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Link Posted: 4/11/2016 10:35:10 AM EDT
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This but a caveat...get the Harrison fixed sights or go with the Long Beach operator.  Bull barrel vs traditional bushing.  I think the Long beach would be better for duty.  IMHO  Top gun is mine.  


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Link Posted: 4/11/2016 2:51:12 PM EDT
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My experiences with the TRP makes me not consider anything else in that price range.
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I don't suppose I could encourage you to expand slightly??


2 Defoor classes

Countless (possibly tens of) thousands of rounds.

Very little issues. None of the issues would have brought the gun to a unfiring state either.

Its good to go.

I carried it daily for years, it now has a storm lake threaded barrel in it, and its my suppressed gun. It never gets taken care of and keeps going. Cleaned and lubed, dirty and dry from suppressed fire, it doesnt care.

In the ~1500 range it is my go to 1911

This sentimate will be echoed by others here as well. But both guns you list are quality pieces. Im partial to springfield as I own a few of their guns


What experience with the dan wesson do you have that you think the trp is better?


My experiences with the TRP makes me not consider anything else in that price range.


Have you ever fired a dan wesson?

If I was to buy a 1911 today it would be a springfield as they have offerings inmy price range. None of the springfields ive owned(2 separate guns both were awesomely accurate and reliable) or shot, including a trp, do not shoot  as well as the 2 dan wessons Ive fired
Link Posted: 4/11/2016 3:04:39 PM EDT
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As it sits currently I bet theres 400 rounds of suppressed fire through it. I shoot the can wet as well.

Guarantee you I could pick it up right now and blast 500 rounds through it without an issue. Suppressed, not suppressed, whatever. That gun runs no matter what, even 10 round mags without issue.

Call me crazy, but the gun Im carrying right now has about 500 rounds down the pipe without cleaning. Not worried.

The TRP

<a href="http://s301.photobucket.com/user/cclement45/media/20151011_161300_zpspyrsgn8r.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/20151011_161300_zpspyrsgn8r.jpg</a>

The carry gun

<a href="http://s301.photobucket.com/user/cclement45/media/2015-09-20%2017.10.47_zpsmrjggejp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/2015-09-20%2017.10.47_zpsmrjggejp.jpg</a>
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I don't suppose I could encourage you to expand slightly??


2 Defoor classes

Countless (possibly tens of) thousands of rounds.

Very little issues. None of the issues would have brought the gun to a unfiring state either.

Its good to go.

I carried it daily for years, it now has a storm lake threaded barrel in it, and its my suppressed gun. It never gets taken care of and keeps going. Cleaned and lubed, dirty and dry from suppressed fire, it doesnt care.

In the ~1500 range it is my go to 1911


This sentimate will be echoed by others here as well. But both guns you list are quality pieces. Im partial to springfield as I own a few of their guns


Am I reading this correctly?

You don't clean or take care of your 1911 pistol and it's also your "go to" gun?

Your choice, but I think that's crazy.

I keep the "go to" gun clean, lubed and ready to go at all times.  


As it sits currently I bet theres 400 rounds of suppressed fire through it. I shoot the can wet as well.

Guarantee you I could pick it up right now and blast 500 rounds through it without an issue. Suppressed, not suppressed, whatever. That gun runs no matter what, even 10 round mags without issue.

Call me crazy, but the gun Im carrying right now has about 500 rounds down the pipe without cleaning. Not worried.

The TRP

<a href="http://s301.photobucket.com/user/cclement45/media/20151011_161300_zpspyrsgn8r.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/20151011_161300_zpspyrsgn8r.jpg</a>

The carry gun

<a href="http://s301.photobucket.com/user/cclement45/media/2015-09-20%2017.10.47_zpsmrjggejp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/cclement45/2015-09-20%2017.10.47_zpsmrjggejp.jpg</a>


My g19 has thousands of rounds through it with only a few malfunctions related to out of spec ammo (tula brassmax ammo loaded to long) Clean or not I wont guarantee it will go 500 rounds without a stoppage. Its a machine it can go tits up without warning. An important part of cleaning is preventative maintenance by inspecting parts for abnormal wear.

Pushing a range gun to see its limits is fun imo. But doing the same with your lifeline is

eta, wait is  the trp just a range/suppressor host gun?

Whats the second gun? It looks relatively clean but im on my phone
Link Posted: 4/11/2016 3:20:18 PM EDT
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My g19 has thousands of rounds through it with only a few malfunctions related to out of spec ammo (tula brassmax ammo loaded to long) Clean or not I wont guarantee it will go 500 rounds without a stoppage. Its a machine it can go tits up without warning. An important part of cleaning is preventative maintenance by inspecting parts for abnormal wear.

Pushing a range gun to see its limits is fun imo. But doing the same with your lifeline is

eta, wait is  the trp just a range/suppressor host gun?

