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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:44:58 AM

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I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:00:33 AM
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shot my single stacks and Para, with 22# springs for years.... they take a set to about 18# over time....had to thumb cock the hammer, but never had a problem chambering a round ... I perceived that the heavier spring negated a lot of the muzzle flip, and came back on target quick YMMV.... I quit using shock buffs... was shooting a hand load 230 grain fmj at about 800fps
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:09:55 AM
Just keep the 18.5 in there and if you get any short stroking then go back to the 16.

BTW, I leave 16s in my Colts. If I have to fire off a mag of +p in self defense I'm sure it won't hurt the gun, which will surely be confiscated anyway.

Long term, continual use of hot ammo is a reason to step up your recoil spring weight. I use the appropriate, original design FPS though on all of my 1911s.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:15:04 AM
To heavy of a recoil spring will also cause the front sight to dip down low when the gun goes into battery, slowing your splits. I'd spring the gun for the ammo you shoot the most of.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:42:31 AM
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
To heavy of a recoil spring will also cause the front sight to dip down low when the gun goes into battery, slowing your splits. I'd spring the gun for the ammo you shoot the most of.


Noticing stuff like that is WAY beyond my pistol shooting ability. Nice to know.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:49:13 AM
On the advice of Hilton Yam, I threw an 18.5 Wolf Spring not my E Series 1911 TA and haven't had a malfunction of a kind for just over 1000 rounds of 230 grain FMJ including fifty rounds of Tula, plenty of Speer Lawman, but mostly PMC Bronze.

Previous spring was a 17.5 pound Wilson which ran perfectly for 950 rounds of Lawman and PMC Bronze.

The 16 pound OEM S&W springs lose their resistance in about 400 rounds which is too bad because I bought quite a few of them from Midway for about $2.89@.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 1:30:56 PM
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?





switch back to 16lbs
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Posted: 8/7/2012 4:01:59 PM
Originally Posted By reelserious:
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?





switch back to 16lbs


I'm kinda leaning that way I think I'll just buy a new spring cause the factory one is over 30 years old...
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Posted: 8/7/2012 4:15:48 PM
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
Originally Posted By reelserious:
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?





switch back to 16lbs


I'm kinda leaning that way I think I'll just buy a new spring cause the factory one is over 30 years old...


Not a bad idea, spring are only good for about 5,000 rounds down the pipe.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 4:29:52 PM
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
Originally Posted By reelserious:
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?





switch back to 16lbs


I'm kinda leaning that way I think I'll just buy a new spring cause the factory one is over 30 years old...


Pick up a few Wolff 16s, you won't regret it.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 5:48:34 PM
I've run 18.5 springs for yearsssssss with no problem.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 6:30:03 PM
I use 14 pound Wolff recoil springs in my 5 inch 1911's with 100% reliability.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 9:04:21 PM
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I installed a Wolff 18.5# recoil spring because my carry load was 230 gr +p and I didn't want to beat up the gun
Now I'm just shooting ball ammo bc it's not a carry gun anymore.
It seems to shoot fine but do u think I should swap in a standard spring to ensure reliability with some of the weaker target ammo?


Revert back to factory spring weight.........If you are not running plus p anymore.........I ran 20lb.......for years using plus p and never had a hiccup.........
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:35:24 PM
The 18.5 isn't enough to degrade accuracy or speed over the 16 in a 5 inch gun shooting standard FMJ. If anything, it is a small bit of insurance that you may still have sufficient spring weight for the firearm to cycle in the case of inadvertently leaving one in long enough to have it start to go bad. We all want to change them on that magical 5000 round benchmark, but many of us forget, and sometimes springs don't decide to get weak on that 5000th round. Sometimes they go, even good ones, on 4000 or 4500, and some last much longer if you accidentally forget and put an extra 5000 thinking you changed it. Either way, if it weakens to a 16lb spring at 4500 rounds, you still have a functioning firearm, with a 16lb weakening to 14lbs you may have some not go into battery completely. Not something you want when you really need it. It won't be over sprung in a 2.5lb increment. A 20# might be.

I have run 18.5# for years on everything GI sized on recommendation from several smiths, locally, and nationally known. I don't think you can really hurt anything. There are two schools of thought on it, but in my personal experience, it has been a plus to run the 18.5lb.

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