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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:39:06 PM EDT
I decided to try and post up a more in depth look at this build. I had no prior experience with 1911's, and was trying to keep it as reliable and inexpensive as possible. It was not meant be a show piece, as i used a lot of used parts, and there are quite a few blemishes.
Lets start with the frame. tools used, plunger tube staking device, small punch. small flat head, tweazers and a bunch of small hand files. bought this from brownells for ~20$. i unfortunatley did not take any pics prior to staking the plunger tube. Here is a link explaining the process. Next would be putting in the extractor. Again, i didnt get any pics of this process (mostly because i forgot to do it before the first range trip, ) Here is a video explaining that process. Next is Ed Brown trigger, had to file the top and bottom to fit in my frame. also had to trial and error the diameter of the trigger to fit into frame, but not block the mag. slide it in through the back looks good. next is mag release button. this little sucker took a good amount of filing to fit into the frame. I replaced the spring in this one (from sarco) with an ed brown complete spring kit one. (no pics, sorry) slide it into the frame behind the trigger, and rotate the screw downward until it snaps into place. nice tight, but smooth fit. Disconnecter and sear look like this. they go together like this. using the tweazers, slide the disconnector into the hole at above trigger, and align it with the sqear, and proper holes on frame. ( i could not get a good pic of this) use a punch to hold them in place, then slide in small pin. Leaf spring is next. set it into the frame like this, make sure the protrusion at bottom goes into the correct slot, and the spring sits on top of disconnecter, and trigger. Now i use the main spring housing to hold the leaf spring in place. This housing is from sarco, but upgraded with the ed brown spring and plungers. Now the Hammer. This is a wilson hammer, but the extender is from a sarco kit. It goes onto the sear, and aligns with the plunger in the spring housing. line it up and use the larger pin to hold in place. (the correct pin will have a head like a nail, not a notch in the middle) Now, the beaver tail. This jack ass took a whole lot of filing and fitting. I used fine grit sandpaper on the sides, and a dremel and about 9 files on the protrusion that sits on the trigger. (it took awhile) This is where i slide the spring housing up and pin in place, this is the pin with the notch in middle. make sure hammer extender is sitting in the middle of the plunger in the spring housing. use a punch to get the pin in place. plunger into the tube thumb saftey. This is another piece that took a whole lot of time to fit. I was completely new to 1911's, so it took me forever to find what was catching and where to file. thumb saftey into the frame, it hold beaver tail in place. Use the tweazers to push the plunger out of the way, and snap saftey into place. VZ operator slim grips, use some loctite. to be continued with slide. |
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Barrel from Sarco. It already had the lug installed, and fit the slide pretty alright.
I know i am getting a little lazy with the descriptions, but the slide is pretty self explanatory. I used a no frills turkish slide from cdnn. I was surprised with the quality, it is really nice, and i had to do barely any fitting to the psa frame. it was a little tight, so i used some lapping compount to fit the two. line up barrel link with hole in frame. install slide catch, and line up small cutout in slide to the frame and catch once aligned, push into place. I used a wilson bushing on this gun. It took a ton of fitting as well, both inside and outside diameter. spring and spring cap are from sarco kit. not to shabby. i swear, it was harder to take these pics, upload them to photobucket, and post them here with descriptions than it was to build this thing. |
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Awesome! You are ahead of me on my PSA build, but I hope to have it done soon.
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If you were using all new parts what would you have into it on a budget?
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Great job, OP! Still collecting parts for my PSA build. I also went with the Ed Brown beavertail, haven't received it yet. I'm not looking forward to all the tedious filing! It looks great on yours. I've been reading that others went to .220 radius BTs on their builds due to fitting issues (even the EGW one that was recommended by PSA), so I was worried that it wouldn't work out. This thread is making me antsy to finish this little project up!
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If you have little patience and think a 1911 will slip together like an ar you will be bitterly disappointed.
