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Posted: 11/17/2014 6:04:01 AM EDT
Looking for one of the 2, who has got the best deal on either and what model is a good one, new to either brand, only interested in 45 or 9mm and full size but preferrably a commander


Update

Grabbed a dan wesson heritage last black friday and am looking at swapping out the plain grips on it.

I like the looks of the DW shadow grips and just looking to see who knows if they will slide right on or need longer screws   or ?
Link Posted: 11/17/2014 9:42:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Either would be a good choice. Colt is going to add a few 9mms next year.






Me, I prefer Colt.




ETA: couldn't tell you what sort of deals are out there, as you haven't stated a preference for a particular model. You have to decide what sort of features you want.

 
Link Posted: 11/17/2014 11:52:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Can't speak for a 9mm 1911, but for 45acp, I would opt for the Wesson's.

I have nothing against Colt but they don't really offer anything out of the box that I particularly want. The Valor was 99% exactly what I wanted.

Doubt you could go wrong with either.
Link Posted: 11/17/2014 7:39:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Dan Wesson and thank me later.

Link Posted: 11/17/2014 8:52:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Im looking at the dan wesson heriatge and colts similiar priced
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 12:24:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Dan Wesson is a higher quality 1911 than Colt.For the money, Dan Wesson will be higher quality then anything else outside of getting a deal on a semi-custom, like Baer, WC, NH, etc.

I wouldn't think twice about choosing a Dan Wesson over Colt.

There are some good deals for Heritages on gun broker, some are blem models. Which usually seem to be reported as unnoticeable.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 12:26:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Does anyone like the Dan Wesson ECO?  Never see it mentioned.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:09:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Leaning hard on the dan wesson heritage, found it right at the $1k mark..Also had a quick talk with them and all of the newer heritage 1911's have forged frames instead of the cast they use to.wondering if i should buy now oe hold out to see what black friday brings...
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 8:04:49 AM EDT
[#8]
From what I read / hear, Dan Wessons are supposed to be fantastic.  With that said, I'm a fan of Colt.  I have a few, and will buy more.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 8:33:56 AM EDT
[#9]
OP, if you're looking at the Heritage, compare it to a Colt XSE.



And don't buy into the fanboyism above saying DW is better than everything. Are they well built; of course. But look at comperable models from Colt and Springfield, and decide which YOU like the most.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 9:38:56 AM EDT
[#10]
I have a Dan Wesson Valor and several Colt's pistols.  They are both very well made.  The DW is superior, however, in every way -- fit, finish, accuracy, etc.

You can find Colt's for good prices sometimes.  

If you really want a commander, then the DW V-Bob is your huckleberry.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 2:43:18 PM EDT
[#11]
I was going to write a detailed post comparing my DWs to my Custom Shop Colt with pictures and everything. Not a production pistol sent in to Colt,  but one build in their shop. I started getting my thoughts together, but realized it's pointless.

My advice OP,  buy the pistol you like. They are both fine.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 3:48:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Colt fan here and I have a gun safe full of multiple Colt 1911's.......I do not own a Dan Wesson 1911 but from what I have seen the Heritage and Valor are both very well fit 1911's...buy what feels right

OP: what is your budget? Since Dan Wesson is in play I am going to assume $1000 to $1500?
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:23:39 PM EDT
[#13]
Trying to stay at the 1000 mark, ditched another 1911 because of plaguing problems, so am stepping up the quality this time..I am a no frills kinda guy and the heritage looks like it's what im after.

Local stores only had specialist and valor to play with, damn did that bobtail feel nice...but not the $1500 price tag..lol

To me, the colts trigger seemed not as good, dont like the ambi safety at ,a would have to change, thats a plus for the heritage as its a right hand only..Plus i like the black rear  sight on the DW with nite site/white dot front site.

Now to find a deal on one or wait to see..

