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Posted: 7/2/2012 1:41:49 PM
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THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I have a damascus steel Bowie knife, this is the first time I have seen damascus steel slides for the 1911 pistols. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 1:49:13 PM
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I could only stand the guys in the video for about 30 seconds before I had to shut it off......
Nice gun though...... |
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ArmaNotSoLite
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:06:20 PM
Caspian does some pretty nice damascus slides.
Not sure if thats what the video is about, because it's not showing up for me. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:16:27 PM
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Damascus slides as far as I know are only available through Caspian for $822.40.
Caspian also offers, off catalog. Left handed bar stock slides for $2k. |
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ken_mays
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:43:22 PM
Damascus slides have been around for over 10 years. I have an old American Handgunner around here somewhere with a Fred Craig custom on the cover.
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FortyFiveAutomatic
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:57:07 PM
Damascus slides are bad ass.
I'd like a Damascus slide/frame 1911, but Im not sure anyone does frames. |
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Billy_Dee
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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:09:58 PM
Are these actual damascus? Or are they just like.......simulated?
(I always thought damascus was too weak for modern cartridges) (like the old shotgun bbls?) |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:16:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Billy_Dee:
Are these actual damascus? Or are they just like.......simulated? (I always thought damascus was too weak for modern cartridges) (like the old shotgun bbls?) I sold one a while back: 
The slide is made of a layered steel, but I'm not sure that the patterning you see on the outside of the slide is a result of this since it is not completely smooth. If you look inside, you can still see the layers, but it is much more subtle. |
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ken_mays
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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:48:59 PM
Originally Posted By Billy_Dee:
Are these actual damascus? Or are they just like.......simulated? (I always thought damascus was too weak for modern cartridges) (like the old shotgun bbls?) They're actual damascus. Today's metallurgy is far beyond those old damascus barrel shotguns, and nobody's talking about using them for barrels on 1911s anyway. Slides and frames would be good to go. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:48:24 AM
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By Billy_Dee:
Are these actual damascus? Or are they just like.......simulated? (I always thought damascus was too weak for modern cartridges) (like the old shotgun bbls?) They're actual damascus. Today's metallurgy is far beyond those old damascus barrel shotguns, and nobody's talking about using them for barrels on 1911s anyway. Slides and frames would be good to go. Damascus shotgun barrels weren't made of the same steel that "Damascus" knife blades or pistol slides are. "Damascus" barrels were actually made of tightly wound wire wherein the second layer was fiitted over the first extremely tightly by means of making it from a shorter length of wire than the layer beneath it which created extreme tension and held it together. I've had a few Damascus shotguns, and they were black powder only. Today's etched "Damascus" steel used in firearms and knife blades isn't the same as the true Damascus steel of ancient times which was used to manufacture incredibly sharp and flexible swords. The original process has been lost in time, today's version is only a simulation. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:26:59 AM
So whats the difference between damascus and and steel used for samurai swords?
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:18:24 AM
Caspian uses 2 different types of powder steel to get the pattern, not the same. As posted true Dam steel is a lost/forgotten skill.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:22:57 AM
No thanks
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Posted: 7/3/2012 4:28:11 PM
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Originally Posted By America-first:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By Billy_Dee:
Are these actual damascus? Or are they just like.......simulated? (I always thought damascus was too weak for modern cartridges) (like the old shotgun bbls?) They're actual damascus. Today's metallurgy is far beyond those old damascus barrel shotguns, and nobody's talking about using them for barrels on 1911s anyway. Slides and frames would be good to go. Damascus shotgun barrels weren't made of the same steel that "Damascus" knife blades or pistol slides are. "Damascus" barrels were actually made of tightly wound wire wherein the second layer was fiitted over the first extremely tightly by means of making it from a shorter length of wire than the layer beneath it which created extreme tension and held it together. I've had a few Damascus shotguns, and they were black powder only. Today's etched "Damascus" steel used in firearms and knife blades isn't the same as the true Damascus steel of ancient times which was used to manufacture incredibly sharp and flexible swords. The original process has been lost in time, today's version is only a simulation. exactly and you will often hear the old timers refer to them as "wire twist" barrels.. eta: here is the best pic I have on hand of my 1894 Remington 16 gauge showing the Damascus barrels and the pattern.... 
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:27:03 PM
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Caspian uses 2 different types of powder steel to get the pattern, not the same. As posted true Dam steel is a lost/forgotten skill. Caspian gets their Damascus bar stock from the Swedish company Damasteel AB. Damasteel offers different types based on hardness and application. You'll note that they even show a center-fire rifle barrel in their gallery. http://damasteel.com/?page_id=28 |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 8:26:54 PM
clark customs builds damascus pistols from to to time. absolutely beautiful guns. far out of my price range tho
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Posted: 7/6/2012 6:05:35 PM
Thanks for the lesson on Damascus guys, found answers to all the things I wondered about.
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Posted: 7/6/2012 8:30:42 PM
Rwl34 was what i was thinking of.
Originally Posted By dewatters:
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Caspian uses 2 different types of powder steel to get the pattern, not the same. As posted true Dam steel is a lost/forgotten skill. Caspian gets their Damascus bar stock from the Swedish company Damasteel AB. Damasteel offers different types based on hardness and application. You'll note that they even show a center-fire rifle barrel in their gallery. http://damasteel.com/?page_id=28 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 11:12:32 PM
"So whats the difference between damascus and and steel used for samurai swords?"
Sword damascus in the truest form is a "softer" more flexible steel back, forged to a "harder" edge. This is done to allow the sword to bend and flex during usage yet maintain a sharp edge. Decorative damascus whether it is random or pattern is merely forging two different alloy steels together then applying an acid etch that reacts to the two alloys at a different rate creating the contrast. Damascus can wear off with holster use like any bluing or steel finish application requiring a re etch. |
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