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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:12:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:41:00 AM EDT
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standing by.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 8:45:01 AM EDT
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I think we will be standing by for a good while until CMP can get up to speed on them!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 8:55:47 AM EDT
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I think we will be standing by for a good while until CMP can get up to speed on them! They had posted on another forum (and it was in the other thread) that it could take more than a year or two to get them all ready to be sold. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 10:40:22 AM EDT
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Username is ironic, since he has two of these threads going at the same time. Click your selector over one notch, please.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 10:44:53 AM EDT
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In for the retarded prices.
Already looking at one at one of the LGSs here, they want $1500 for a Colt - which is not bad. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:23:57 AM EDT
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:40:44 AM EDT
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? It didn't work that way with Garands |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:51:55 AM EDT
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They had posted on another forum (and it was in the other thread) that it could take more than a year or two to get them all ready to be sold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think we will be standing by for a good while until CMP can get up to speed on them! They had posted on another forum (and it was in the other thread) that it could take more than a year or two to get them all ready to be sold. It's my understanding also....the Army has possession and must coordinate release....it's likely to happen but could be a while |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:55:49 AM EDT
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One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:31:50 PM EDT
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Setting funds aside, even if I don't ultimately make a purchase.
ETA: Tageronios. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:47:52 PM EDT
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I'm already renewing me CMP subscription, and setting $$$ aside. I'm getting one regardless
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:17:00 PM EDT
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Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market where? I want an old school 1911 but something it won't hurt me to shoot it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: where? I want an old school 1911 but something it won't hurt me to shoot it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market where? I want an old school 1911 but something it won't hurt me to shoot it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:25:13 PM EDT
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I can't wait for what sounds too good to be true.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing!  |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:59:57 AM EDT
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I read this in an NRA-ILA article. What does it mean?
"The component of the CMP that dispenses the pistols would be required to obtain a federal firearms license and abide by all requirements of the Gun Control Act pertaining to licensed sales and transfers." Sounds to me like it's not going to be the usual CMP transfer. Sounds like the CMP is going to be the exclusive licensed dealer. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:02:13 PM EDT
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the USGI 1911's i saw in the 1980's were all beat to hell
not holding my breath |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:24:07 PM EDT
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So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing!
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing!
That would be a rare gun if it was issued to a Marine on Luzon! |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:51:44 PM EDT
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where? I want an old school 1911 but something it won't hurt me to shoot it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market where? I want an old school 1911 but something it won't hurt me to shoot it. Keep your eyes open they are out there...here is an example ...GB will be higher than what you can find locally but they are out there GB |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:05:56 PM EDT
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I have an RR in about that condition....maybe a bit better. It's a solid, relaible shooter and can hold its own at 15 yards. I would LOVE to have a proper Colt in that condition or better.
I still don't quite get why Colt keeps doing solid 1911 repros but has ceased to continue doing 1911A1 repros. I'd kill for a modern CNC / state of the art metallurgy WW II repro 1911A1.....why they don't do those from time to time puzzles me. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:38:43 PM EDT
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I have an RR in about that condition....maybe a bit better. It's a solid, relaible shooter and can hold its own at 15 yards. I would LOVE to have a proper Colt in that condition or better. I still don't quite get why Colt keeps doing solid 1911 repros but has ceased to continue doing 1911A1 repros. I'd kill for a modern CNC / state of the art metallurgy WW II repro 1911A1.....why they don't do those from time to time puzzles me. That they ran the company into bankruptcy puzzles me. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:39:34 PM EDT
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I have an RR in about that condition....maybe a bit better. It's a solid, relaible shooter and can hold its own at 15 yards. I would LOVE to have a proper Colt in that condition or better. I still don't quite get why Colt keeps doing solid 1911 repros but has ceased to continue doing 1911A1 repros. I'd kill for a modern CNC / state of the art metallurgy WW II repro 1911A1.....why they don't do those from time to time puzzles me. They tried it with the WWII repro a few years ago as you mentioned but most people felt for the same $$$ they would rather have the real deal....still a problem with the WWII repros in the used market |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:57:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be a rare gun if it was issued to a Marine on Luzon! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing! That would be a rare gun if it was issued to a Marine on Luzon! I didn't know there were no Marines there. Guadalcanal, then.... |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:21:15 PM EDT
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So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing!
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Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing!
The last GI 1911A1 pistols were produced no later than 1945. 1911 pistols issued as a millitary sidearm were all from 1945 or before this includes the 1911 and 1911A1. Most have been rebuilt multiple times and as most guys who carried them will tell you they are by and large well used. Now that doesnt mean that there aren't some "correct" examples out there that have the same parts they left Colt/Rand/Ithaca etc.with but you can bet those will be pulled and probably sent to auction by CMP. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:45:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last GI 1911A1 pistols were produced no later than 1945. 1911 pistols issued as a millitary sidearm were all from 1945 or before this includes the 1911 and 1911A1. Most have been rebuilt multiple times and as most guys who carried them will tell you they are by and large well used. Now that doesnt mean that there aren't some "correct" examples out there that have the same parts they left Colt/Rand/Ithaca etc.with but you can bet those will be pulled and probably sent to auction by CMP. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shouldn't this drive prices down by flooding the market with WWII 1911's? One would think. But, these will probably be battle-worn examples, so I wouldn't expect really clean 1911's to drop in value. If by chance there are any "correct " guns that have not been rebuilt then I would bet that those would go to auction....a correct Colt of decent condition starts at about $2000 and up from there.....considering that 1911 pistols have not been built in 70 years how many do you think are correct? Arsenal rebuilds can currently be had for under a grand in today's market So you think these will be arsenal-rebuilt guns (for the most part?) My thought is that they will be original GI-issued sidearms, and the condition will vary depending on whether it was issued to a clerk in Germany, or a Marine in Luzon. They'll do function tests, and test fire them, but I didn't get the impression that they will spend a lot of time rebuilding these. But then, I don't know a darn thing! The last GI 1911A1 pistols were produced no later than 1945. 1911 pistols issued as a millitary sidearm were all from 1945 or before this includes the 1911 and 1911A1. Most have been rebuilt multiple times and as most guys who carried them will tell you they are by and large well used. Now that doesnt mean that there aren't some "correct" examples out there that have the same parts they left Colt/Rand/Ithaca etc.with but you can bet those will be pulled and probably sent to auction by CMP. Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 2:27:11 PM EDT
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If they are anything like the ones that we have in our armory then they will be a mixed bag. We've got some that are still in GI configuration, some have been milled for different sights, some have drop in beavertails, some have fitted bevertails with bobbed or replaced hammers, some have new production commercial slides from varying companies.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They tried it with the WWII repro a few years ago as you mentioned but most people felt for the same $$$ they would rather have the real deal....still a problem with the WWII repros in the used market Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have an RR in about that condition....maybe a bit better. It's a solid, relaible shooter and can hold its own at 15 yards. I would LOVE to have a proper Colt in that condition or better. I still don't quite get why Colt keeps doing solid 1911 repros but has ceased to continue doing 1911A1 repros. I'd kill for a modern CNC / state of the art metallurgy WW II repro 1911A1.....why they don't do those from time to time puzzles me. They tried it with the WWII repro a few years ago as you mentioned but most people felt for the same $$$ they would rather have the real deal....still a problem with the WWII repros in the used market Good point. Would still like either one, though. |
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