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Posted: 5/14/2017 9:38:34 AM EDT
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The question you need to ask yourself is why do are you thinking about switching?
I'm not much of a .40 fan, never have been. That said, if it works for you, why change? All of the "major" handgun cartridges are within the same range of effectiveness with the right ammunition. The .40 has always been a compromise between 9x19 and .45 ACP. If that compromise works for you there is no real need to change. If you just want a .45 I understand that, but no reason to dump the .40 in the process. I only have one .40 and no real plans to buy anymore, but I keep the single .40 anyway. The rest of my pistols are 9x19 and .45 ACP with a couple of .380s thrown in also. Variety is the spice of life. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 9:40:22 AM EDT
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Much less snappy a 45ACP compared to a 40.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 9:45:33 AM EDT
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"you can't shoot it well"... that's enough of a reason to make a change right there. Not everyone can shoot every caliber/platform combination well. It just a physiological fact that your hand/arm/eye is not the same as the next person's, and one platform/caliber may work better for you than another.
Have you tried a USP in 9 or 45? You should pinpoint if its the caliber or the platform that you have problems with. Once you know that, you know what part needs to change. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 9:53:52 AM EDT
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Since you don't shoot it well move it down the road. You would probably be better off going with a 9mm. Basically 9=40=45 with the good loads out there now. You have to make good hits and be comfortable and confident with whatever you choose.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 10:07:31 AM EDT
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I enjoy the .45 cartridge, yes I'm a 1911 guy but i shoot the cartridge well.
I too couldn't shoot my USP worth a flip. I have no idea why. I just couldn't. My first was in 9mm , I have it another go years later with a .40. I loved looking at them. But just never got the results I could with other weapons. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 10:23:39 AM EDT
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.45
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Posted: 5/14/2017 10:44:06 AM EDT
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You'd have a hard time giving 40 away right now.
Try a different pistol to see if you shoot it any better and burn up the stash of 40. When it's gone, standardize on 9mm. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:03:13 AM EDT
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You'd have a hard time giving 40 away right now. Try a different pistol to see if you shoot it any better and burn up the stash of 40. When it's gone, standardize on 9mm. Back to the popularity thing... now, it seems to be the 9X19 and .45. Back to the OP, bottom line, if you don't shoot your current .40 well, try the .45. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 12:08:51 PM EDT
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People don't like it because of the snappy recoil, reduced capacity vs a 9mm.
40 is really popular is in USPSA Limited Major. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:31:45 PM EDT
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Hk USP 45 Tactical or good ole 1911 for your 45 needs.
CZ SP01 Tactical in 40 for, well, your 40 stockpile.
For me this equals awesomeness. Thank me later 
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:38:15 PM EDT
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Much less snappy a 45ACP compared to a 40. I am a reloader and .40 never was on my radar after initial case design/defects were blowing up guns. I am glad I don't have to switch to .45. I started collecting them before 1989. My second one and now the one I have had the longest is the Smith Model 625-2. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Get a 45 if you want car doors to stop your rounds
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:51:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Sell all 40 S&W inventory.
Replace with 9mm. Be happy. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:53:27 PM EDT
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If you can't shoot them well then ditch em and move onto something else. No reason to stick with them really. Police trade in .40's are cheap so you could easily try something new in that caliber if you don't want to jump ship.
Personally I have no attraction to .40 S&W. I have been tempted by the cheap surplus/trade ins but not enough to actually make the leap. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 2:12:00 PM EDT
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40 to 45 does not make much sense. Less capacity, cost increase, and the higher recoil rounds vs 9. 9 is where most are migrating from 40 not 45. 9 also opens up vast choices in pistol selection and cost to shoot. 9 wins for me because I can shoot so much more for the cost of ammo. If I can shoot 500 rounds vs 250-300 for about the same cost that is much more valuable.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 3:44:14 PM EDT
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Stop buying 40 and worry about selling the pistol when the ammo is all gone
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Posted: 5/14/2017 4:00:56 PM EDT
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Get a 45 if you want car doors to stop your rounds  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 4:31:20 PM EDT
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Get a 45 if you want car doors to stop your rounds  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5JQnjCW3I
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Posted: 5/14/2017 4:50:44 PM EDT
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To me, reliability in a 1911 is the only reason to consider 45.