I have over 30 years using 1911's and know a good bit about them mechanically. Some people like being challenged with a build. I am most definitely not one of those guys. I will buy a used beater colt for 100 bucks more and be done. |
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If you were using all new parts what would you have into it on a budget? View Quote Depending on which company's you go with, buying all new stuff could be somewhere between $600- sky's the limit Frame was $130 Slide was $100 shipped I traded a used 11.5 AR barrel for two 1911 barrels and a sarco parts kit 0$ (barrel i traded was worth maybe $125) All the misc. things i bought from Brownells. Ed Brown and Wilson parts cost me $190 Grips cost 50 bucks. shipped So i have $470 into it, with all new springs, pins, bushing, beaver-tail... any of the parts that would wear from regular use. Plus i have an extra of almost everything (including a barrel) minus the frame and slide. |
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If you have little patience and think a 1911 will slip together like an ar you will be bitterly disappointed. I have over 30 years using 1911's and know a good bit about them mechanically. Some people like being challenged with a build. I am most definitely not one of those guys. I will buy a used beater colt for 100 bucks more and be done. View Quote If you're not challenging yourself, whats the point? |
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Great job, OP! Still collecting parts for my PSA build. I also went with the Ed Brown beavertail, haven't received it yet. I'm not looking forward to all the tedious filing! It looks great on yours. I've been reading that others went to .220 radius BTs on their builds due to fitting issues (even the EGW one that was recommended by PSA), so I was worried that it wouldn't work out. This thread is making me antsy to finish this little project up! View Quote |
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I am slowly gathering parts for my PSA 1911 build, bought the carbon steel frame and slide. Picked up Remington beaver tail and mainspring housing from CDNN for about $16 each, fit like a glove!
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Do we know who the frames and slides are made by that PSA is selling? Also is this a 1 time deal or are they going to be selling these on a regular basis?
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DAMN YOU!!! Stop this insanity right now!!! You are making me think I could actually do this!!!
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Do we know who the frames and slides are made by that PSA is selling? Also is this a 1 time deal or are they going to be selling these on a regular basis? View Quote Not sure who makes them, but, they are VERY well made. They have been selling them for a while, they sell out then they come back in stock. I'd buy one now if want one, I doubt they will get any cheaper! |
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Another vote for those slides and barrels in the OP's story. They are surprisingly nicely made. I put one on a lightweight Brand X frame, and although it is unshot certainly looks and cycles snap caps like it will be just fine. Pretty good value as opposed to assembling those slide parts individually.
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If you're not challenging yourself, whats the point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you have little patience and think a 1911 will slip together like an ar you will be bitterly disappointed. I have over 30 years using 1911's and know a good bit about them mechanically. Some people like being challenged with a build. I am most definitely not one of those guys. I will buy a used beater colt for 100 bucks more and be done. If you're not challenging yourself, whats the point? I would prefer to spend my time shooting instead of tediously filing and fitting a gun to make it run is my point. Some people like to tinker and get satisfaction out of it and god bless them. My point is I don't like building stuff - not my thing. There are drivers and mechanics ( and some people are both and enjoy both equally) I just rather drive and leave the mechanics to someone else |
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Because of this thread, I've ordered two frames, one of each and a SS slide.
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Nice write up, OP. Have to fit the correct link pin to my 16" SARCO bbl to mate to my RIA before I start the shoulder stock project.
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Thanks!
It is a blast to choot. I have had no issues since properly installing the ejector. |
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So maybe this is a question for a different thread, but what is the difference in the carbon and SS? Which is better and why I guess is what I'm getting at. I could google it, I'd just like it in layman's terms lol.