Whats the second gun? It looks relatively clean but im on my phone
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The TRP is mainly a suppressed gun, although Id throw it in my holster witout hesitation right now and sometimes do if I want to roll around with a can on me.

My carry gun is a Springfield Professional model.

Trust me Ive put many thousands of rounds through 1911 type guns. I have no problem carrying one of my 1911s with several hundred rounds down the pipe. Ive been told how my gun would fail at high round count classes, which Im still waiting for that to happen. The 1911 platform has been most reliable handgun platform Ive used, and yes I own a glock as well.

I dont baby my 1911s. If it wont run dirty, I dont want it.

And again no I have not used a Dan Wesson build as I simply see no reason going for another blaster in that price range other than the TRP. The TRP has been hands down the most reliable 1911 I have ever owned and I have owned several, from cheap production guns, to semi custom builds in the 3k range. This is however my personal bias for springer products, which the only reason I have a bias is due to how well theyve worked for me
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:12:43 PM EDT
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I'd get a long beach operator.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-loaded-45-acp/#PX9105LLP
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:34:46 PM EDT
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You will not die carrying a 1911 when your life is o the line. You have the same amount of chances dying carrying a G19 too.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 2:04:38 PM EDT
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I have three pistols, all firearms are a tool for a job, for me it goes something like this.

LCP = Can carry regardless of clothing and since I'm often restricted by dress cloths, it gets carried a lot. And it's a damn bit better than a my fist or neck knife. I have both ISWB and wallet holsters.
Glock 30S = short range self defense pistol, I conceal it ISWB easily in any normal casual cloths.
1911A1 Range Officer = Range pistol that's a tack driver. At 35yards with this pistol bone stock I can put two 7 round magazines +1 into the head of a human sized silhouette.

If I wanted a pistol I could defend myself with at distance, the Range Officer would be my go to. And I did carry it for almost two years before going to the Glock 30S as my carry piece. I never felt under gunned with it as with most all semi-auto hand guns, shot placement is more important. 33 round magazines don't mean shit if you're not hitting your target. I recall reading some words of wisdom from some old famous lawmen from the 1800's that survived their fair share of shoot outs. They all had one thing in common, mentioning's of taking their time (relatively I'm sure) and aimed their sights well before pulling the trigger.

I went with the Glock 30S over the 1911 for my non-dress clothes carry pistol after considering the likelihood of particular scenario's I might need to defend myself with a firearm. Mass shootings, for me, aren't that high on the list. So I figured give up some accuracy for less weight (though thicker) and higher capacity was an acceptable trade off for the much more likely shorter self defense engagement distance I may never encounter.

If you're most concerned about accuracy and want the full effect of .45ACP, a full size or hell even long slide 1911 is not a bad choice, and mines been 100% reliable, and hell it feeds shit that would give my Glock nightmares.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:51:32 PM EDT
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Trust me Ive put many thousands of rounds through 1911 type guns. I have no problem carrying one of my 1911s with several hundred rounds down the pipe. Ive been told how my gun would fail at high round count classes, which Im still waiting for that to happen. The 1911 platform has been most reliable handgun platform Ive used, and yes I own a glock as well.

I dont baby my 1911s. If it wont run dirty, I dont want it.
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My experience is pretty similar to yours. The two platforms I've done the most shooting with in my life are 1911's and Glocks.  My first pistols were 1911's and back then it was just a given that you'd send them to the gunsmith for a reliability/carry job.  The TRP IMO is about the best value out there in the 1911 world.  My sample size of 2 have both been 100% reliable for many thousands of rounds.  I swing by the range all the time, shoot a couple of hundred rounds, and reholster and carry on.  I haven't kept an accurate count but I'm sure I've gone near 1000 rounds without a cleaning on the TRP and still 0 malfunctions.  So I'd say I'm pretty confident that my TRP's will be able to get through my 15 round EDC loadout if called upon without issue.

ETA :  I scanned through the thread and it looks like nobody has linked this excellent article yet, so here it is: http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Choosing-a-1911-for-Duty-Use.html



Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:00:29 PM EDT
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The TRP is mainly a suppressed gun, although Id throw it in my holster witout hesitation right now and sometimes do if I want to roll around with a can on me.

My carry gun is a Springfield Professional model.

Trust me Ive put many thousands of rounds through 1911 type guns. I have no problem carrying one of my 1911s with several hundred rounds down the pipe. Ive been told how my gun would fail at high round count classes, which Im still waiting for that to happen. The 1911 platform has been most reliable handgun platform Ive used, and yes I own a glock as well.

I dont baby my 1911s. If it wont run dirty, I dont want it.

