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Posted: 1/8/2015 1:37:11 AM EDT
Used to own an Ed Brown Executive Elite a couple years back for a brief period of time. Loved shooting it, but I hated cleaning the damn thing. Damn near impossible to take down and every time I feared for my life with the spring shooting out lol. I was constantly terrified of getting a single scratch on it and constantly babied it. Ended up selling it when someone at the range offered me a nice chunk of cash.
Been several years but I still get the itch to shoot a 1911... thinking I'll get a great quality and good bang for buck 1911 this time that I wouldn't be afraid to go hard on. After looking around a bunch, it seems the TRP and the Valor are still highly recommended in the 1911 community, but I'm hoping you guys could steer me towards one or the other. 
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Posted: 1/8/2015 2:00:07 AM EDT
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TRP
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Posted: 1/8/2015 5:55:12 AM EDT
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I've heard nothing but good on the Valor but own a 5" non-rail TRP.
I've had several 1911s built for me and the TRP is the best off the rack 1911 I've owned. I switched to a 10-8 short guide rod and cap to ease takedown and had my smith install a single sided safety (hate ambi) I'd love to pickup a railed TRP and throw a X300U on it for the truck. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:07:35 AM EDT
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What do you want it for, and what is your budget? I can say that the market has seen a big price drop on the TRP.
Just something I'll point out; I sold my TRP to buy my Colt Wiley Clapp Government; I love it that much. If you're looking for a carry pistol, I don't think you can find much better. I still haven't been able to handle a DW locally to see how it feels.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 9:29:56 AM EDT
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Valor
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Posted: 1/8/2015 9:40:22 AM EDT
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I love Springfield, but the Valor is the better pistol. Just look at the features of each gun and see which matches what you want the most. I prefer 25lpi vs 20lpi and I hate the stupid tactical stamp. So the TRP was out for me.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 11:07:38 AM EDT
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I have a TRP that is for sale here on the EE under Handguns, I am going to get a Springfield Armory MC Operator.
But I will say from what I have read the Valor is the best over 1,500.00 and under 2,000.00 1911 You can Buy! A TRP is under 1,500.00 but is fast approaching 1,500.00 I am looking for 1,150.00 Shipped for Mine. 
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Posted: 1/8/2015 11:37:09 AM EDT
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I chose the Valor, great pistol. TRP is no slouch either they are both fine examples of the pistol. How much do you want to spend? TRP and a shitload of ammo/mags or a Valor?
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Posted: 1/8/2015 12:09:24 PM EDT
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Gonna hold out until after I see what's coming out at SHOT, but if I'm going 1911 it'll probably be about $1500 or so for one.
Do they both feel the same in hand? It'll honestly probably just be for range use. I'd have to get a lot of practice in with it before considering it for carry use. This may be a dumb question, but how easily do they break down? Barrel bushing tight on them? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 12:11:29 PM EDT
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I have not taken down a TRP but the bushing on my Valor is snug but not tight. Have you also looked at the DW Specialist? Seems like it'd be a closer comparison in price and features to the TRP.
ETA I would say that the Valor has a higher level of finish, which given the TRP's excellent record is mostly aesthetic. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 3:28:43 PM EDT
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Gonna hold out until after I see what's coming out at SHOT, but if I'm going 1911 it'll probably be about $1500 or so for one. Do they both feel the same in hand? It'll honestly probably just be for range use. I'd have to get a lot of practice in with it before considering it for carry use. This may be a dumb question, but how easily do they break down? Barrel bushing tight on them? I have a stainless Valor, buddy of mine has a stainless TRP. The Valor's fit and finish is above the TRP, however, the TRP is finished pretty nicely, but the Valor's edges are smoothed out more than the TRP. The 20lpi checkering on the TRP is quite a bit more aggressive than the 25lpi on the Valor. The sights on the 2 are a wash, Im not a fan of the Valor's straight 8's and not a fan of the silver outlined 3 dot novaks on the TRP (hard to see in our indoor range) The Valor was more accurate in both of our hands at around 15yds but only slightly Trigger was better on the Valor, but again, not leaps and bounds better. Much crisper reset though. TRP has Magwell (neither a + or - for me) I don't care for FCS on a stainless pistol. Valor has slim grips, which I don't care for. Easy enough fix. Don't care for the 2 pc guide rod on the TRP, easy enough fix. Bushing on the Valor is tight, but hand turnable. Have not broken down his TRP so I cannot make any guess there. The valor has an undercut trigger guard, which I like. I don't think you will go wrong with either pistol. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 4:36:29 PM EDT
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Either is a fine pistol. Buy either with confidence. I went TRP.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 5:16:30 PM EDT
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I dunno, I'm just here for the sexy 1911 pr0n!!!
