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Posted: 12/27/2016 3:40:16 PM EDT
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I would call them they will refer you to a LE dealer in there network.. or email [email protected]
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Posted: 12/27/2016 7:40:57 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson also does L/E first responder discounts. The DW is the better gun IMO and you can more then likely get a Valor for same price after discount. If your got the coin, go this route. Just bought the Silverback. Incredible gun for the money. |
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Posted: 12/27/2016 9:49:03 PM EDT
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Have seen a couple SA Mil Specs in the local Classifieds for around $500, I have been tempted to snatch one up, I keep thinking to myself though to just put a little more into it and get the gun your really wanting.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 1:45:22 PM EDT
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I would call them they will refer you to a LE dealer in there network.. or email [email protected] I sent him an email, thanks for the info. Is Dan Wesson made by CZ? |
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Posted: 12/28/2016 1:47:46 PM EDT
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If your got the coin, go this route. Just bought the Silverback. Incredible gun for the money. Hell thats a good looking gun, it's either going to be the cheaper RIA or one of these higher end models for me. I seem to be the minority in this thread but I love the look of that Smith PC 1911. |
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Posted: 12/28/2016 1:48:02 PM EDT
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They are owned by CZ yes.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 5:01:35 PM EDT
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Which series is the Dan Wesson built on and can someone give me a rudimentary run down on them? I.e. 70, 80, etc.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 5:22:50 PM EDT
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I went with RIA Tactical for the ambi safety, im a lefty. Dropped in Ed brown trigger and short guide rod 18lb. spring was at $500. Couldnt be happier. Runs great.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 5:32:14 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson are all series 70 and hand fitted not just production line assembled.
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Posted: 12/28/2016 11:50:24 PM EDT
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I actually did this last year.
Used a Springfield mil spec 1911. And bought parts like new trigger, ambi safety, new front and rear sights, grips, back strap, and magwell. I bought the gun and upgrades with the intention of using it for IDPA cdp class. Great shooter with a super light trigger. |
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Posted: 12/29/2016 4:32:10 PM EDT
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Wish this Dan Wesson Heritage could be had without the damn ribbing on the slide top as it's exactly what I'd want minus that option. Unfortunately the only other gun that does what I want (minus the front strap checkering) is the Valor which is considerably more expensive. Will wait and see what they come back with for the first responder discount and weight the options between this, the S&W or the Dan Wesson.
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Posted: 12/29/2016 6:35:05 PM EDT
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Give Dan Wesson a call. They will make custom options for you.
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Posted: 12/29/2016 7:42:20 PM EDT
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Give Dan Wesson a call. They will make custom options for you. Good to know, thanks! |
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Posted: 12/29/2016 11:21:39 PM EDT
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Idk if you would be interested in this one on Addicts.
https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/dan-wesson-valor.32333/#post-455286 |
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Posted: 12/29/2016 11:37:15 PM EDT
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Idk if you would be interested in this one on Addicts. https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/dan-wesson-valor.32333/#post-455286 Thanks for looking out and posting the link. Still need to hear back from Wesson about their LE discount program and what that might bring the price of a new one down to. Sweet looking gun though... drool |
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Posted: 12/30/2016 7:55:31 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson also does L/E first responder discounts. The DW is the better gun IMO and you can more then likely get a Valor for same price after discount. Dude, you are enamored with DW... |
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Posted: 1/1/2017 3:26:23 PM EDT
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Sit down and list all the upgrades that you think you will want and then price them all out, I think that you will find it much cheaper to get them from the get go.
I made that mistake with my Springfield Mil-spec 1911. It is now a very nice pistol but still rattles when shaken. |
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Posted: 1/1/2017 3:51:45 PM EDT
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You guys are a bunch of crack dealers in here, more than willing to help a guy go as far down the 1911 rabbit hole as possible. My wallet will likely hate you and since I'm Dutch I might have to as well...
