of us do


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Posted: 2/17/2012 8:09:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Heuristic:
Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Originally Posted By Buckeye67:
I bought an M&P 22 this evening based on this thread's recommendations.

Range report will follow.

ETA: Anyone have a good source for mags?


44Mag when in stock or order from Smith or online search

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I ordered 5 from 44mag and they got here in a week.
They are GTG.

Awesome! Thanks, y'all.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 9:22:47 AM EST
44mag was out of stock so I ordered from Greg cote llc. Very nice guy mags arrived FAST
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