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Posted: 9/6/2012 6:50:08 PM
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Posted: 9/6/2012 7:04:00 PM
rock island
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97tjgunner
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Posted: 9/6/2012 7:21:04 PM
Rock island awesome starter 1911. Get the tactical so it already has the beaver tail and better sights. You will not be disappointed. I have owned a gi and tactical.
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boltaction-alchemist
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Posted: 9/6/2012 7:46:33 PM
[Last Edit: 9/6/2012 7:46:51 PM by boltaction-alchemist]
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment-
"Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun..  |
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97tjgunner
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Posted: 9/6/2012 9:07:42 PM
Don't be scared keep it lubed it will be fine. There not super tight custom guns just read up on rock island you will see tons of positive reviews. Both of mine shot thousands of rounds. The GI was my first pistol at 21 I shot at least 500-1000 rounds a month for over a year without knowing a thing about taking care of a 1911 just lubed the rails occasionally never had a malfunction that I remember. The Tac I didn't shoot as much but still never had any issues. They are great guns and I recommend them to all my friends who want to try a 1911
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LARRYG
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Posted: 9/6/2012 9:14:29 PM
Originally Posted By boltaction-alchemist:
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment- "Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun.. One fucking guy who probably doesn't like 1911s to start with. He is one of these "a 1911 must be expensive to work right" know-it-alls. I have RIA Tactical and a GI, an SR1911, and an old Norinco. They all run great and require no more care than any other handgun I own. They are all bone stock except for the grips on the two RIAs. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 10:14:23 PM
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By boltaction-alchemist:
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment- "Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun.. One fucking guy who probably doesn't like 1911s to start with. He is one of these "a 1911 must be expensive to work right" know-it-alls. I have RIA Tactical and a GI, an SR1911, and an old Norinco. They all run great and require no more care than any other handgun I own. They are all bone stock except for the grips on the two RIAs. The days of sub $1k 1911s being unreliable are long gone. It used to be if it wasn't a Colt , specially a well worked one, or a custom piece you have a jam-o-matic. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 10:15:58 PM
RIA, doesnt get much better for $500
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Posted: 9/6/2012 10:26:16 PM
I have owned several rockislands not 1 problem !
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Iam2taz
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Posted: 9/6/2012 11:09:04 PM
Get the RIA. Person who wrote the blog is just jealous because his $2000 (you name the brand) is a POS and he got beat at a match by a guy shooting a $450 pistol.
The other side of that is that if you decide you don't care for the 1911 platform, you can almost certainly get most of your money back. Just sayin' |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 1:00:18 AM
Rock Islands are very difficult to beat, in that price range. Norinco is another excellent choice, if you can find one in good shape for a decent price.
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LARRYG
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Posted: 9/7/2012 6:58:55 AM
Originally Posted By lovecraftfan:
Rock Islands are very difficult to beat, in that price range. Norinco is another excellent choice, if you can find one in good shape for a decent price. As far as I am concerned, they are very difficult to beat in any price range. They may not be as fancy dancy as some others, but they work and that is all that matters to me. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 8:03:58 AM
[Last Edit: 9/7/2012 8:05:29 AM by peligro113]
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By boltaction-alchemist:
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment- "Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun.. One fucking guy who probably doesn't like 1911s to start with. He is one of these "a 1911 must be expensive to work right" know-it-alls. I have RIA Tactical and a GI, an SR1911, and an old Norinco. They all run great and require no more care than any other handgun I own. They are all bone stock except for the grips on the two RIAs. Larry if you could only have one of your 1911's which one would would it be? |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 8:04:31 AM
Originally Posted By boltaction-alchemist:
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment- "Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun.. It sounds like he is suggesting a Glock or a revolver. Any other automatic will jam also if you don't take care of it and use cheap mags, ect. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 8:30:57 AM
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By lovecraftfan:
Rock Islands are very difficult to beat, in that price range. Norinco is another excellent choice, if you can find one in good shape for a decent price. As far as I am concerned, they are very difficult to beat in any price range. They may not be as fancy dancy as some others, but they work and that is all that matters to me. pretty much this.......I see them here occasionally less than $400... |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:10:51 AM
[Last Edit: 9/7/2012 9:16:41 AM by RJK]
Originally Posted By 97tjgunner:
Rock island awesome starter 1911. Get the tactical so it already has the beaver tail and better sights. You will not be disappointed. I have owned a gi and tactical. shoot the piss out of it. +1 My RIA Tactical shoots right alongside my Colt XSE and Ruger SR1911. Of course I can't compare it to my Les Baer but it was only 1/5 of the cost. I've got over 800 rounds through my current Tactical and over 1500 through my previous one without a single malfunction. I got my latest Tactical from Davidson's through a local FFL for $480 out the door. I've not had the need to use it but others rave about great customer service from RIA/Armscor. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:30:20 AM
I have used a RIA Tac 9mm for over a year in IDPA. I have had exactly 4 malfunctions in about 2300 rounds (all 115 or 124 ball). 2 were me improperly seating the mag and 2 were due to the gun being filthy since I had not cleaned it in over 500 rounds of my lead reloads.
Better still, it is one of my most accurate handguns. It will shoot 1.5 inches off a bag at 20 yards with multiple loads. I also have a Tac 45 and a Tac style Officer model. They have not been shot as much but they have over 500 rounds in each. Neither has ever had an issue with factory ammo. The Officer seems to have a slightly tight chamber so my handloads had to me crimped a tiny bit tighter to behave in it. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:19:00 AM
The problem we see regularly is the guy who buys a Rock Island (which is unbelievably good for the price) pistol and then gets the cheapest possible magazines to run in it.
