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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:10:27 PM EDT
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Uh. Colt Commander. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:18:58 PM EDT
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Kimber.
I think it would be the Custom Carry II. And there might be some other choices in Kimber. And yeah, you got Colt. Dan Wesson makes one I think. Sig... actually, I think you're more likely to try and figure out who doesn't. I'm not sure springy makes one. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:25:44 PM EDT
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Range officer champion?
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:54:36 PM EDT
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Uh. Colt Commander. The one I handled with a blued finish was alloy framed. I think the stainless finish is the only all steel one. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 2:02:20 PM EDT
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Have you checked Springfield or Dan Wesson? I thought they both made them. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 2:13:50 PM EDT
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Have you checked Springfield or Dan Wesson? I thought they both made them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Have you checked Springfield or Dan Wesson? I thought they both made them. I checked Springfield and didn't see anything. DW isn't really in the cards right now. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 2:16:55 PM EDT
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I checked Springfield and didn't see anything. DW isn't really in the cards right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Have you checked Springfield or Dan Wesson? I thought they both made them. I checked Springfield and didn't see anything. DW isn't really in the cards right now. What about Rock Island Armory? There are a ton of 1911 manufacturers out there....there has to be someone that makes one. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 4:36:50 PM EDT
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Colt 1991a1 Commander, all steel.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 6:03:50 PM EDT
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Ruger makes an all steel Commander
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Posted: 10/18/2016 7:53:22 PM EDT
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I just traded off a SA GI Champion. All steel. If you can find one.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 8:08:24 PM EDT
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Springfield makes several all steel champions. Both in stainless and in blued.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 8:13:06 PM EDT
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You aren't looking hard enough. Did colt change something because unless it said lightweight it was a steel frame.
Armscor/Rock Island Kimber Springfield Colt Para Pretty sure Remington and Smith too. If you can't find any I can go find part numbers but if you look you will find plenty. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 8:16:16 PM EDT
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The one I handled with a blued finish was alloy framed. I think the stainless finish is the only all steel one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Uh. Colt Commander. The one I handled with a blued finish was alloy framed. I think the stainless finish is the only all steel one. Absolutely not accurate. http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Pistols/1991-Series |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 8:42:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2016 8:49:37 PM EDT
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Ruger makes an all steel Commander An excellent one too...!! |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:48:17 PM EDT
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I have the stainless 1991 and love it.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:37:02 PM EDT
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Seriously weird, I am wanting a decent alloy frame commander and everything that comes up for sale in my area is steel.
Colt Commander or "Combat Commander" depending on vintage. Most Ruger Commanders (the lightweight ones just came out a couple months ago) Kimber Pro HD (HD = Heavy Duty = steel frame) |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:44:50 PM EDT
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Absolutely not accurate. http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Pistols/1991-Series Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I have odd taste, seems like no one makes an all steel 4" 1911. Anyone have suggestions? I can't seem to find any. Uh. Colt Commander. The one I handled with a blued finish was alloy framed. I think the stainless finish is the only all steel one. Absolutely not accurate. http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Pistols/1991-Series Interesting. The only one so far I've ever seen that's all steel in my area was a Sig Emperor Scorpion. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:44:56 AM EDT
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Sig Sauer, traditional 1911, lots of features.
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/1911-traditional-compact-stainless.aspx I've been considering one of these myself. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 10:03:29 AM EDT
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Did Colt stop making the Combat Commander?
 That's the all steel 1911 that I had back in the late 1990's. I always hated aluminum pistols, like I hate plastic ones now. I've moved up from Colts to Kimbers and now to DW 1911's, so I don't know if Colt still makes the Combat Commanders now. I know that Kimber makes all steel Commander sized pistols in the Pro Carry series.
