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Posted: 4/3/2012 9:23:55 PM
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Rail mounted light...ICQB?
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Posted: 4/4/2012 1:51:22 PM
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Originally Posted By JSGlock34:


Rail mounted light...ICQB?



The "MARSOC: U.S. Marine Corps Special Operations Command" book p.107 has a pic of M-45 pistol with Surefire MR07 rail mount & X300 on it. The other M-45 pistol pic in the same page shown Caspian frame with Springfield slide.
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Posted: 4/5/2012 7:34:15 PM
Sorry if I'm asking a question that's already been answered, but I'm building a MEUSOC clone and the pistol needs refinishing. I want to do it myself, so I'm thinking of something like a Gun Kote finish. I know most real MEUSOCs will be beat to hell, but with that said, what would be the closest to the finish a new MEUSOC might have––matte black, gun metal blue, or something else?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted By Featheredmafia:
Sorry if I'm asking a question that's already been answered, but I'm building a MEUSOC clone and the pistol needs refinishing. I want to do it myself, so I'm thinking of something like a Gun Kote finish. I know most real MEUSOCs will be beat to hell, but with that said, what would be the closest to the finish a new MEUSOC might have––matte black, gun metal blue, or something else?

Thanks.


Traditional parkerized finish.
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Posted: 4/5/2012 9:59:52 PM
how much dose it cost to put one of these together
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Posted: 4/5/2012 10:38:20 PM
Originally Posted By mlin:
Originally Posted By JSGlock34:


Rail mounted light...ICQB?



The "MARSOC: U.S. Marine Corps Special Operations Command" book p.107 has a pic of M-45 pistol with Surefire MR07 rail mount & X300 on it. The other M-45 pistol pic in the same page shown Caspian frame with Springfield slide.


mlin, based on this would i be way off base to try to change/build my operator to an ICQB? honestly?
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:23:29 AM
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I personally like the way my MC Operator as is. If I were you I would no mod the Operator. You never know whether MC Operator will become the new M-45 pistol after the trial completed. Get a Caspian frame and Springfield slide would give you a perfect replica. Or just settle with Springfield Loaded and change out a few small parts would do too.
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thanks.
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Posted: 4/8/2012 1:09:32 AM
Is the Springfield operator MC a good starter build for one of these...
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Posted: 4/8/2012 11:24:29 AM
Originally Posted By DOG556:
Is the Springfield operator MC a good starter build for one of these...


I think most folks are starting with a Springfield Mil-Spec or Loaded to create a MEU(SOC) clone. The vast majority of pistols in service have standard dust covers (no rails).

That said, right now the Springfield MC Operator is one of the two pistols (the other being the Colt Rail Gun) that is competing for the M45 pistol contract with the USMC. This pistol will be used to equip MARSOC units. So it is possible that the MC Operator may become the USMC standard 1911.
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Posted: 4/8/2012 11:51:36 AM
OK, now lets see some more pics.
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Originally Posted By accurange:
that is perfection!!!!!!!! did you supply the sights?? or did the custom shop make them? and are the last 4 digits of the serial number stamped on top of the clark beavertail safety? please give us a range report!!!! that meusoc is sweet!!!!!!


Range report for my replica. Photo show16 rounds on the target @ 20 yards. Total 100 rounds Magtech 230gr FMJ through flawlessly using Wlison and Les Baer mags. Very smooth pistol and worth every penny I spent on the Springfield Custom build. The only compliant I have is the serrated front sight. No easy to see at low light condition. I will probably add bright orange paint on the front for faster target acquisition.

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Posted: 4/8/2012 7:20:35 PM
Nice shooting!

I'm not far behind you Mlin-



I'm still up in the air about FCS on mine. I like them
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I won't mind build another one with FCS too if I get all the parts needed.

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Where is the best place to find a springfield slide and a kings ambi safety?
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Posted: 4/9/2012 3:06:49 AM
Originally Posted By Clay54961:
how much dose it cost to put one of these together


This. I'm pretty interested myself. I'm going to try and get some insight from my brother who happens to be a MARSOC operator.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 7:49:21 AM
Originally Posted By ConKeeper:
Originally Posted By Clay54961:
how much dose it cost to put one of these together


This. I'm pretty interested myself. I'm going to try and get some insight from my brother who happens to be a MARSOC operator.


probably a whole lot cheaper for you than the rest of us!
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Posted: 4/9/2012 9:16:29 AM
Im a late bloomer to the 1911, but I've always been a fan of the TRP and professional . I think a good starting pistol for this project would be the MC Operator.
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Originally Posted By DOG556:
Im a late bloomer to the 1911, but I've always been a fan of the TRP and professional . I think a good starting pistol for this project would be the MC Operator.


The MEUSOC pistols do not have a railed frame.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 10:57:03 AM
Originally Posted By mlin:
I won't mind build another one with FCS too if I get all the parts needed.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/cxl17/real.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/cxl17/real2.jpg


Is the one on the right a Mil spec with added front sight serrations?

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Posted: 4/9/2012 12:22:45 PM
Originally Posted By ConKeeper:
Originally Posted By Clay54961:
how much dose it cost to put one of these together


This. I'm pretty interested myself. I'm going to try and get some insight from my brother who happens to be a MARSOC operator.


Haha, maybe! I doubt he would risk that career on swiping parts for me though.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 1:30:17 PM
Originally Posted By alias2:
Originally Posted By mlin:
I won't mind build another one with FCS too if I get all the parts needed.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/cxl17/real.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/cxl17/real2.jpg


Is the one on the right a Mil spec with added front sight serrations?



That one had USGI WWII frame and SA Milspec slide with classic slate serration. Springfield has been the supplier of slide for MEUSOC pistol since earlier day. Over that long period of time, you can see differnt variants of 1911 slides used. Front the older pre-Milspec slide without FCS to Milspec slide that has lower and flare ejector portion, and added on FCS, and to the Loaded style serrations in most recent variant of M45.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 10:08:14 AM
Just to clarify - and as someone who owns a Loaded-based clone and is working on a Milspec based clone -

Commercial Springfield Armory slides and pistols use a .38 Super style firing pin while the MEU(SOC) .45, and all drawings, specs, and parts lists associated call for a "standard" .45 firing pin.

As far as I know, with the possible exception of the very earliest MEU(SOC) .45s that might have used "straight" COTS Springfield slides (though, IIRC, earlier Springfields used .45 FPs as well), MEU(SOC) .45s use a firing pin configuration that would be very difficult to get in a commercial based Springfield Armory pistol unless you had it build from the ground up by the Custom Shop.

The earliest MEU(SOC) .45 manual that I've seen is dated 1994, though the configuration existed prior to that, the configuration was probably "solidified" around that time. For whoever commented on the fact that it's spec'ed to use '70's era IPSC parts - you're not far from right! The parts that were decided on and have not significantly changed since then were what were considered to be the highest quality "proven" parts twenty-odd years ago!

Only a very few seem to have been built with vertical serrations - as far as front cocking serrations go, MEU(SOC) .45s have been documented with none, with Springfield factory "classic" Milspec-style serrations, Loaded style serrations, as well as serrations cut by PWS which are usually cut shorter than factory serrations - they end before the slide meets the dustcover - unlike Springfield factory serrations.

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