For actual usin' pistols, 9mm. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 5:00:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2017 5:32:49 PM EDT
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I bought a Springfield xd 40 tactical (5" barrel) as my 1st handgun when I turned 21. That was 14 years ago. I had absolutely no knowledge about handguns or anyone to give me legitimate advice.
It didn't shoot bad, I just wasn't that impressed with it and when I could afford it I upgraded to HK. I don't think I had a problem shooting that xd. I've never had a problem with 1911's, .38 revolvers, 9mm Sig 229 or the m9. I just can't shoot this USPc well. It could take me a lifetime to go through my .40 stash. Which is one of the reasons I am considering sticking with it. That and .40 handguns are cheaper I was thinking the longer barrel and extra mass of a full size handgun, or lower bore axis of the CZ'S would help out a ton |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 5:44:54 PM EDT
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I moved to .40 when it was the only thing available during the last big drought. A pair of Glock 22 Gen 4s were my go to guns. With practice, I shot them just as well as my Glock 19s and 17s. Eventually, the drought ended and I moved back to 9mm for a number of reasons. If you like .40, there's no significant reason to change. Just try a different platform.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:15:53 PM EDT
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Usually if you do not shoot a caliber well it can be the gun not the caliber.
In 45 acp, I shoot and carry 1911's from compact to full size. I had a Hk 45 usp compact that I sot well but I traded for a rifle. I also shoot and carry a sig p220 and 245. Again I shoot the sigs well. In 9mm I use a Cz p07 and sig p320. I hit well with both. I found the p320 in 40 handles real well. I also have a p229 and p239 in forty with 357 sig barrels for switching out. Again I shoot them well. All the above settle nicely in my hand and comes to a natural point of aim for me. What does not work for me are the xd pistols, high cycle axis above the hand and rugers pistols. I can not hit the side of a barn with them. Go to a range that rents different manufacturers for the forty and try them. You may find one that works for you. |
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Posted: 5/15/2017 11:31:55 PM EDT
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You indicate that you're thinking about "moving up to .45," why not bypass .45 and move up to 10mm? With full power loads it's much more effective than any 9mm, .40, or .45. Check out Underwood Ammo for full power 10mm rounds.
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Posted: 5/15/2017 11:49:49 PM EDT
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I love 9mm and 45acp for pistols no doubt about it. I would probably go for 9mm to replace your 40S&W. Less recoil, more rounds, similar lethality, cheaper more available ammo. Maybe pick up a HK P2000 to replace your USP Compsct for conceal carry. Or maybe switch to a Glock 19, most popular handgun no doubt about it. I also like the M&P Compact. And of course if you decide to go 45acp, then grab a lightweight commander 1911, Dan Wesson Guardian would be my choice.
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Posted: 5/16/2017 10:44:50 AM EDT
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9mm is plenty adequate, but if stuck with .40 or.45, I would go .45.
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Posted: 5/16/2017 6:13:01 PM EDT
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9, 40, 45, 38 I stock them all...I like choices. But I carry .40 & see no need to change that at this time.
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Posted: 5/16/2017 6:18:03 PM EDT
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Move to 9mm, because it is more beneficial to have more shots and less recoil than it is to have a slightly larger projectile that penetrates to the same depth, and expands to almost the same size in 9mm, 40 and 45.
If i had to pick between 40 and 45, Id go with 40 just because I still get more ammo in a smaller size than 45. |
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Posted: 5/16/2017 6:41:16 PM EDT
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I cant see dumping all calibers for a single one.
remember a few years back when there was little to nothing available on shelves? after that I made sure to diversify. I have pistols and ammo for all the common calibers. 9mm, 40. 45acp. i passed on 380. now i make all my pistol AND rifle ammo on a Dillon 650. but if theres ever a repeat ammo shortage i want to have SOMETHING. so i say dont switch to a caliber, add a caliber. |
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Posted: 5/16/2017 9:01:26 PM EDT
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Stick with the .40! The 45acp is OBSOLETE, because of the .40sw! People who KNOW ballistics, and aren't in love with antiquated SHIT, understand this!