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Posted: 10/19/2016 10:10:19 AM EDT
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Seriously weird, I am wanting a decent alloy frame commander and everything that comes up for sale in my area is steel. Colt Commander or "Combat Commander" depending on vintage. Most Ruger Commanders (the lightweight ones just came out a couple months ago) Kimber Pro HD (HD = Heavy Duty = steel frame) Not necessarily. I have owned the Kimber Pro Carry (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 and the Kimber Eclipse (no HD) blackened, all stainless steel 1911 and more recently the Kimber Stainless Pro Raptor (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 pistol. The HD designation doesn't refer to steel frame because a lot of their other 1911 pistols have steel frames without the HD designation. . |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:21:15 AM EDT
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Ruger makes an all steel Commander An excellent one too...!! I can vouch for that!! |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:28:57 AM EDT
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Did Colt stop making the Combat Commander? That's the all steel 1911 that I had back in the late 1990's. I always hated aluminum pistols, like I hate plastic ones now. I've moved up from Colts to Kimbers and now to DW 1911's, so I don't know if Colt still makes the Combat Commanders now. I know that Kimber makes all steel Commander sized pistols in the Pro Carry series.I think they are just rollmarked "Commander", where the aluminum framed guns are marked "Lightweight Commander" now. They make each model in batches, I'm told, so don't think they have necessarily discontinued something if you can't find any locally. Personally I'd rather have a Lightweight Government than a Combat Commander. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 12:28:06 PM EDT
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Not necessarily. I have owned the Kimber Pro Carry (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 and the Kimber Eclipse (no HD) blackened, all stainless steel 1911 and more recently the Kimber Stainless Pro Raptor (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 pistol. The HD designation doesn't refer to steel frame because a lot of their other 1911 pistols have steel frames without the HD designation. . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously weird, I am wanting a decent alloy frame commander and everything that comes up for sale in my area is steel. Colt Commander or "Combat Commander" depending on vintage. Most Ruger Commanders (the lightweight ones just came out a couple months ago) Kimber Pro HD (HD = Heavy Duty = steel frame) Not necessarily. I have owned the Kimber Pro Carry (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 and the Kimber Eclipse (no HD) blackened, all stainless steel 1911 and more recently the Kimber Stainless Pro Raptor (no HD) all stainless steel 1911 pistol. The HD designation doesn't refer to steel frame because a lot of their other 1911 pistols have steel frames without the HD designation. . No he is correct. The HD became a thing because those models were originally introduced with aluminum frames so the HD allowed you to differentiate steel and aluminum in the models where both were options. Not all models carry the HD because they were already steel frame guns to begin with. He was pointing out that particular model as a example. Unless they changed something recently all HD models are steel frames only. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 3:32:49 PM EDT
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Not sure if you wanted 9mm or not:
http://armscor.com/firearms/tcm-series/tcm-rock-standard-ms-hc-combo-22tcm-9mm/ Looks like you might have even more choices if you want to go with an officer frame. It sounds like budget is a concern too, eh? I think this one is all steel, .45 and 4.25" barrel, normal height frame. Very reasonably priced and RIA has had a pretty good rep for lower budget 1911's. http://armscor.com/firearms/rock-series/rock-standard-ms-45acp/ |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 10:03:39 PM EDT
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Wilson, Baer, Brown, Nighthawk, Guncrafter, Springfield, Colt, Rock Island, Ruger, Dan Wesson, Kimber, STI, who doesn't make a 4-4.25" all steel 1911?
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:17:35 PM EDT
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Just about all of the major manufacturers and all of the custom builders offer a 4/4.25" steel commander. I think the question you're asking is who makes one within your budget constraints? If so, what is your budget?
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:45:39 PM EDT
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Just about all of the major manufacturers and all of the custom builders offer a 4/4.25" steel commander. I think the question you're asking is who makes one within your budget constraints? If so, what is your budget? That might be a better way to ask it. About 1K. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:30:34 PM EDT
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You can't get a wesson for a grand?
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Posted: 10/21/2016 10:12:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:17:16 PM EDT
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Not sure if you wanted 9mm or not: http://armscor.com/firearms/tcm-series/tcm-rock-standard-ms-hc-combo-22tcm-9mm/ Looks like you might have even more choices if you want to go with an officer frame. It sounds like budget is a concern too, eh? I think this one is all steel, .45 and 4.25" barrel, normal height frame. Very reasonably priced and RIA has had a pretty good rep for lower budget 1911's. http://armscor.com/firearms/rock-series/rock-standard-ms-45acp/ Have one of these waiting on me to pick up when I get back home to Wyoming. 