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Quoted: So maybe this is a question for a different thread, but what is the difference in the carbon and SS? Which is better and why I guess is what I'm getting at. I could google it, I'd just like it in layman's terms lol. View Quote One is made of stainless steel, and the other one is carbon steel (with what looks like a black oxide finish). I usually buy stainless frames and slides so I don't have to refinish after any fitting & filing, just polish out the scratches and bead blast. |
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One is made of stainless steel, and the other one is carbon steel (with what looks like a black oxide finish). I usually buy stainless frames and slides so I don't have to refinish after any fitting & filing, just polish out the scratches and bead blast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So maybe this is a question for a different thread, but what is the difference in the carbon and SS? Which is better and why I guess is what I'm getting at. I could google it, I'd just like it in layman's terms lol. One is made of stainless steel, and the other one is carbon steel (with what looks like a black oxide finish). I usually buy stainless frames and slides so I don't have to refinish after any fitting & filing, just polish out the scratches and bead blast. Other than the finish, I didn't know if one had better qualities than the other. Like as far as durability and strength, etc. |
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Let's drag this one back up to page 1.
This build has inspired me to build a clone of an older Colt Combat Elite. What can these sights be replaced with without having to cut a dovetail? Will these fit?: http://www.opticsplanet.com/trijicon-hd-night-sight-set-for-1911-colt-cut-handgun.html |
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outstanding!
I did one myself a few years ago and while I wouldn't do it again (I don't think you save any money really) it was great to simply learn them for future work. |
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Thanks. I have another 200 rounds through it with no issues. The trigger!! Oh man, .. so crisp! (Glock fanboy) |
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OP, you inspired me. My homage to an older Combat Elite: http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/B3A89A2B-6C51-40B3-A6C5-41D82237E72E_zpsifo2ls0e.jpg View Quote It's glorious! How's it choot? |
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OP, you inspired me. My homage to an older Combat Elite: http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/B3A89A2B-6C51-40B3-A6C5-41D82237E72E_zpsifo2ls0e.jpg It's glorious! How's it choot? I don't have any mags yet. Or any .45 loaded up. |
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Not sure who makes them, but, they are VERY well made. They have been selling them for a while, they sell out then they come back in stock. I'd buy one now if want one, I doubt they will get any cheaper! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do we know who the frames and slides are made by that PSA is selling? Also is this a 1 time deal or are they going to be selling these on a regular basis? Not sure who makes them, but, they are VERY well made. They have been selling them for a while, they sell out then they come back in stock. I'd buy one now if want one, I doubt they will get any cheaper! I got one for $99 on clearance tonight and they still show in stock for now.... |
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I got one for $99 on clearance tonight and they still show in stock for now.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do we know who the frames and slides are made by that PSA is selling? Also is this a 1 time deal or are they going to be selling these on a regular basis? Not sure who makes them, but, they are VERY well made. They have been selling them for a while, they sell out then they come back in stock. I'd buy one now if want one, I doubt they will get any cheaper! I got one for $99 on clearance tonight and they still show in stock for now.... Damn! That's a heck of a deal! |
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I got one for $99 on clearance tonight and they still show in stock for now.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do we know who the frames and slides are made by that PSA is selling? Also is this a 1 time deal or are they going to be selling these on a regular basis? Not sure who makes them, but, they are VERY well made. They have been selling them for a while, they sell out then they come back in stock. I'd buy one now if want one, I doubt they will get any cheaper! I got one for $99 on clearance tonight and they still show in stock for now.... This thread will cost me money...Just ordered one. |
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My old beat-up LW Commander needs to go to the home for old carry guns. This thread gives me hope that I can build a 1911 bumming-around-pistol. One piece at a time. |
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I've been curious about those Regent slides. They look pretty good and I've had the itch to build another retro 1911.
I see the PSA clearance frames have been posted already. Numrich did have Para slides for $79. They might be sold out now though. The one i bought is stainless and had a front sight base already, so that is one less expense. Be aware that they use a proprietary sight cut and some, but not all, use the PXT extractor and will require a sleeve (sold by brownells and sarco) to utilize a standard extractor. Also the ejector slot in the slide is a bit more narrow so the ejector could require some fitting. Just another budget slide option. |
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