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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:00:08 PM
I had a coworker just sell me a Colt 70 series Gov't Model which is trashed. Nothing is known about the history except it was made in 1972 and isn't stolen. Everything seems OK except that the finish is fubared and the barrel looks like no one has ever cleaned it. I don't know squat about 1911's and wanted something to learn on. I was thinking about either upgrading it with a new beavertail, hammer, springs, barrel, etc. or refinishing to original. I've worked on building AK's and AR's but nothing like this.

So what should I do with this?










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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:47:26 PM
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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:53:11 PM
I'd have the slide milled for Novak cuts, add 10-8 sights, a beavertail, commander hammer then strip, bead blast and parkerize it.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:03:46 PM
Originally Posted By Hebrew_Battle_Rifle:
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:04:19 PM
What SGB said.

It's a good candidate for a rebuild to shooter status.

Get good quality internal parts as necessary and go for it.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:06:44 PM
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I'd have the slide milled for Novak cuts, add 10-8 sights, a beavertail, commander hammer then strip, bead blast and parkerize it.


I'm leaning toward this. I plan on seeing what I can do to clean the barrel later today after my honey-do list is done.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:12:09 PM
Perfect CCW weapon, strip it, clean it, park it, put some updated sights on it and make sure it's reliable and use it as a carry weapon.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:31:41 PM
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Originally Posted By huge_gator:
Originally Posted By Hebrew_Battle_Rifle:
http://s5.tinypic.com/2nqhdhk_th.jpg .......... take it to IM - SGB


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What is this for? I didn't offer anything or post a link.
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So....I got some Chore Boy copper scrubbers and will go to town on that barrel after I soak it in Kroil for a while. I'll post pics of the results.

I have a can of Duracoat and know how to use it Is there a way of prepping this without blasting and parking?

Also, any directions for resources to do the drop in work like a beavertail and hammer set up?

Keep in mind, my only experience with 1911's are having owned a Llama 9mm knock-off which never ran right, a Rock Island which never ran right and a GSG .22 which I blame for leading me down this path since it runs so right
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Posted: 9/16/2012 3:56:16 PM
Finding someone with a bead blasting cabinet should not be difficult. There are a plethora of small shops that service industrial tools that would have such a set up. Once blasted, a scrub in denatured alcohol to remove the dust and you are set for a duracoat job. Parkerizing is preferred, but not absolutely necessary for a good finish.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:32:06 PM
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So....I got some Chore Boy copper scrubbers and will go to town on that barrel after I soak it in Kroil for a while. I'll post pics of the results.

I have a can of Duracoat and know how to use it Is there a way of prepping this without blasting and parking?

Also, any directions for resources to do the drop in work like a beavertail and hammer set up?

Keep in mind, my only experience with 1911's are having owned a Llama 9mm knock-off which never ran right, a Rock Island which never ran right and a GSG .22 which I blame for leading me down this path since it runs so right



You can do the beaver tail and hammer yourself. Wilson Combat makes a decent product for both. Search Youtube, and you'll find tons of videos providing instruction for replacing both.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 7:49:04 PM
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Here is what I would do:

1. Have it sand blasted and parkerized;

2. Install a Cylinder and Slide hammer set;

3. Install a Brown extended thumb safety;

4. Install checkered walnut grips;

5. Clean the bore thoroughly with Wipe Out;

6. Get rid of the finger style barrel bushing. Replace with a solid barrel bushing.

7. Enjoy.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 12:24:32 AM
Check out Colt's custom shop. Their prices are pretty reasonable and they can get it all fixed up for you and put on the finish you want...and it's all still Colt.

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Posted: 9/17/2012 12:36:52 AM
It looks like it has been in a fire.
Maybe its just an illusion from the camera flash.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 2:17:35 AM

Originally Posted By VAPORTRAIL:
It looks like it has been in a fire.
Maybe its just an illusion from the camera flash.

Looks more to me like it got soaked with something mildly acidic like juice.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 2:25:19 AM
get all new internals and have a "melt" job done so its smooth like a bar of soap
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Posted: 9/17/2012 2:51:15 AM
Send it to colt
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Posted: 9/17/2012 10:51:26 AM
I have become a 'minimalist'. I would detail-strip, clean and inspect it. I possibly would use a spray and bake coating, maybe just black. Blasting prep is very nice but thorough cleaning and hand wire-brushing has always worked for me. Most likely I would replace the recoil and firing pin springs and possibly the grips (hate wrap-arounds).
The best compromise on appearance and preservation of markings is a light blast and Manganese Phosphate.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 4:47:01 PM
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Send it to colt


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Posted: 9/17/2012 5:28:42 PM
Originally Posted By SGB:
I'd have the slide milled for Novak cuts, add 10-8 sights, a beavertail, commander hammer then strip, bead blast and parkerize it.


AND replace the bushing and the thumb safety.

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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:13:09 PM
Here is one I'm tinkering with to give you some ideas.

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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:28:34 PM
Internally it looks prety good, but beat to hell outside. How much did that run you If I may ask?
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:46:31 PM
Ooh, that's nice

I don't want to send it to Colt as I want to do as much of it as I can myself. I really want to make this pistol something I'd never think of getting rid of ever and hand it down someday.

I have been cleaning the barrel since yesterday. Pics don't do justice to just how foul it is. I am alternating Nitro Solvent, Hoppe's 9 and CLP and brushing like mad. I've got a nice pile of nasty patches and a couple spent brushes so far

I talked with my coworker today. Apparently the whole thing was damn near rusted shut and he soaked it in diesel for two weeks just to move the slide. He then tried to shape it up to what you see now. The area above the grip safety on the right side is what he said the whole thing looked like. I wish I would have had a shot at it before he did. I like the electrolysis results and I think a lot of the major etching was due to the clean-up.

So what about the sights? Is there a good DIY option or do I need a smith for the job?
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:59:15 PM
On mine I ordered the Harrison retro GI rear sight and installed it myself. The front is Novak. I sent it to them to dovetail the slide, install the correct height front sight and sight in. The rest I have done myself. It now sports black G10 Davidson grips and a long 3 hole trigger. The Wilson ambi safety I reshaped and fitted myself just to play with the design. The ignition set is a Harrison bobbed hammer set. The trigger job, Gold Cup serrations, and reblue will be done by a real smith. It has been a learning experience. I would love to build one someday.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 10:57:01 PM
[Last Edit: 9/17/2012 11:02:41 PM by warp_foo]

Originally Posted By Banshee35:
Check out Colt's custom shop. Their prices are pretty reasonable and they can get it all fixed up for you and put on the finish you want...and it's all still Colt.

Click on the third one down here

I came here to post this. Why do so many folks want to fsck up a nice Series 70 with a park job?

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ETA: I guess I need to come clean... I have MKIV S70 that I had parked. Of course, I also had it converted to a MEU(SOC) clone:






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Posted: 9/18/2012 10:25:54 PM
A MEU-SOC on a Series 70? Hey, that's cool! First one like that I've seen or heard of. The MEU-SOC purists would hate that, but I like it. They think their letter-perfect reproductions are the cat's ass, but the bottom line is, all of them, even the ones using a real 'U.S. Property' frame, are only reproductions, and as such, have no standing whatsoever. So, a pistol that looks like a MEU-SOC, based on a Government Model, a Springfield, a Taurus or anything else, is okay. The next craze has already started - tan-painted rail guns to look like the new Colt CQBP.
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