WHAT TO DO GUYS?   Anyone see one for less then a $1000 ? The heritage im talking about
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:25:56 PM EDT
[#14]
I am a huge Dan Wesson fan after buying my first Valor. I have a 2nd DW now too :)





Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:31:21 PM EDT
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Trying to stay at the 1000 mark, ditched another 1911 because of plaguing problems, so am stepping up the quality this time..I am a no frills kinda guy and the heritage looks like it's what im after.

Local stores only had specialist and valor to play with, damn did that bobtail feel nice...but not the $1500 price tag..lol

To me, the colts trigger seemed not as good, dont like the ambi safety at ,a would have to change, thats a plus for the heritage as its a right hand only..Plus i like the black rear  sight on the DW with nite site/white dot front site.

Now to find a deal on one or wait to see..

WHAT TO DO GUYS?  Anyone see one for less then a $1000 ? The heritage im talking about
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DW Heritage $999
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:40:56 PM EDT
[#16]



Haha..thats where i seen it..i was off a buck..lol
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:41:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/18/2014 5:55:40 PM EDT
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I was going to write a detailed post comparing my DWs to my Custom Shop Colt with pictures and everything. Not a production pistol sent in to Colt,  but one build in their shop. I started getting my thoughts together, but realized it's pointless.

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Tease...

Atleast post a few pics...come on..
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 6:09:30 PM EDT
[#19]
Hey everyone,

My name is Chad Smith, and I'm the owner of Tooele Shooting Supply and TSSWarehouse.com (the link for the $999 Dan Wesson). I just launched the Warehouse site last week and am still going through some growing pains.

I suddenly saw a bunch of traffic go to that CZ Dan Wesson RZ-45 and realized that the price on that for $999.90 was actually my wholesale cost, rather than sale cost! Long story short, I had to edit the price. It's still on sale, and it's pretty much at the lowest I can stomach without losing money (3% CC fees cut into my profit margin quite a bit, and I don't pass those charges on to you).

However, if anyone was actually interested in it, I've set up a $15 off coupon to give free shipping on that handgun. It's only valid for that product, but if you're interested the code is "DW01981" (no quotes).

Again, I'm sorry for the mix-up and I hope nobody's hopes got too high! Price is now $1,061.90.

-Chad Smith
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 6:14:22 PM EDT
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Hey everyone,

My name is Chad Smith, and I'm the owner of Tooele Shooting Supply and TSSWarehouse.com (the link for the $999 Dan Wesson). I just launched the Warehouse site last week and am still going through some growing pains.

I suddenly saw a bunch of traffic go to that CZ Dan Wesson RZ-45 and realized that the price on that for $999.90 was actually my wholesale cost, rather than sale cost! Long story short, I had to edit the price. It's still on sale, and it's pretty much at the lowest I can stomach without losing money (3% CC fees cut into my profit margin quite a bit, and I don't pass those charges on to you).

However, if anyone was actually interested in it, I've set up a $15 off coupon to give free shipping on that handgun. It's only valid for that product, but if you're interested the code is "DW01981" (no quotes).

Again, I'm sorry for the mix-up and I hope nobody's hopes got too high! Price is now $1,061.90.

-Chad Smith
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Oh man...you put me over the $1k mark...ughhh.....

If you would have honored the original price, i would of probably said lets do it...Let me think on it....Oh and its 1078.99 or something...Buds beats that by a little margin if you play there make an offer game..like 1018 or something

Edit, but thanks for stepping and letting us know, it was still in my cart at the 999.99 price..Waiting for me to checkout...now its $1,079.84
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 6:21:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Yeah... I'm really sorry about that! And for some reason the site caches the prices until it's added to the cart, but if you add it you'll notice the price changes to $1061.90, which would be out-the-door with the $15 off coupon.

Or you're welcome to give me a call at 1-866-471-4867 and I can help you out if it's not working! I definitely can't do $1,018 though, I just can't compete with Buds on their shipping rates (if anyone is interested, UPS requires a 50-package per day shipping amount to qualify for a 2nd-day exemption on handguns, aka impossible to meet for small businesses).