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Posted: 10/22/2016 9:14:11 AM EDT
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 10:54:27 AM EDT
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. More info that would have been helpful at the beginning. What exactly are you looking for and what do you not want? Which companies have you looked through? So far we've got 1911 commander, steel frame, $1000 budget, no smith and wesson. Springfield Range Operator Champion Kimber Pro Carry HD II Pro TLE II Stainless Pro TLE II You can even get the Pro TLE RL II TFS all tactical railed up and ready to be quiet Just about anything Armscor makes is in your price range. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 2:23:41 PM EDT
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 3:54:55 PM EDT
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Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. 
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:17:46 PM EDT
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Used to be, when I was buying/carrying Colts, the "Commander" was an aluminum frame gun and the "Combat Commander" was a steel framed gun.
My Combat Commander is steel framed (and almost 40 years old). |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 4:26:22 PM EDT
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Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png Locally someone sold a Valor for about $1095 after sitting on the board for a week with no bites, and they still have a PM-9 up for around the same amount. So, I'd say it's not unreasonable to say you could get a DW for a grand. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 11:41:14 PM EDT
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Locally someone sold a Valor for about $1095 after sitting on the board for a week with no bites, and they still have a PM-9 up for around the same amount. So, I'd say it's not unreasonable to say you could get a DW for a grand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png Locally someone sold a Valor for about $1095 after sitting on the board for a week with no bites, and they still have a PM-9 up for around the same amount. So, I'd say it's not unreasonable to say you could get a DW for a grand. That would definitely be a good choice. I'm thinking. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 3:31:26 AM EDT
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Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png To be fair there is no way to know if Wesson meant Smith and Wesson or Dan Wesson. If the full name was used there would have been no question. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 4:21:16 PM EDT
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To be fair there is no way to know if Wesson meant Smith and Wesson or Dan Wesson. If the full name was used there would have been no question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can't get a wesson for a grand? I don't do fish scales. Neither does Wesson, so you have that going for you, which is nice. Yeah, this is starting to get irritating. What in the heck is he talking about? I don't know how low you can get a Wesson for, but I didn't think they had "fish scales" on them. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe you CAN'T get a wesson for a grand. I wasn't sure or not. http://cdn.cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dan-Wesson-Commander-Classic-Bobtail-500x333.png To be fair there is no way to know if Wesson meant Smith and Wesson or Dan Wesson. If the full name was used there would have been no question. AAaaaaaaaaah. I thought maybe I was missing something. I should've been more clear. I forgot that Smith and Wesson uses fish scales for some of their guns. I don't know how many models they do that on though...... |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:36:06 PM EDT
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AAaaaaaaaaah. I thought maybe I was missing something. I should've been more clear. I forgot that Smith and Wesson uses fish scales for some of their guns. I don't know how many models they do that on though...... Damn near all of them |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:05:10 PM EDT
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Those goofy guys.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:40:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2016 2:50:42 PM EDT
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I've got the steel Ruger CMD commander it's a nice pistol for the price, would buy another.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 4:41:14 PM EDT
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I love my DW.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 6:38:27 PM EDT
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Ruger "Night Watchman" if you want one in black. It will be my next 1911
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Posted: 11/17/2016 2:26:01 AM EDT
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You can pick one of these up pretty inexpensively, used, with very little use on them. Some don't care for Series 80 pistols. I have a few 70's, pre 70's and 80's. No issues with any of them.
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Posted: 11/18/2016 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Ruger "Night Watchman" if you want one in black. It will be my next 1911 That's what I got, like the night sights Ruger Talo CMD |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 4:25:52 AM EDT
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Dan Wesson VBOB or go home.
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Posted: 11/19/2016 5:17:55 AM EDT
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_21_141/products_id/36335/Colt+O4691+1991+Series+7+1+45ACP+4.25%22
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_21_141/products_id/36433/Colt+O4091U+1991+Series+7+1+45ACP+4.25%22 Bud's still has some of the 1991 Colt Commanders in stock. If Colt's web site is correct, this will be the last of these. |
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