Guys who spend $450 for a pistol seem to be disinclined to spend $30 for a good magazine. All the serious competitors I know have more than $450 in their magazines –– way more. A 1911 is dependent on good ammunition and good magazines. No expense can be spared in acquiring these two things. But, the duffer who prides himself on buying a functional 1911 for under $500 is rarely willing to purchase the quality magazines and ammunition that are necessary for making it run consistently. Summary: Rock Island is a good pistol that won't run with shitty magazines. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:24:46 AM
[Last Edit: 9/7/2012 6:35:50 PM by LARRYG]
Originally Posted By peligro113:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By boltaction-alchemist:
Ive been reading more since ive posted and im getting cold feet because of this Blog- specifically this comment- "Its great that you are able to maintain your 1911 and make it run reliably. Because you do that, I’m going to say that chances are, you love guns and have put in some time learning how to maintain them. However, instructors don’t just teach gun enthusiasts. They don’t just teach people who are mechanically inclined. For the AVERAGE STUDENT, 1911s are a bad choice. For the AVERAGE STUDENT that gun gets put in a drawer, or in a holster, and honestly, probably only gets shot once a month or so in a range day. For the AVERAGE STUDENT a 1911 will malfunction because the AVERAGE STUDENT is not able to put in the expense to buy a high end gun, and then won’t maintain it." Im still 50/50 but this guy dedicated a whole blog to persuading people not to buy this gun.. One fucking guy who probably doesn't like 1911s to start with. He is one of these "a 1911 must be expensive to work right" know-it-alls. I have RIA Tactical and a GI, an SR1911, and an old Norinco. They all run great and require no more care than any other handgun I own. They are all bone stock except for the grips on the two RIAs. Larry if you could only have one of your 1911's which one would would it be? Probably my SR1911, BUT I would be content with any one of the four I own. They all work great. I do shoot the SR1911 just a tiny bit better than the RIA Tactical. They both have very good sights. The Norinco and RIA basic have GI type sights and I shoot both a little high. No, I ain't talkin' bout having a buzz when I shoot them.  |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:29:24 AM
Originally Posted By RugRat:
The problem we see regularly is the guy who buys a Rock Island (which is unbelievably good for the price) pistol and then gets the cheapest possible magazines to run in it. Guys who spend $450 for a pistol seem to be disinclined to spend $30 for a good magazine. All the serious competitors I know have more than $450 in their magazines –– way more. A 1911 is dependent on good ammunition and good magazines. No expense can be spared in acquiring these two things. But, the duffer who prides himself on buying a functional 1911 for under $500 is rarely willing to purchase the quality magazines and ammunition that are necessary for making it run consistently. Summary: Rock Island is a good pistol that won't run with shitty magazines. Kind of a broad brush, ain't it. I bought a shitload of Wilson Combat and Chip McCormick mags for my 1911s. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:37:20 AM
"Summary: Rock Island is a good pistol that won't run with shitty magazines."
If your mags are shit, your 1911 has about the same chance of running if you spent over 5k on a full custom or 250 on a truck gun. that chance is zero. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 12:26:01 PM
Thompson Auto Ordinance 1911A1 by Kahr... I wouldn't risk buying a pre-Kahr Auto Ordinance. If you look on page 2 you will see a review of the one I just got.
However if you are looking for the trendy bells and whistles like skeletonized hammer and whatnot RIA is your best bet at that price point.. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 6:32:47 PM
Originally Posted By joshglock:
Thompson Auto Ordinance 1911A1 by Kahr... I wouldn't risk buying a pre-Kahr Auto Ordinance. If you look on page 2 you will see a review of the one I just got. However if you are looking for the trendy bells and whistles like skeletonized hammer and whatnot RIA is your best bet at that price point.. RIA has a basic for less than the Tactical and it's pretty much a GI type service pistol. Not trendy. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:39:02 PM
I bought a GI style RIA, I'm still fucking loving it. May not be as great as the expensive ones (man I wish I could find out), but it's a great pistol and fun as all hell. Besides, if you don't like it, plenty of people out there will buy it off of you.
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Posted: 9/8/2012 8:59:25 AM
in new recent production guns the RIA is tough to best. I myself will not own a foreign made 1911- maybe I am a snob but a classic American design needs to be made in the states. If you are patient and hunt dilligently you can find used Colts in the 600 dollar range. I have bought 3 Colts in the last five years- a 70 series 9mm, a 1991A1 and a combat government- all cost me less than 700 bucks. I subsequently sold the 1991 and combat government for much more than I paid and still gave the new owner a good deal. I am not much for buying brand new guns- I find I've had real good luck holding out for finding what I want used for good prices.
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Posted: 9/8/2012 9:00:14 AM
I bought a GI (full size) RIA after already owning a Springfield mil-spec, a Springfield Loaded, a Les Baer SRP,and two Colt XSE's, but before my Wilson CQB.
I love that gun. I don't always bring all of my 1911's to the range (actually almost never) but the RIA always makes the trip. Don't know why - I think that gun just reminds me of me. Not the best pedigree but still kicking ass right along with the big names. 
Best bang for the buck out there. Buy it and dont look back. Also, while the mag that came with it is fine, I also would suggest some quality mags. IMO, thats always a wise investment. Good luck. |
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