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Posted: 1/1/2017 6:43:05 PM EDT
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Dude, you are enamored with DW... It is a excellent 1911 for what you pay comparable to higher priced guns. Should I recommend something that I don't feel is a better gun would that make you feel better? |
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Posted: 1/3/2017 10:56:02 AM EDT
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What exactly do you have in mind for the final product?
I ask because years ago I bought a basic Colt model 70 re-issue with the same basic plan. I found the problem with that plan is, by the time you pay a reputable smith to make all the mods and refinish the gun (which will be needed depending on the mods made), it would be cheaper to just buy a gun that already comes with all (or at least 90%) of everything you want as opposed to having a base gun customized. If a basic 1911 with just a few drop in changes is what you are after, go for it (I'd start with an SA or Colt myself) but if you are wanting anything a little more advanced that will require metal work like adding a fitted beavertail safety or frontstrap checkering then in the long run it will be cheaper to save your money now and get something later that was built from the factory the way you want it (or at least close to it). |
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Posted: 1/3/2017 7:51:36 PM EDT
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What are the thoughts on SS vs the various blue/black finished 1911's?
After getting the LE discount sheet from Dan Wesson I may be following the advice in this thread and getting the Valor! Maybe... |
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Posted: 1/5/2017 2:14:44 PM EDT
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Thanks to the budget killing ARFcom enablers I've decided to get the Dan Wesson Valor, can anyone weigh in in the SS beadblast finish vs their more expensive flat black duty treatment?
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Posted: 1/5/2017 4:30:06 PM EDT
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Their duty treatment is basically a form of melonite it is one of if not the most durable finish out there. It does however have its down sides. Melonite can be effected by cleaning products like gunscrubber brake cleaners ect. It also surface hardens the steel so having machining done after the Duty Treatment has been done is hard to fine anyone to do it is extremely hard on tooling and smiths won't do it. So if you intend on doing any custom work after purchase I would get stainless if not I would go with Duty treatment.
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Posted: 1/5/2017 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Damn, that DW Specialist in all SS looks sweet ! A choice of 9mm or 45 ACP makes it even better.
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Posted: 1/5/2017 9:18:09 PM EDT
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It is a excellent 1911 for what you pay comparable to higher priced guns. Should I recommend something that I don't feel is a better gun would that make you feel better? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, you are enamored with DW... It is a excellent 1911 for what you pay comparable to higher priced guns. Should I recommend something that I don't feel is a better gun would that make you feel better? Include me in the enamored DW crowd. I have series 70 colt gold cup trophy, Delta Elite, Kimber and a couple of Norinco custom builds in 1911. Just got the DW Silverback in 10MM for Christmas. I am definitely a DW fan now. I like my others just fine with no regrets as they all serve a purpose. The DW is just a dam fine gun. Wont be my last one either. I'm already looking to sell a few things off that are just taking up space to fund another. |
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Posted: 1/6/2017 10:19:08 PM EDT
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Thanks to everyone in this thread for all the advice and info. I've decided to get the DW Valor .45 in black and don't plan any mods as it will have everything I've ever wanted in a 1911. The money this site has cost me is staggering. Ya-ya I know it's actually saving me money, don't start with the creative math and how it works, I'm an expert at it and why I've yet again obliterated a budget that might as well not have existed to begin with. Bastards...
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Posted: 1/6/2017 10:19:47 PM EDT
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Wonder how long the wait is for these things...