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Posted: 1/8/2015 5:22:07 PM EDT
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Either is a fine pistol. Buy either with confidence.... |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 12:03:07 AM EDT
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I was "somewhat" in the same boat, however I decided to go with a Les Baer as I could get it for roughly 300 more than a DW or the TRP and I already had a Sprinfield MC Op. However I am fearing the "flying springs" as you put it so there is that aspect. As I have read a wrench is usually necessary for take down.
So to answer your question I guess I would go with the DW as I already own a Springfield. 
Good luck with your choice I don't think you really can go too wrong with either. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 7:24:41 AM EDT
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I had a black Valor that was the most beautiful pistol I have ever seen. The fit and finish were perfect, so I too was nervous about scratching that work of art. But, I could not get it to group consistently. It probably was my eyes and the Heinie sight not playing well together. I wanted to change out the rear sight to an adjustable, but then decided not to. I saw a TRP Operator and the LGS and traded the Valor on the sport. The fit and finish of the TRP, while not as good as the Valor, is only behind by inches, not miles. With the bull barrel and the adjustable rear sight, I was able to get it dialed in for me with ease. I zeroed it for 50 yards knowing that I would have to hold at 6 o'clock for shorter distance, and it has been the most accurate pistol I have ever seen or owned. The Valor has never come close.
Fit and finish do count for something, but they only go so far. Give me a shooter that is built like a tank any day. The TRP Operator, hands down. 
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Posted: 1/9/2015 9:13:10 AM EDT
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I use Springfield pistols in competition. I also own a DW Valor. I have only good things to say about both brands of pistols.
Both are extremely durable. Both are completely dependable. Both offer excellent customer service. Both will last a lifetime. Both are accurate. Sorry, OP, you're on your own. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:23:06 AM EDT
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I had a black Valor that was the most beautiful pistol I have ever seen. The fit and finish were perfect, so I too was nervous about scratching that work of art. But, I could not get it to group consistently. It probably was my eyes and the Heinie sight not playing well together. I wanted to change out the rear sight to an adjustable, but then decided not to. I saw a TRP Operator and the LGS and traded the Valor on the sport. The fit and finish of the TRP, while not as good as the Valor, is only behind by inches, not miles. With the bull barrel and the adjustable rear sight, I was able to get it dialed in for me with ease. I zeroed it for 50 yards knowing that I would have to hold at 6 o'clock for shorter distance, and it has been the most accurate pistol I have ever seen or owned. The Valor has never come close. Fit and finish do count for something, but they only go so far. Give me a shooter that is built like a tank any day. The TRP Operator, hands down. http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/monadhclann/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps478a5515.jpg I will have to say you are probably right in the straight eights were throwing you off. I still can't get used to them, but the Valor is the most accurate 1911 I own. May just bite the bullet and put a 10-8 rear on it. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:38:52 PM EDT
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What do you want it for, and what is your budget? I can say that the market has seen a big price drop on the TRP. Just something I'll point out; I sold my TRP to buy my Colt Wiley Clapp Government; I love it that much. If you're looking for a carry pistol, I don't think you can find much better. I still haven't been able to handle a DW locally to see how it feels. Where? |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 1:12:16 AM EDT
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I've shot both and a specialst.
Bought the TRP as it was priced better @ $1300 and I'm hard on guns... So I went with the more practical option / "the shooter". If it's just another nice 1911 / range queen get the valor. If you want something to push hard get the TRP. With fancy shoes on (usually wears vz's) 
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Posted: 1/10/2015 2:49:18 AM EDT
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I've no experience with either so I can't comment on that but I can say I do really like the straight eight sights. The first time I ever used them was when I got my STI Elektra, I wasn't too sure about them at first but after about 20-30 rounds I was shooting better than I do with the traditional sights I've used all my life. Both those 1911's are nice, hard choice.