I apologize again, definitely didn't mean to throw a wrench into your plans.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 7:48:52 PM EDT
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Yeah... I'm really sorry about that! And for some reason the site caches the prices until it's added to the cart, but if you add it you'll notice the price changes to $1061.90, which would be out-the-door with the $15 off coupon.

Or you're welcome to give me a call at 1-866-471-4867 and I can help you out if it's not working! I definitely can't do $1,018 though, I just can't compete with Buds on their shipping rates (if anyone is interested, UPS requires a 50-package per day shipping amount to qualify for a 2nd-day exemption on handguns, aka impossible to meet for small businesses).

I apologize again, definitely didn't mean to throw a wrench into your plans.
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You may have made more money in the long run by honoring your "oops."
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 8:12:49 PM EDT
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You may have made more money in the long run by honoring your "oops."
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That's crap.

It's one thing to argue the $999 price if you were able to order it at that price.

It's completely different to tell a business they should lower their price below their profit margin.  The dude even offered free shipping.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 10:05:39 PM EDT
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That's crap.

It's one thing to argue the $999 price if you were able to order it at that price.

It's completely different to tell a business they should lower their price below their profit margin.  The dude even offered free shipping.
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You may have made more money in the long run by honoring your "oops."


That's crap.

It's one thing to argue the $999 price if you were able to order it at that price.

It's completely different to tell a business they should lower their price below their profit margin.  The dude even offered free shipping.


Yes...I can see your true business prowess through your expert use of "dude"
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 11:09:17 PM EDT
[#25]
I will wait for you to open a business and sell DW pistols as loss leaders.
I'll have my CC ready dude
Link Posted: 11/19/2014 4:26:13 AM EDT
[#26]
Look at the Colt Combat elite
Link Posted: 11/19/2014 8:17:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Hummm...Talked to a guy at dan wesson today, i asked if any promoss or what not what scheduled to come up, he oly said if i was thinking about picking up a DW i better hurry, as he said only a couple hundred are slated to be built next year.....Ughh
Link Posted: 11/19/2014 8:43:35 PM EDT
[#28]
I own both and to me it is hands down to get a DW and if in 9mm you need to take a serious look at the PM9.
Link Posted: 11/19/2014 11:04:58 PM EDT
[#29]

I have been very happy with my 4 Colts.  This one is my favorite. I consider it a work of art.
Link Posted: 11/20/2014 8:33:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Nice colt...

I am still stuck on the dan wesson though...just waiting for a good black friday deal from someone or sale..
Link Posted: 11/21/2014 3:03:54 AM EDT
[#31]
I just got a Combat Elite. I am completely impressed with this pistol.
Link Posted: 11/21/2014 4:07:56 AM EDT
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Does anyone like the Dan Wesson ECO?  Never see it mentioned.
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I like my DW ECO the 9mm version actually has a 8rd capacity.


For someone looking for something a little nicer...... Night Hawk does a really nice 9mm 1911.

Link Posted: 11/21/2014 6:14:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Wiley Clapp Government or DW Valor

Either one,

you won't be disappointed.

Fo.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 6:02:46 AM EDT
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Wiley Clapp Government or DW Valor

Either one,

you won't be disappointed.

Fo.
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of course i like either of those, but more then i want to spend right now
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 7:41:55 AM EDT
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Hummm...Talked to a guy at dan wesson today, i asked if any promoss or what not what scheduled to come up, he oly said if i was thinking about picking up a DW i better hurry, as he said only a couple hundred are slated to be built next year.....Ughh
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Did he mean only a couple hundred Valors?  If so, then I wouldn't worry.  That's usually what is made anyway.  DW is expanding their offerings actually and even made a Facebook announcement about it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 8:23:38 AM EDT
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Hey everyone,

My name is Chad Smith, and I'm the owner of Tooele Shooting Supply and TSSWarehouse.com (the link for the $999 Dan Wesson). I just launched the Warehouse site last week and am still going through some growing pains.