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Posted: 1/6/2017 10:40:22 PM EDT
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Thanks to everyone in this thread for all the advice and info. I've decided to get the DW Valor .45 in black and don't plan any mods as it will have everything I've ever wanted in a 1911. The money this site has cost me is staggering. Ya-ya I know it's actually saving me money, don't start with the creative math and how it works, I'm an expert at it and why I've yet again obliterated a budget that might as well not have existed to begin with. Bastards... Good choice
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Posted: 1/6/2017 11:05:36 PM EDT
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Springfield armory. mil spec base model. I have a range officer that I've done a lot of work to, but I've always wanted a mil spec to slowly customize. It's a stupid thing to be hung up on, but I really want an Ed Brown memory groove grip safety. After ditching all the MIM on my RO (I know, not necessary), replacing the sights, and doing a trigger job, I do have to agree that it's always cheaper to get what you want the first time. However, I still really want to tinker with a mil spec. It's like my ARs, it's not "mine" if it's identical to all the other pistols in the store. That being said, a specialist is very high on my list. I would have a hard time not customizing it, but there really isn't much you could justify doing to it. Also, it's cheaper in the long run, but sometimes it's easier to spend $500 today and do upgrades as you can afford them. You can play with several mil specs in the store until you know you've got a tight fitting slide and frame and go from there. A range officer would also be a good starting point, but you're a little restricted on sights, and Ed brown grip safeties won't fit it, although there are several grip safeties you can still choose from. |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 10:22:55 PM EDT
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Just to update this thread I got the DW Valor in black and I've gotta tell ya, although I haven't shot it yet the fit and feel of this thing is phenomenal. The sound it makes when you drop the slide, or more importantly the sound it doesn't make, is unreal. Quality piece of gear especially at the LE discount rate. Thanks to everyone in this thread who gave advice, recommended different models and especially for pointing out the DW did LE discounts, I'm a fire fighter by the way so the discount includes us, and CZ's line up!
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Posted: 3/2/2017 12:33:16 AM EDT
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Congrats on the DW. It is a fine pistol that is juuuuust on the north side of $500, so you did well.
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Posted: 3/2/2017 6:18:01 AM EDT
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Sit down and list all the upgrades that you think you will want and then price them all out, I think that you will find it much cheaper to get them from the get go. I made that mistake with my Springfield Mil-spec 1911. It is now a very nice pistol but still rattles when shaken. I'm not sure why that ever became a metric of measuring quality |
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Posted: 3/2/2017 6:22:57 AM EDT
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Just to update this thread I got the DW Valor in black and I've gotta tell ya, although I haven't shot it yet the fit and feel of this thing is phenomenal. The sound it makes when you drop the slide, or more importantly the sound it doesn't make, is unreal. Quality piece of gear especially at the LE discount rate. Thanks to everyone in this thread who gave advice, recommended different models and especially for pointing out the DW did LE discounts, I'm a fire fighter by the way so the discount includes us, and CZ's line up! Are you dropping the slide on an empty chamber? |
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Posted: 3/2/2017 4:29:20 PM EDT
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Congrats on the DW. It is a fine pistol that is juuuuust on the north side of $500, so you did well. Yes it is, this place has cost me more money than I care to contemplate... |
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Posted: 3/2/2017 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Are you dropping the slide on an empty chamber? Yes I did and have seen this debated a time or two, should it be avoided? |
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Posted: 3/2/2017 5:25:59 PM EDT
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Looking to get a non-safe queen 1911 but don't want to spend a ton of money. Would rather get a solid 1911 that'll shoot well out of the box but can be upgraded over time to my liking. Is there a brand/model that is a stand out for something like this? Thanks for any advice! I have a Ruger, Magnum Research, and Taurus. All Gtg! |
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Posted: 3/2/2017 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Yes I did and have seen this debated a time or two, should it be avoided? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you dropping the slide on an empty chamber? Yes I did and have seen this debated a time or two, should it be avoided? Hopefully someone more articulate than me can explain the reasons better than me but yes. It should be avoided. I don't think dropping it a couple times by accident is a big deal, just the habitual practice of it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 1:19:18 PM EDT
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Hopefully someone more articulate than me can explain the reasons better than me but yes. It should be avoided. I don't think dropping it a couple times by accident is a big deal, just the habitual practice of it. The fear is that you're putting undue stress on the hammer/sear engagement and I guess potentially the slide to barrel fit. People will say it will ruin your trigger job or destroy your sear nose. IMO the "never drop your slide on an empty chamber" is blowing it out of proportion. I don't do it for the same reason I don't slam my car door shut as hard as I can when I get in my vehicle. There's just no reason to. On the other hand if I did have a reason to I wouldn't freak out about doing it. That's probably clear as mud but there you have it :P |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 2:11:05 PM EDT
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This started out as a basic mil-spec Springfield Armory It was my 1990's IPSC blaster. I hand checkered the front strap. blended the beavertail grip safety fitted the Ed Brown ambi thumb safety Had Gunsmith Ken Hallock mill and install the BOMAR sight. sent the whole lower off to http://www.mahovskysmetalife.com/Metalife%20Finish%20Page%202.htm I drool every time I see this beauty. Classic. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 2:12:38 PM EDT
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I worry more about the barrel feet than I do about the hammer/sear engagement when dropping the slide on an empty chamber. It isn't anything to worry about if it is something you only rarely do.