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Posted: 1/10/2015 10:02:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What do you want it for, and what is your budget? I can say that the market has seen a big price drop on the TRP. Just something I'll point out; I sold my TRP to buy my Colt Wiley Clapp Government; I love it that much. If you're looking for a carry pistol, I don't think you can find much better. I still haven't been able to handle a DW locally to see how it feels. Where? Just look on Gunbroker. As an example; I sold my first TRP a for $1550...used! But when I wound up with another TRP last year from a trade, I barely got $1200 for it.
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Posted: 1/10/2015 11:02:37 AM EDT
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Just look on Gunbroker. As an example; I sold my first TRP a for $1550...used! But when I wound up with another TRP last year from a trade, I barely got $1200 for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What do you want it for, and what is your budget? I can say that the market has seen a big price drop on the TRP. Just something I'll point out; I sold my TRP to buy my Colt Wiley Clapp Government; I love it that much. If you're looking for a carry pistol, I don't think you can find much better. I still haven't been able to handle a DW locally to see how it feels. Where? Just look on Gunbroker. As an example; I sold my first TRP a for $1550...used! But when I wound up with another TRP last year from a trade, I barely got $1200 for it. I saw several for around $1200 and up. I was hoping for a price drop around $1k or under. |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 11:46:07 AM EDT
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Valor if you want the better gun.
TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 2:14:32 PM EDT
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I've shot both and a specialst. Bought the TRP as it was priced better @ $1300 and I'm hard on guns... So I went with the more practical option / "the shooter". If it's just another nice 1911 / range queen get the valor. If you want something to push hard get the TRP. With fancy shoes on (usually wears vz's) http://i.imgur.com/GAuWwN4.jpg That logic seems flawed. Valors can't be "pushed hard"? Baers, browns, Wilsons either because they are more expensive? |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 2:23:59 PM EDT
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Valor if you want the better gun. TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. I don't doubt the Valor is built a bit better than the TRP but... how many, and exactly what MIM parts have you personally broken on your 1911's? I've had a Mil-Spec and two "Loaded" Springers that I've put thru handgun hell with IDPA, and shooting thousands of rounds without one breakage causing the pistol to go down while training. I don't doubt it happens Tfod; and I'd like to know what parts I should keep an eye on/or maybe think about swapping out on my high round count 1911... I'm seriously asking, and NOT being a smart ass to you. |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 4:24:58 PM EDT
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I don't doubt the Valor is built a bit better than the TRP but... how many, and exactly what MIM parts have you personally broken on your 1911's? I've had a Mil-Spec and two "Loaded" Springers that I've put thru handgun hell with IDPA, and shooting thousands of rounds without one breakage causing the pistol to go down while training. I don't doubt it happens Tfod; and I'd like to know what parts I should keep an eye on/or maybe think about swapping out on my high round count 1911... I'm seriously asking, and NOT being a smart ass to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Valor if you want the better gun. TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. I don't doubt the Valor is built a bit better than the TRP but... how many, and exactly what MIM parts have you personally broken on your 1911's? I've had a Mil-Spec and two "Loaded" Springers that I've put thru handgun hell with IDPA, and shooting thousands of rounds without one breakage causing the pistol to go down while training. I don't doubt it happens Tfod; and I'd like to know what parts I should keep an eye on/or maybe think about swapping out on my high round count 1911... I'm seriously asking, and NOT being a smart ass to you. There isn't anything wrong with MIM parts, and from everything I have read about them if an MIM part is going to break it is early in it's life. I also have SA Loaded 1911s and have never had an MIM part break. |
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Posted: 1/10/2015 9:59:38 PM EDT
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That logic seems flawed. Valors can't be "pushed hard"? Baers, browns, Wilsons either because they are more expensive? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've shot both and a specialst. Bought the TRP as it was priced better @ $1300 and I'm hard on guns... So I went with the more practical option / "the shooter". If it's just another nice 1911 / range queen get the valor. If you want something to push hard get the TRP. With fancy shoes on (usually wears vz's) http://i.imgur.com/GAuWwN4.jpg That logic seems flawed. Valors can't be "pushed hard"? Baers, browns, Wilsons either because they are more expensive? I treat my TRP like I do my glocks, I'd have a hard time doing that to a valor. It's carried in kydex, tossed in a .50 cal can on range trips where I'm carrying something else, shot in the rain and gets cleaned every so often. My word choice meant something different than you took it for, should of said "treated like a hammer" vs "pushed hard" |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 1:06:54 AM EDT