I suddenly saw a bunch of traffic go to that CZ Dan Wesson RZ-45 and realized that the price on that for $999.90 was actually my wholesale cost, rather than sale cost! Long story short, I had to edit the price. It's still on sale, and it's pretty much at the lowest I can stomach without losing money (3% CC fees cut into my profit margin quite a bit, and I don't pass those charges on to you).

However, if anyone was actually interested in it, I've set up a $15 off coupon to give free shipping on that handgun. It's only valid for that product, but if you're interested the code is "DW01981" (no quotes).

Again, I'm sorry for the mix-up and I hope nobody's hopes got too high! Price is now $1,061.90.

-Chad Smith
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That's pretty awesome of you.

I don't see any Dan Wesson pistols losted on your website. Do you have any in 10mm?
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 10:45:49 AM EDT
[#37]
I have been nothing but happy with my DW (I have the CCO though) I liked it much better than the colt CCO and had looked at both.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 6:45:04 PM EDT
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Did he mean only a couple hundred Valors?  If so, then I wouldn't worry.  That's usually what is made anyway.  DW is expanding their offerings actually and even made a Facebook announcement about it.
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Hummm...Talked to a guy at dan wesson today, i asked if any promoss or what not what scheduled to come up, he oly said if i was thinking about picking up a DW i better hurry, as he said only a couple hundred are slated to be built next year.....Ughh


Did he mean only a couple hundred Valors?  If so, then I wouldn't worry.  That's usually what is made anyway.  DW is expanding their offerings actually and even made a Facebook announcement about it.



Not sure he only said " i better hurry as only a couple hundred for 2015 are slated for build"

Now exactly what he was saying as the one model or all i am not sure, has to be each model
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 7:41:49 PM EDT
[#39]
I just put DW Razorback on layway.
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 9:33:59 AM EDT
[#40]
damnit...too order it now or wait to see if somewhere has a sale this week/weekend....I am impatient..lol....
Link Posted: 11/24/2014 1:36:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Rest assured that whichever DW you end up getting, you will have an excellent pistol.
Link Posted: 12/4/2014 9:42:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Update

Grabbed a dan wesson heritage last black friday and am looking at swapping out the plain grips on it.

I like the looks of the DW shadow grips and just looking to see who knows if they will slide right on or need longer screws   or ?
Link Posted: 12/4/2014 10:21:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Grip screws should be fine, did the swap on my CBOB http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/kirk22-250/Guns/7befab60.jpg
Link Posted: 12/4/2014 10:30:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Cool...Nice looking piece.. i can see one DW will not be enough, can see a cbob/vbob or guardian in the future...lol

BTW...How do you like the grips? Are those the skinny or thick ? as i heard they have different thickness ones.




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Link Posted: 12/4/2014 11:52:32 PM EDT
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Heritage pistols come with standard thickness grips

Slim grips will require new screws and bushings
Link Posted: 12/5/2014 8:54:04 AM EDT
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Cool...Nice looking piece.. i can see one DW will not be enough, can see a cbob/vbob or guardian in the future...lol

BTW...How do you like the grips? Are those the skinny or thick ? as i heard they have different thickness ones.






http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/kirk22-250/Guns/7befab60.jpg


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Cool...Nice looking piece.. i can see one DW will not be enough, can see a cbob/vbob or guardian in the future...lol

BTW...How do you like the grips? Are those the skinny or thick ? as i heard they have different thickness ones.




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Grip screws should be fine, did the swap on my CBOB http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/kirk22-250/Guns/7befab60.jpg


http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/kirk22-250/Guns/7befab60.jpg



The shadow grips on the cbob are standard size and I prefer them over the stock cocobolo grips.
And yes it's hard to stop at just one.
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