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Posted: 3/3/2017 3:21:49 PM EDT
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Yes I did and have seen this debated a time or two, should it be avoided? Springfield actually warns against in the owners manual of all of their 1911's so yea it's a thing to avoid. |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 11:40:04 PM EDT
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Dan Wesson Heritage at a minimum.
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Posted: 3/5/2017 3:39:34 PM EDT
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Personally, I wouldn't buy either of those. Don't like fiber optic sights. Don't like adjustable sights on combat pistols. And... WTF are those slots cut in that S&W slide? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for all the info guys! It seems I've narrowed it down to price wise either going semi full retard on a S&W SW1911PC or keeping it well appointed but cheap with a RIA Rock Ultra. https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_main/public/firearms/images/170343_01_lg_1.jpg?itok=QRT-GXca http://armscor.com/images/products/_product_gallery_large/51486-1911-A1_ROCK_Ultra_FS_45ACP_leftangled.jpg Personally, I wouldn't buy either of those. Don't like fiber optic sights. Don't like adjustable sights on combat pistols. And... WTF are those slots cut in that S&W slide? Agreed! ETA: I see you went with the DW Valor... Nice piece and good for getting all you want on it from the start. |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 3:42:37 PM EDT
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Give Dan Wesson a call. They will make custom options for you. This! And being owned/ran by CZ is a good thing OP... |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 6:47:16 PM EDT
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Which series is the Dan Wesson built on and can someone give me a rudimentary run down on them? I.e. 70, 80, etc. 70. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 11:28:38 PM EDT
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Well that was short lived. The gun was delivered with the rear sight drifted a considerable ways off too the left, even with the screw loosened it would not drift back over so the slide had to be boxed up and sent back to them for warranty work already and it hasn't even been fired. ugh, they use blue loctite on the screw on he said red loctite on the base of the sight, why the hell would you do that if you want to move it ever again?
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Posted: 3/26/2017 4:31:18 PM EDT
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Grabagun has a great deal on a Colt Government SS 45, $650 and $6 shipping. I just ordered my first 1911 from them. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 5:09:22 PM EDT
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Well that was short lived. The gun was delivered with the rear sight drifted a considerable ways off too the left, even with the screw loosened it would not drift back over so the slide had to be boxed up and sent back to them for warranty work already and it hasn't even been fired. ugh, they use blue loctite on the screw on he said red loctite on the base of the sight, why the hell would you do that if you want to move it ever again? 
The sights on the DW probably worked fine for the Czech factory rat test-firing it from 15-feet, but Europeans generally don't concern themselves with re-zeroing the sights on a pistol or a rifle once it leaves the factory, or they've been adjusted before a hunt or a shooting event by a gunsmith. Euro shooters just "trust" it was done properly and believe the gun will hit to POA from 10-feet to 200-yds, or whatever. If it doesn't, they just assume any miss of the target was shooter-induced. 
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Posted: 3/27/2017 3:23:32 PM EDT
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Well that was short lived. The gun was delivered with the rear sight drifted a considerable ways off too the left, even with the screw loosened it would not drift back over so the slide had to be boxed up and sent back to them for warranty work already and it hasn't even been fired. ugh, they use blue loctite on the screw on he said red loctite on the base of the sight, why the hell would you do that if you want to move it ever again? |
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