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I treat my TRP like I do my glocks, I'd have a hard time doing that to a valor. It's carried in kydex, tossed in a .50 cal can on range trips where I'm carrying something else, shot in the rain and gets cleaned every so often. My word choice meant something different than you took it for, should of said "treated like a hammer" vs "pushed hard" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've shot both and a specialst. Bought the TRP as it was priced better @ $1300 and I'm hard on guns... So I went with the more practical option / "the shooter". If it's just another nice 1911 / range queen get the valor. If you want something to push hard get the TRP. With fancy shoes on (usually wears vz's) http://i.imgur.com/GAuWwN4.jpg That logic seems flawed. Valors can't be "pushed hard"? Baers, browns, Wilsons either because they are more expensive? I treat my TRP like I do my glocks, I'd have a hard time doing that to a valor. It's carried in kydex, tossed in a .50 cal can on range trips where I'm carrying something else, shot in the rain and gets cleaned every so often. My word choice meant something different than you took it for, should of said "treated like a hammer" vs "pushed hard" Ah, but the duty treat (aka melonite aka nitrocarburizing) on the Valor will stand up to far more abuse than the Armorykote on the TRP. It by far the most durable finish available for pistols. functionally it's the same as Tennifer, which might ring a bell.... OP, a couple of years ago when both were around $1500, I would have said Valor, I own still,2 at the mo, had a TRP, the Valor was quite a bit nicer all round. However, the black Valor seems to run $1800, stainless $1500 ish whilst CDNN has new stainless TRPs for $1149.... As a previous poster mentioned, the DW Specialist runs cheaper than the Valor ( and I've seen used ones around $1200 ), and it's a very nice piece. Absolutely nothing wrong with the TRP, I'm just not a fan of adjustable sights and front cocking serrations... |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 2:29:49 AM EDT
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Valor if you want the better gun. TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. Not sure how you define better. Better made? No doubt, my black Valor was one of the best made pistols I have ever seen. Better shooter? My TRP Operator is without a doubt the best shooting pistol I have owned. The Valor cannot touch it. The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. Everyone has a favorite. A buyer should choose what he wants. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 6:14:55 AM EDT
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Not sure how you define better. Better made? No doubt, my black Valor was one of the best made pistols I have ever seen. Better shooter? My TRP Operator is without a doubt the best shooting pistol I have owned. The Valor cannot touch it. The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. Everyone has a favorite. A buyer should choose what he wants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Valor if you want the better gun. TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. Not sure how you define better. Better made? No doubt, my black Valor was one of the best made pistols I have ever seen. Better shooter? My TRP Operator is without a doubt the best shooting pistol I have owned. The Valor cannot touch it. The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. Everyone has a favorite. A buyer should choose what he wants. False. Why would you lie to him? The buyer should always consult internet fanboiz and take their advice as gospel. In all seriousness I have a duty coated valor and I love it. I've carried it for two years almost in a leather holster and there and minimal signs of wear. It still looks great. I too beat around my guns (CZ82,75b, etc) but the valor gets the special treatment. But I would dust her up in a heartbeat without second thought to reliability. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 6:32:42 AM EDT
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My PERSONAL feeling is Valor.
Why: I don't like front cocking serrations, I don't like the 20 LPI checkering, I prefer non-MIM to all tool steel which the Valor is. The cost is not an issue to me. I would not hesitate to shoot the hell out of the Valor and carry it. The DW line is very nice for me. IMHO |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 1:27:30 PM EDT
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The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. you mean by hairier, more muscular gunsmiths? maybe, but otherwise I'm pretty sure the TRP is built out of the same stuff as most 1911's... maybe the extra weight of the rail is giving the impression of indestructibility..... |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 1:59:05 PM EDT
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Have owned a couple TRP's, own a Valor. Both very fine guns, but the Valor uses better parts and I believe the workmsnship is better. Feels and shoots a lot like a Wilson or Brown.