And again no I have not used a Dan Wesson build as I simply see no reason going for another blaster in that price range other than the TRP. The TRP has been hands down the most reliable 1911 I have ever owned and I have owned several, from cheap production guns, to semi custom builds in the 3k range. This is however my personal bias for springer products, which the only reason I have a bias is due to how well theyve worked for me
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My g19 has thousands of rounds through it with only a few malfunctions related to out of spec ammo (tula brassmax ammo loaded to long) Clean or not I wont guarantee it will go 500 rounds without a stoppage. Its a machine it can go tits up without warning. An important part of cleaning is preventative maintenance by inspecting parts for abnormal wear.

Pushing a range gun to see its limits is fun imo. But doing the same with your lifeline is

eta, wait is  the trp just a range/suppressor host gun?

Whats the second gun? It looks relatively clean but im on my phone


The TRP is mainly a suppressed gun, although Id throw it in my holster witout hesitation right now and sometimes do if I want to roll around with a can on me.

My carry gun is a Springfield Professional model.

Trust me Ive put many thousands of rounds through 1911 type guns. I have no problem carrying one of my 1911s with several hundred rounds down the pipe. Ive been told how my gun would fail at high round count classes, which Im still waiting for that to happen. The 1911 platform has been most reliable handgun platform Ive used, and yes I own a glock as well.

I dont baby my 1911s. If it wont run dirty, I dont want it.

And again no I have not used a Dan Wesson build as I simply see no reason going for another blaster in that price range other than the TRP. The TRP has been hands down the most reliable 1911 I have ever owned and I have owned several, from cheap production guns, to semi custom builds in the 3k range. This is however my personal bias for springer products, which the only reason I have a bias is due to how well theyve worked for me


I have a springfield bias also. I wasn't trying to discredit youropinion, just validate it. Since you were recommending the trp over the dw I wanted to know if it was because of a great experience with a trp or a bad experience with a dw.
Link Posted: 4/27/2016 8:00:04 PM EDT
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My experience is pretty similar to yours. The two platforms I've done the most shooting with in my life are 1911's and Glocks.  My first pistols were 1911's and back then it was just a given that you'd send them to the gunsmith for a reliability/carry job.  The TRP IMO is about the best value out there in the 1911 world.  My sample size of 2 have both been 100% reliable for many thousands of rounds.  I swing by the range all the time, shoot a couple of hundred rounds, and reholster and carry on.  I haven't kept an accurate count but I'm sure I've gone near 1000 rounds without a cleaning on the TRP and still 0 malfunctions.  So I'd say I'm pretty confident that my TRP's will be able to get through my 15 round EDC loadout if called upon without issue.

ETA :  I scanned through the thread and it looks like nobody has linked this excellent article yet, so here it is: http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Choosing-a-1911-for-Duty-Use.html



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Trust me Ive put many thousands of rounds through 1911 type guns. I have no problem carrying one of my 1911s with several hundred rounds down the pipe. Ive been told how my gun would fail at high round count classes, which Im still waiting for that to happen. The 1911 platform has been most reliable handgun platform Ive used, and yes I own a glock as well.

I dont baby my 1911s. If it wont run dirty, I dont want it.


My experience is pretty similar to yours. The two platforms I've done the most shooting with in my life are 1911's and Glocks.  My first pistols were 1911's and back then it was just a given that you'd send them to the gunsmith for a reliability/carry job.  The TRP IMO is about the best value out there in the 1911 world.  My sample size of 2 have both been 100% reliable for many thousands of rounds.  I swing by the range all the time, shoot a couple of hundred rounds, and reholster and carry on.  I haven't kept an accurate count but I'm sure I've gone near 1000 rounds without a cleaning on the TRP and still 0 malfunctions.  So I'd say I'm pretty confident that my TRP's will be able to get through my 15 round EDC loadout if called upon without issue.

ETA :  I scanned through the thread and it looks like nobody has linked this excellent article yet, so here it is: http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Choosing-a-1911-for-Duty-Use.html





Thanks for the link.
Link Posted: 4/28/2016 2:34:08 PM EDT
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I have a non-railed TRP and love it. Been wanting to get a 9mm 1911 for over a year now and just ordered a Specialist in 9mil.  Been wanting to try a DW. Considered STIs, DW Valor, and SA Combat Operator Lipseys edition in 9mm.   So many great options in this price range, but budget only goes so far   I have a feeling I may start saving up for a Valor commander next.
I don't know that I'll ever buy another 1911 in .45 - seems like 9mm trend has finally really started to proliferate in the 1911 segment w/ more and more options coming out, which is great for those who like the perceived advantages of the 9.
Link Posted: 4/28/2016 4:10:58 PM EDT
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What it boils down to is this- with active shooter training going the route it is, there is an emphasis on accuracy at distance.



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I don't think you gave a budget number, so I would probably go with the Les Baer Ultimate Recon.



https://www.lesbaer.com/URecon.html




If accuracy at distance is a premium, spring for 1.5" guarantee.






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