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Posted: 5/16/2017 9:43:02 PM EDT
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Depends on the gun, really.
The HK's are the only polymer framed 40's I've enjoyed shooting. I like 45ACP in single stack steel framed 1911's...full sized, or 4" compacts with the cone style barrels. 40 is nice in metal framed full sized pistols. CZ and Sig are a couple good choices. Whatever works is good. |
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Posted: 5/17/2017 7:27:43 AM EDT
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Think I'm going to give the cz p09 a try. If that doesn't work I'll look for an sp01.
Thanks |
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Posted: 5/17/2017 9:05:11 AM EDT
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The CZ SP01 Tactical in .40 is a great pistol.
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Posted: 5/17/2017 9:47:52 AM EDT
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It's like a lot of people have said .. different calibers, different platforms, different results.
I also so not shoot the .40 well, it's got more snap than my 1911 pistols and I mentally don't like it. A full sized 9mm I shoot well , a compact , not so much. I am learned to shoot my G42, thought finding the aiming point is giving me fits. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 1:23:21 PM EDT
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People don't like it because of the snappy recoil, reduced capacity vs a 9mm. 40 is really popular is in USPSA Limited Major. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 3:41:51 PM EDT
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You indicate that you're thinking about "moving up to .45," why not bypass .45 and move up to 10mm? With full power loads it's much more effective than any 9mm, .40, or .45. Check out Underwood Ammo for full power 10mm rounds. There are so many 10 mm chronograph results on Youtube showing 180 grain bullets at just over 1,000-1,050 ft/sec. Shit, might as well just shoot 185 grain .45 acp at the same or higher velocities (or .40 S&W for that matter). |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:02:00 PM EDT
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It still sucks though. 
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:16:01 PM EDT
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I never much liked the .40. I've owned a couple, but it's been a long time since. I like the .355 projectiles, but the .45 is good as well. If you can't shoot the .40 well, there's your answer.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 11:11:55 PM EDT
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Get a 45 if you want car doors to stop your rounds |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 11:39:08 PM EDT
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^^ Post fail of the week. Let me clarify. From actual shooting on a range that people donated cars to, we found 9mm reliably went through BOTH sides of a car. .45 went through one side reliably. How have your tests gone? |
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Posted: 5/21/2017 2:04:28 AM EDT
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Everybody seems to forget that .40 did something others couldn't do for a good period of time, defeat auto glass and still meet minimum gel penetration in FBI testing. .357Sig was the answer for that. .40 did it with higher sectional density and weight, 357sig did it with speed. there are very few 45 loads on the market now that will do it and most emulate the .40 with 185's near 1000fps. The same "technology" that makes 9mm better will/can/does apply to .40 and back to square one where the number don't lie. Both are fine for defense.
I have all 3 and have carried all three calibers. For day to day, I choose 9mm because of carry weight, capacity and most importantly size of the guns its chambered in for concealed carry. OP, it's you, not the gun. BUT, I understand completely, I shoot certain guns better than others. I moved shit that I couldn't shoot on and filled in the gaps with stuff I could(1911's and Glocks only now, except for revolvers). If it's an accuracy game, I'll take 45 every time. Seems to be inherently more accurate cartridge for many shooters, myself included. If I wasn't so indecisive and could carry larger guns all the time, it's the only pistol cartridge I'd own and carry. I know, contradictory to my above statement, don't care, 45 still gets the job done for me. |
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Posted: 5/21/2017 3:53:40 AM EDT
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Yeah? Let me clarify. From actual shooting on a range that people donated cars to, we found 9mm reliably went through BOTH sides of a car. .45 went through one side reliably. How have your tests gone? |
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Posted: 5/21/2017 9:13:43 AM EDT
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Yeah? Let me clarify. From actual shooting on a range that people donated cars to, we found 9mm reliably went through BOTH sides of a car. .45 went through one side reliably. How have your tests gone? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^ Post fail of the week. Let me clarify. From actual shooting on a range that people donated cars to, we found 9mm reliably went through BOTH sides of a car. .45 went through one side reliably. How have your tests gone? |
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