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Posted: 1/11/2015 2:48:59 PM EDT
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False. Why would you lie to him? The buyer should always consult internet fanboiz and take their advice as gospel. In all seriousness I have a duty coated valor and I love it. I've carried it for two years almost in a leather holster and there and minimal signs of wear. It still looks great. I too beat around my guns (CZ82,75b, etc) but the valor gets the special treatment. But I would dust her up in a heartbeat without second thought to reliability. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Valor if you want the better gun. TRP to save a few bucks and protect yourself if you have high hopes of the forward serrations granting you mystical powers of enchantment and some how offsetting the fact you short changed yourself with MIM parts by being fancy-ical. Not sure how you define better. Better made? No doubt, my black Valor was one of the best made pistols I have ever seen. Better shooter? My TRP Operator is without a doubt the best shooting pistol I have owned. The Valor cannot touch it. The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. Everyone has a favorite. A buyer should choose what he wants. False. Why would you lie to him? The buyer should always consult internet fanboiz and take their advice as gospel. In all seriousness I have a duty coated valor and I love it. I've carried it for two years almost in a leather holster and there and minimal signs of wear. It still looks great. I too beat around my guns (CZ82,75b, etc) but the valor gets the special treatment. But I would dust her up in a heartbeat without second thought to reliability. Agreed, the finish of the black Valor is the best I have seen on any firearm. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 2:53:44 PM EDT
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you mean by hairier, more muscular gunsmiths? maybe, but otherwise I'm pretty sure the TRP is built out of the same stuff as most 1911's... maybe the extra weight of the rail is giving the impression of indestructibility..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The TRP is more ruggedly made and feels as if you could make little rocks out of big rocks if you wanted to. you mean by hairier, more muscular gunsmiths? maybe, but otherwise I'm pretty sure the TRP is built out of the same stuff as most 1911's... maybe the extra weight of the rail is giving the impression of indestructibility..... I speak from having owned both, not conjecture. The lasting impression for me is the TRP is more ruggedly built. But having said that, I would never trash either to prove that. Even if I had the money I would no more trash a Valor or TRP than I would trash a 1970 Chevelle. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 3:07:33 PM EDT
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I'd go Dan Wesson Valor for sure personally. I much prefer the 25 lines per inch checkering on the Valor compared to the TRP's very sharp 20 LPI checkering where you really need gloves to shoot it. Both are great 1911's for the money though, I'd be happy with either one. But the quality of the Dan Wesson is a bit better, all tool machined parts and no MIM parts, and everything is fitted together very nicely, it's right up there with the semi-custom 1911's on the market. Also I prefer the single sided safety, and no front serrations, and GI recoil spring setup, and I can use the rear sight to charge the weapon with my belt or boot. The dot on dot sights take little getting used to compared to the three dot system of the TRP that I'm used to. I do like the magwell on the TRP. Of course you can add that yourself fairly easy by replacing the mainspring housing with a Alexander and Smith mainspring housing with built in magwell. I don't care for all the rollmarks on the TRP, I like the more plain Valor. Also the Valor Duty Coat finish is very tough. I would compare the Valor to the Ed Brown, of course the Brown is a bit nicer and better fit barrel, but other than that they are very comparable. For the money it's tough to beat the Valor. I got a blemished version off GunBroker.com for $1500 and am very happy with it. I'd recommend one for sure.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 2:29:06 AM EDT
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I'd go Dan Wesson Valor for sure personally. I much prefer the 25 lines per inch checkering on the Valor compared to the TRP's very sharp 20 LPI checkering where you really need gloves to shoot it. Both are great 1911's for the money though, I'd be happy with either one. But the quality of the Dan Wesson is a bit better, all tool machined parts and no MIM parts, and everything is fitted together very nicely, it's right up there with the semi-custom 1911's on the market. Also I prefer the single sided safety, and no front serrations, and GI recoil spring setup, and I can use the rear sight to charge the weapon with my belt or boot. The dot on dot sights take little getting used to compared to the three dot system of the TRP that I'm used to. I do like the magwell on the TRP. Of course you can add that yourself fairly easy by replacing the mainspring housing with a Alexander and Smith mainspring housing with built in magwell. I don't care for all the rollmarks on the TRP, I like the more plain Valor. Also the Valor Duty Coat finish is very tough. I would compare the Valor to the Ed Brown, of course the Brown is a bit nicer and better fit barrel, but other than that they are very comparable. For the money it's tough to beat the Valor. I got a blemished version off GunBroker.com for $1500 and am very happy with it. I'd recommend one for sure. 1911 Comparison Sample size of one and whatnot, but still interesting food for thought. At this level, I think it essentially comes down to individual variation among models of the same gun being a bigger difference than differences between brands, and also perhaps different barrels preferring different ammo. Very similar to what you see in high-end rifle barrels. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 7:31:14 PM EDT
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Valor for quality of parts and non-cheese grater checkering. I looked at both and went with the Valor after doing research and handling them both in person, but don't take that as me badmouthing the TRP.
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Posted: 1/14/2015 8:44:34 AM EDT
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Valor is a better pistol.
Better fit and finish, better small parts,pinned ejector. Better out of the box trigger pull compared to the TRP I had. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:04:03 AM EDT
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Ive owned 3 TRPs, a standard and two operators. The standard was stainless and near impossible to take apart, even with extra care, I put the world's biggest idiot scratch on it, frame to slide baby...
The two operators were junky considering the price, both were used so maybe I had turds pawned off on me. But one was so bad, it was truly embarrassing it ever left the factory. I own a Valor and have handled a couple other DWs, they were much more consistent and for the price, are the best built 1911s I have ever seen. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 1:09:27 AM EDT
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I have a TRP and I LOVE that thing. I've also heard nothing but good things about the Valor. If get both isn't an option sounds like you're good to go with either. Enjoy!
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Posted: 1/28/2015 2:31:28 AM EDT
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I'm in the both camp. I currently own a TRP Operator and I've got a Stainless Valor near the top of my wish list.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:38:17 AM EDT
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Trp and extra mags n ammo.
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:39:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Get both...
I really like my TRP. I've only put a few rounds through the Valor, but it is very nice. I've put a few hundred through the TRP and it is rock solid. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:26:54 PM EDT
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Get both...
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8581/15723481673_f82655babb_o.jpg I really like my TRP. I've only put a few rounds through the Valor, but it is very nice. I've put a few hundred through the TRP and it is rock solid. I would say the same thing, but after having owned both and trading the Valor to get the TRP Operator, I will stick with the TRP Op and then buy a non-operator TRP in black. I simply cannot find fault in my TRP. Now only 29 months until my Professional shows up. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 11:32:11 PM EDT
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Now only 29 months until my Professional shows up. Relax....it will take that long. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:19:38 PM EDT
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Would you rather buy the nicest house in a blue collar neighborhood, or a mid range house in an elite neighborhood?
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Posted: 1/31/2015 12:28:15 AM EDT
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Would you rather buy the nicest house in a blue collar neighborhood, or a mid range house in an elite neighborhood? I think your giving the valor more credit than it deserves.....nothing "elite" about it, or at least more elite than a TRP. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 11:32:55 PM EDT
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I think your giving the valor more credit than it deserves.....nothing "elite" about it, or at least more elite than a TRP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you rather buy the nicest house in a blue collar neighborhood, or a mid range house in an elite neighborhood? I think your giving the valor more credit than it deserves.....nothing "elite" about it, or at least more elite than a TRP. You really don't understand my point. Would you rather have the nicest car that Chrysler makes, or a mid-range Mercedes? Assuming the price is close. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:07:34 AM EDT
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My PERSONAL feeling is Valor.Why: I don't like front cocking serrations, I don't like the 20 LPI checkering, I prefer non-MIM to all tool steel which the Valor is. The cost is not an issue to me. I would not hesitate to shoot the hell out of the Valor and carry it. The DW line is very nice for me. IMHO This is pretty much how I feel too. Also keep in mind that all DW models are not created equal. They have their budget oriented lines just as SA does. |
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